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New Pictures of Kate Playing With George at Snettisham Park

Monday, April 13, 2015

Good-Morning! We have a really fun surprise today. Kate and George are pictured in this month's New Idea magazine playing at Snettisham Park in Norfolk. Similar to the Bucklebury Farm Park, they have lambs to feed, and "hayrides" that tour visitors past the various deer and animals that live at the park. These photos were found and shared by British Heir Monarchy. I have posted a few of my favorites, but you can see the full album at the Facebook page here.



George looks so much like Pippa to me. I have noticed it before, but the resemblance does not appear to be fading. It is amazing! The article said:
Witnesses tell New Idea that George--without a hint of shyness--made a beeline for the sandpit, drawn by not only the prospect of a toy tractor to ride, but the company of a clutch of girl playmates. 
So, maybe there is a touch of Uncle Harry there, too. :) The piece goes on to discuss how George was quickly the center of attention and that Kate urged him to interact and play with the other children. I imagine that these frequent trips to the farm parks are both for the two to enjoy the animals and activities, but also for George to meet and mingle with other youngsters.  Kate encouraged George to match animal noises. 
"It goes clippety-clop, clippety-clop," she prompted him at the sight of the horse. A beaming George threw back his head and squealed, "Neigh!", and the other children laughed in delight. 
I think he is a little prince who relishes an audience. 



The mystery here is, who took the photos. My initial guess was a long lens, because the quality is relatively good, but Kate and George do not seem aware of the camera. or do not seem to care.



I asked Niraj Tanna, and he said he thinks they are cellphone shots:


If that is the case, it opens up an entirely new question. Who could take so many clear phone snaps, so close to Kate and George and not be waved off by the three PPOs she had in tow, or catch irritated looks from the Duchess? It's a heated (but friendly) debate! It may just be Kate is used to being photographed, and recognizes it is almost inevitable in a situation that this. Maybe it was a child/teen the PPOs left alone? Snettisham Park shared the photos on their Facebook page, which surprised me. Certainly a different response than Bucklebury Farm Park's reaction when a photo surfaced of Kate there...

2014 Visit to Bucklebury Farm Park


Kate stayed warm in a quilted jacket from Barbour, I think. Kate has worn is before, and I think it is an early version of the Quilted Beadnell. It is almost identical to their current Beadnell, although the flaps on the pockets are rounded on Kate's, and squared on contemporary versions. Also, Kate's coat has tabs at the back, but I can't determine tabs on the new version. Most other elements are the same. The coat also comes as a waxed jacket, which is also very similar. If you have more info, definitely weigh in!

It seems she is wearing a gingham blouse under the coat, and of course, she wore her olive Le Chameau boots and put her hair in a pony. Hopefully, we will see George very soon, on his way to visit his new sibling! 

98 comments:

  1. Wow, I can't believe we're seeing photos like this. Usually I love candid photos of Kate, and it's lovely to get a glimpse of what she's like when she's just being a normal mum to George. But I feel super uncomfortable about these. Not that you posted them Jane, just that I feel almost like a stalker looking at them.

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  2. I saw that magazine today at Kmart, passing on my way through the checkout! Maybe I should pay more attention to gossip rags. :) At least the photos were taken in a public place, so not terribly intrusive.
    Obviously I need to stop in at a newsagents/Woolworths/Kmart on the way to work tomorrow!

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  3. Adorable! A real down to earth social experience for him before he's older and at private schools with other highly affluent families. I like how large his "social circle" is. Also, an adorable, typical day out with mum.

    As for the source of the photos, I too am confused. I thought many of us were in agreement that she looked grumpy leaving the Goring recently, because of the photos and it being a private event. I imagine she would be even more annoyed with George being there. And the composition seems too good for a child with a cell phone. My guess (opinion) is a long lens. We've been hearing of George visiting animals at a farm in Norfolk, so I imagine it was a matter of time till paparazzi started scouting out the place.

    I'm truly baffled as to why the farm would post those photos on social media. Even I see to understand being "friends" with the Cambridges means discretion and respecting privacy.

    Amanda, Canada

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  4. Carmen, The NetherlandsApril 13, 2015 at 8:14 AM

    I saw these pictures on Facebook this morning and I loved them, although it feels a tiny bit like invating her privacy.
    By the way, I totally agree with you about George's looks. If Pippa and Harry had a boy together he would definitely look like Georgie!

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  5. I'd say that's more of a flannel shirt, maybe a third layer above a T-top of some kind (coming from a cold climate, layering is a natural!)

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  6. In one of the pictures another kid looks directly at the camera/phone that took the pictures, which seems to indicate that the person who took those pictures was perfectly visible, and quite close. Maybe Kate didn't mind that one person (as opposed to dozens of papparazzis) wanted to photograph her. Maybe they did it discreetly and respectfully, and she just let them... When was that? They both look frozen, and her belly doesn't look too huge?

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    1. I definitely see your point, I'm just really confused based on how Kate and William normally act in these situations, and how protective they have been of exposing George. I'm thinking even if Kate decided it was not worth the battle, she had PPOs to do the "dirty work" is stopping the intrusion. I also think Kate would have dealt with an unhappy daddy back home, when William would find out. Unless this is them turning a new leaf and realizing they need to be more open to the public with George, I struggle with thinking Kate was OK with it all. I like hearing the different perspective though.

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  7. Upon further study of the photos, I still can't guess with certainty. It seems like they were being followed, which I think the PPOs really should have picked up on. So they were there long enough to be followed by a long lens, or more than one long lens photog were working together. That's my main theory.

    Another theory is this was somewhat staged. I think it is highly unlikely, but it is possible. Or Kate decided it was best to play along and ignore them. Which also seems unlikely based on how her and William handle unwanted photos without George present.

    Amanda, Canada

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  8. I daresay if the photographer got too close--unless it was a child, the PPO's would have prevented them from taking the pictures. Just possible they were prepared to allow these just before the birth of new baby.
    Delighted they are giving him the chance of some normality and mixing with other children.
    Cheered up rather a chilly Monday morning.
    Thanks Jane.

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    1. Maaggie;

      So true - these are PR photos.

      This photo op was planned to give the impression and justify km upcoming lengthy year long maternity leave and her PR reason ' spending more time with children' (from duties), in spite of nannies staff and Royal Protocol for the parents not bond as much with royal heirs/children (separate line nannies/staff) to allow Prince William/km to continue royal duties.

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    2. Why would Kate have pictures taken and give/sell them to a random Australian magazine? Wouldn't it make more sense to release photos officially to the media if she needed PR?

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    3. I did not suggest that these were PR photos, just that Catherine decided not to object.

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    4. I do feel it is PR; the photos are shared on a royal site.

      Isn't it a bit risky for km to be lifting Prince George in her current state - yes, she is small, and the farm trip may not have been as recent ...

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    5. Anon 12:16PM

      I couldn't agree more! That was my first thought too.

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    6. Anon 5:33pm, Royal Monarchy Heir, who first posted the pics, is a fan site not the official one.

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  9. Sorry, me again. Can I also point out that we're possibly getting a better look at Kate's "scrunchie" that caused an uproar when they headed home from Mystique? In photos you can see something else going on at her ponytail. It kind of looks like a claw type clip right above where the elastic band is. Thoughts?

    Amanda, Canada

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    1. Haaaa, I remember this imbroglio. I am relieved to see that is not simply a scrunchie though what it is escapes me. It almost looks like some kind of braided string held together with the claw clip, which would be a new one on me and something that could become a trend!

      Where these photos came from seems to be also a mystery. Some of them look like cell phone shots and some look like long lens shots so I'm baffled.

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  10. Sonja from BavariaApril 13, 2015 at 10:00 AM

    I'm sorry, I just wrote a comment about these pictures under your last post before noticing this one - ignore it ;)

    The photos are adoeable (especially zhe last picture of george ib the hay), I hope that we aill get to see Georgee more often...
    I'm looking forward to seeing him at the christening of his younger sister or brother ^^

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  11. These are paparazzi photos to me, plain and simple. Maybe paparazzi pretending to be civilians. Now I feel sick to my stomach. I wish I didn't see them. I hope some others here feel the same way because even if they are sweet photos, we know in return it means George will probably not go back to this farm again. Jane I love your blog but I think we have to be extra careful with George. A normal, happy childhood is what we all want for him.

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    1. I think Jane has addressed this before, and there are those of us who believe the Cambridge's should understand a lot of this comes with the territory. Personally, I can count on one hand how many times I feel the Cambridge's have had a true invasion of privacy with cameras. If this truly bothered you it may be best if when you see a blog heading referencing George you avoid it altogether or look at the first photo or two and decide if you want to continue :-)

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    2. I will definitely do that anon. To me it doesn't matter if they're famous. A baby deserves space to grow no matter who he is and I don't like what is happening here. I cannot imagine William or Kate wanting this either. My heart says it is wrong.

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    3. Unfortunately, is a 'normal childhood' possible for George? Apparently, when William was barely more than a toddler, he was saying things like 'When I am King, I will do (this or that)'I am interested in the Royal Family, but there are so many questions about it......

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    4. To the original anon: George is not normal. If his parents wanted him to lead a "normal" life, they would leave the monarchy.

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    5. Oh I had to chuckle Anon 9.56 😉
      I hereby leave the Royal Family! I'm just normal old Williy now and i demand that no further photographs are taken henceforth.....
      I don't think William could "leave" the family anymore than I could become A Princess of the United Kingdom 😄

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    6. Simone, perhaps a definition of terms might help to clarify LL 9:42 and anon 9:56 statements. What is "normal?"
      What is "average?" Who started using the word "normal" and expressions such as "just like us?" I think you would
      agree that terms, so-called facts thrown around by the Cambridge's detractors are often spoon- fed to readers
      of the tabloid press-which the readers later sometimes regurgitate onto blogs. Excuse the grossness.The lack of fairness and logic used in criticising is gross to me.

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  12. I think it is unrealistic IF William and Kate expect to never be photographed with George at a pubic place. This is not at all like the situation where they were photographed at Viscount Linley's private property in France. I understand they don't want to be stalked but when in public....well, it is just different. I do think we have a real desire to see candid snapshots because it shows then engaging in real life. Perhaps if they had a photocall a couple of times a year, that would help satisfy the demand to see them with George.

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  13. Regarding these photos, I think that both George and Kate realized that they were being taken, but what was Kate to do? Ruin the day out for George by kicking up a fuss? Or ignore it, as best she could, and carry on? (Ditto, the PPOs.) Had anyone kicked up a fuss, or if Kate had whisked George away, the only thing George might have learned was to dislike photographers for spoiling his fun. Or maybe, like his father, he would have begun to develop something akin to paranoia when it comes to the press.

    If George is to go anywhere or see anything other kids take for granted, isn't it better to ignore the occasional photographer? Although I do think it was quite wrong of the Park owners to post these on their website, without Kate and Williams permission, as it smacks of using Kate and George as an advertisement.

    There is plenty of time for George to learn all about the press; right now, he needs to learn how to socialize with other kids his age. IMO, the latter is far more important if he is to grow up well-rounded.

    JC

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    1. JC, I agree that we may be seeing an important and early lesson here (for George) in how to react to and tolerate photographers. K&G were in a public setting and, with most people having camera phones these days, it's to be expected. If George had been playing in their private garden and a photographer was hiding behind the bushes, that would be a very different scenario. As long as it's not excessively intrusive, this does come with the territory.

      I also believe that if W&K released photos more frequently, the value of photos such as this wouldn't be quite as high.

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    2. Royalfan, I was hoping you might agree with my take. And I agree with yours; it wouldn't hurt if W&K released more photos, altho I am wholeheartedly against official photocells for any child under the age of five. (And, in passing, I do think the Swedish Royal Family have got it wrong; IMO, they have over-exposed Princess Estelle. Other European monarchies, including the British, are far more careful of their children, as far as I can tell.)

      In that vein, it might be best not to bring under-two George to the Lindo Wing in order to meet his new sibling. It seems healthier, all-round, for George, to be introduced to his new SISTER/brother privately, at home, without having to run the gauntlet of the collective press. I can wait for William and Kate to release photos of their two children when they feel the time is right.

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    3. JC, I don't disagree with you on George (re: an appearance at the hospital); it may be too much for him to deal with. And something tells me that William will make the call. (I don't mean it in a bad way; I haven't walked in his shoes.)

      Regarding Estelle, I guess we differ there JC. :) I believe she is getting the training to deal with the reality that lies ahead. She appears to be a very happy, well adjusted child...and she takes it in her stride. All key ingredients IMO. And if we did see a paparazzi photo of her, I suspect it wouldn't be worth as much. Just my opinion.

      In comparison, I find it odd that Lady Louise accompanies her parents to church (and even that took a while), but her brother does not. Perhaps E&S don't want to risk it just yet, but it does seem a bit excessive. And how do you explain this to two siblings?

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    4. And I believe that Estelle is being brainwashed. A child should have a strong sense of self before being trained in Kingship/Queenship...but no need to explore the issue here.

      Regarding Louise and James, everything about these two strikes me as weird, or rather, their parents treatment of the two does. Everything from waiting so long to correct Louise's eyesight to dressing her as if she was fixed in amber as a five-year-old to the delayed appearance of James. Bloody odd.

      JC

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    5. L&J...In **my** opinion, Sophie enjoys a very close relationship with the Queen and the children are being raised in a very old fashioned manner for this reason.

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  14. I think those pics were taken in February. It's 20 degrees celcius in north Europe this week. Maybe it was set up by PR.I dont know, it's not a big deal and it's so cute.

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  15. I think George looks exactly like William, but with Kate's eyes : ) .

    And I agree, these shots make me a little uncomfortable too. I hope they knew they were being photographed but didn't mind for whatever reason and that these weren't just an invasion of privacy.

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    1. I suppose these shots bring home the fact that a lot of women would not want to be in Kate's position; to have their children subjected to this level of intrusion. Hence, so many women whom the Prince may have been interested in did not want to be his future wife.......

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  16. The photo taker may have been indeed very close. These days it's hard to tell if people are telling pictures or just checking their phones (reading the news, blogs, social media, etc), so it would have been difficult for the body guards to accuse said person of being taking photos of them unless they actually could have a peek into his phone discretely - which would distract them from their duties. Or maybe they thought it was best to leave the person, to not make a fuss, so that the rest of the people in the park didn't discover who Kate and George were and didn't harrass them. If anyone around them had a mild suspicion that was Kate and George, muscly men telling of someone for taking pictures would totally confirm any suspicions and I can only imagine the fuss that would create around them! (although in one of the pics there's 2 little girls giggling, so maybe everyone knew they were there). Besides, these are their new neighbors, so they may not want to be aggressive (yet) hoping for a good neighborly relationship.

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  17. Here in holland,WA & MAX don,t mind if the public snaps a picture of the children IF you don,t sell them to the tabloids!
    Further is there the media code which states that if papparazzi takes pictures on a non official moment,they are banned from the yearly photomoments, maybe an idea for Kate and William?
    greetings,
    Esther

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    1. I agree with your thoughts, based on what happens with your Monarchy. I think W&K need to start embracing the idea of sporadic photo calls throughout the year (not just on tour). Frederick & Mary are also really good about the photo calls. I think part of the problem with W&K is how much they shelter George. He is a baby/toddler and should have as much normalcy as possible during the formative years (to result in a balanced adulthood), but living in KP and Anmer aren't normal anyway ;-)

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    2. I agree more photo calls - otherwise P George becomes irrelevant and the public loss of interest. P George is curious and confident - ' if' he is to become heir, then he need to meet/ be seen by the people - not only on foreign trips.

      By now P G should have had a public greeting with the people before a sibling. Toddler William had a 'meet the press' moment with P Charles & Di at K Palace, and in similar jumpsuit..

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    3. oh but it is rare that we see the princesses maybe 3 a 4 times a year!
      They are very sheltered from the public,unlike the scandinavian royal children, so fun to see and hear them much more often then the dutch royal children
      esther

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  18. I know it's hard for us to believe but some people actually have no interest in the Royal Family and subsequently have no idea who they are...!!

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  19. The shots are odd. They do look like a long lens was used. Not sure how the photographer would have been set up to take shots unless the park had been informed ahead of time and someone spilled the beans to a mag? Or it was an accidental sighting and the photographer headed for a good spot and pulled out his camera.I guess it could be a phone using the close up lens on the phone. They and all the kids just do not look like they have any awareness of a camera. The Facebook page indicates the shots were taken a week ago.

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    1. A week ago? No way! It's spring everybody!

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    2. Also, there is no way she is nine months pregnant in these photos.

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    3. She looks nine months pregnant to me but the I have no idea on the date, that was jut what the Facebook page that was linked in this blog stated. Who knows though,she has so many layers on hard to tell.

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  20. So so cute... He looks just like William.

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  21. I agree with JC above. I also believe there is a difference between paparazzi and general members of the public. I would think William would be upset about people making money off of pictures of his children, but not so much about his grandmother's subjects (and someday his subjects) doing their thing and coming across Kate and George in the park and taking a few pics. W&K want George to lead as normal a life as possible. To do that, he has to be out and about with other kids. There are people with phones out there. I'm sure they don't want to instill a fear or hatred of cell phones into their kids, so best to distinguish between paparazzi and random members of the public. At least -- not knowing absolutely anything at all about what W&K think, I would hope it was something along these lines. In any event, its lovely to see them having fun at the park.

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    1. Thanks Jane. You and Royalfan seem to have explained and expanded upon my post in a most congenial fashion.

      JC

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  22. The pictures from the multiple photo-ops the Duke and Duchess have given us this past year- in NZ in a play group; the adorable Bilby zoo photos; the Mother's Day KP window family picture; the precious birthday butterfly photos; and who can
    forget the December photos of Prince George sitting on the steps.-were lovely and greatly appreciated.
    It is still nice to see George and his Mum doing what little ones ideally do with their parents-learn and have fun.
    I can imagine Catherine's saying to her son, who is not very enthusiastically feeding a piglet, "Georgie (as she reportedly
    called him) perhaps you can feed the new baby like this." The expression on his face gives us an idea of his opinion of
    THAT.
    My opinion: these photos were allowed, but not necessarily encouraged. I hope the family can have some peace in their
    new neighborhood in the future.





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  23. Very interesting! William & Kate will, I think, have a difficult time trying to stop non-UK publications from publishing photos taken in private family moments like this.....There's a great appetite to see photos of George as we see him so little, except, it seems, in snatched photos like this.

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  24. I don't know...people may disagree, but I think William should be doing more 'official' duties/involvement in projects etc. (he's not young now) .....to help his grandmother, if nothing else. It does appear that he is a somewhat reluctant future heir.

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    1. I completely agree. It will be interesting to see what he's like when he becomes the Prince of Wales.

      Rebecca

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    2. I believe the Prince of Wales is happy for William to pursue another occupation whilst he remains second in line.
      Over the last few months he has done quite a few things preparing him for the future, but Prince Charles has been preparing since he was three. He has never had much choice---there was even a committee to decide on his education and whom he should marry- the only one not consulted was Charles himself.
      He wants better for his sons and I for one am glad.

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    3. As the Queen knows, there is no retirement from her "job". With Charles still waiting to be king, I don't see anything wrong with W&K being given the opportunity to concentrate on their young family. It's an arrangement that works for *everyone* at this point in time. ;)

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  25. I disagree Liz although I understand your point of view. I believe that the Queen and Charles are very happen with William staying just a little under the radar for a while. Charles is having a hard enough time trying to convince everyone that he is next, will be next, and has every right to take his turn. I don't think William is reluctant at all. When his time comes I have no doubt that he will step up and be a wonderful monarch. And when Charles becomes King, I believe W and K will support him completely. But I don't think he has any wish to wait around like his father did. As long as he's third, I understand his wanting to have a job and a fairly normal life.

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  26. I disagree Liz although I understand your point of view. I believe that the Queen and Charles are very happen with William staying just a little under the radar for a while. Charles is having a hard enough time trying to convince everyone that he is next, will be next, and has every right to take his turn. I don't think William is reluctant at all. When his time comes I have no doubt that he will step up and be a wonderful monarch. And when Charles becomes King, I believe W and K will support him completely. But I don't think he has any wish to wait around like his father did. As long as he's third, I understand his wanting to have a job and a fairly normal life.

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  27. I saw on Twitter that the Cambridges gave the green light for the release of these pics if the $ went to charity. Any other word on the street about this? I don't know the source who said this so I'm skeptical at the moment.

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  28. I appreciate your points, ladies, but in the UK, the 'Republican' movement is gathering momentum.......I think some people feel that William wants all the privileges of being a member of the Royal Family, but does not want to be, at this stage, anywhere near anything resembling a 'full-time royal'. It's interesting to see it all develop. I agree that Charles is controversial (in many ways), but does seem to be quite an intellectual and a cultured man. His knowledge of the arts, including music, painting, architecture, and literature (I think) is outstanding. There has been criticism of William and Kate in the British press that they are 'Mrs & Mrs Ordinary'. (and part of the 'celebrity' culture, the journalist cited the fact that they had a 'meet & greet' session with Beyoncé and her husband at the baseball) As I say, I am watching it all with fascination, and listening to opinions etc.

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    1. I think it is very different, if you are actually British and how you view the royal family vs. as an outsider. As Americans, we can look at the cute baby and clothes, while not taking any of the responsibility for them, if you're British, it is a different story. I can appreciate your different view. I would have those same concerns if I was British too.

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    2. Liz, London, I hope that the "republican" movement doesn't win out. I am not sure this movement understands the impact that not having the Monarchy would cost the UK. Visiting London, or other areas would certainly loose the appeal it has with all the trappings they bring to a vacation. A living history so to speak. Sometimes I wonder if William is also preparing for the possibility that the republican movement might win out?

      I have always felt William would step up when the time comes or he would do whatever the Queen wants. I think William is in a difficult position because no matter what - he is only second in line - not next in line. Like his father has had to figure out what role to play while waiting 60+ years, William also has fit into a waiting pattern with no defined role. I feel the Queen is definitely one who wants to see things done "properly" as far a succession goes and will not do any thing to advocate William taking on roles that would undermine Charles.

      Out of curiosity Liz, what do the British people want him to do? The last pole I read said over 50+% want Charles to be next. I sometimes think that the naysayers are the loudest and the silent majority are not heard from.

      Anyway Liz, London, always appreciate hearing from the British public - Thanks

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    3. As you subtly pointed out, "Republican" refers to a political party, especially in the US; whereas the
      word referring to the anti-monarchy movement is "republican"- no capital R. Your knowing this made me
      think you were British. Many Americans are not aware of this distinction.
      You must get to England fairly often-something about the King's College organ?

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    4. Eva B: Well, I think people expect William to participate in a few more royal duties here in the UK, (championing worthy causes and so on) than just the odd overseas tour. The renovations to their Kensington Palace apartments & Amner Hall came to millions.

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    5. A number of British women just like to see what Kate is wearing, that is her chief attraction for them.

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    6. Eva B., I responded to your comment, but it must have been deleted, for some reason. I hesitate to ofter my
      opinion again.I do agree whole-heartedly with you.

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    7. Anoun 7:24pm. I did not delete it! If it isn't here, it didn't come through to me!

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    8. Liz, what if Will is not able to do the additional engagements because of other members of the royal family already slated to these slots. Those more senior to him. It must be a delicate balancing act for him when there are so many "older" royals in the ranks and being supported by the Queen.

      Anon 5:33PM - yes, I spend as much time as I can across the pond. I also watch as much English TV as possible and read when I can. An anglophile at heart!!!

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    9. Ah! The mysteries of blogging. My comment showed up.
      By the way, I checked out "A Cup of Joe." I hope I got that right. A fun smorgasbord of a site.
      Thank-you for recommending it.

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    10. Eva B: there is plenty of work that William can do here in the UK: championing good causes, getting involved in projects to help the vulnerable, lonely, poor, aged, disabled, terminally ill, long-term unemployed, disaffected youth, homeless etc. (the 'dispossessed') (there is a LOT of deprivation in the UK) setting up new initiatives like his grandfather & father have done (The Duke of Edinburgh's Award Scheme & The Prince's Trust that helps many disadvantaged young people and awards grants for new business start ups)

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    11. A close friend of mine has recently joined 'Republic' and attended one of their meetings in London. Taken from Wikipedia: 'Republic is a British republican pressure group advocating the replacement of the United Kingdom's monarchy with an elected head of state.
      It is a member organisation of Common Cause and the Alliance of European Republican Movements and is currently the only organisation solely campaigning for a republican constitution for Britain'.

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    12. I love reading about the Royal Family, always have, and have collected books/DVDs about Diana & Kate. But, France abolished their monarchy some years ago, and maybe we should too at some distant stage.....it's not necessary healthy to retain every relic from the past......we need a 'fairer', and more 'equal' society in England, (having a royal family runs against this tenet, to some extent) the Scottish Assembly have tried to create this in Scotland but they are not independent of all UK legislation. I am NOT saying that abolishing the monarchy will achieve this, but lately the vulnerable, disabled and unemployed have had their benefits severely reduced by the government/sanctions imposed etc......it's been extremely nasty. Families are living in temporary accommodation, (of one room only) there's no stability in their children's lives. Poverty may well affect their development/life chances.

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    13. LL- Of course you are correct. There is a great deal to be done.I assume you put in 10-20 hours a week volunteering yourself.
      He may be helping. Just because something is
      not on the evening news or doesn't get written up in a tabloid, it isn't happening? You wrote a
      thoughtful, earnest description of some of the problems. However, members of the royal family can't just decide
      they want to go volunteer for something. We, hoewever can. There are complicated schedules and planning involved in
      everything a senior member of the RF does. Not the least of which, the scheduling of PPOs to accompany him. With efforts to bring
      down the monarchy that you describe, including the "British republican pressure group," some may see the RF
      as targets.Also, imagine the outcry over "tax-payer funded" expenses for private activities. William is volunteering
      40 hours a week as it is.He is donating his salary to charity. Plus RF duties-investitures, ceremonies etc.
      demand his time.I am curious when and how you expect Prince William to do more?

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    14. Of course William is able to volunteer, (for instance, he has pledged to give his air ambulance salary to charity, therefore is 'volunteering' in the job) as he is completely funded by the Duchy of Cornwell etc. It is completely irrelevant whether or not I volunteer & how many hours I volunteer per week, I am a private citizen, not a member of the royal family, am not being funded by the Duchy of Cornwell and do not live in a renovated 20 (?) room apartment at Kensington Palace with 24 hour security all funded by the public purse. It's not particularly useful if William 'helps' without drawing attention as to what he is actually doing, the publicity that royal involvement generates is always very beneficial. There is plenty that he can do. He could get involved in charity fundraising events, give public recognition to charitable works undertaken by individuals/organizations in the UK/start his own original charity project/initiative like the Prince's Trust. As I have written before, there are SO many people experiencing struggle in their lives here in the UK. There MUST be some philanthropic work that he could do. You have written 'members of the royal family can't just decide
      they want to go volunteer for something. We, however can. There are complicated schedules and planning involved in
      everything a senior member of the RF does. Not the least of which, the scheduling of PPOs to accompany him'. You have actually implied here that there is therefore no point in the Royal Family doing any public duties at all!!!! (due to 'complicated schedules and planning and PPO to accompany') Hence, you have scored an 'own goal', as if the royal family do not conduct any public duties, their role/function will be extremely limited.

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    15. Eva B: I don't understand your point as to whether William is able to undertake more engagements as there might 'already be members of the royal family allocated to the slots'. William can choose to conduct whatever royal engagements he wants to do, for instance, if he wants to visit a charity headquarters, a hospital, school, community project, etc. he can. Not every organisation already has a royal patron!

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    16. Anoun; you write, 'With efforts to bring down the monarchy that you describe, including the "British republican pressure group," some may see the RF as targets'. But, the royal family are, unfortunately, at risk generally from individuals/groups/terrorism etc. These threats are not new. Someone tried to kidnap Princess Anne many years ago, and blank shots were fired at the Queen, which greatly alarmed the horse that she was riding. In addition, an intruder broke into her bedroom etc. They live with the security risk every day of their lives.

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    17. LL- please note: my question was not WHAT- you have cited and re-cited the whats ( are you not aware of the
      Duke and Duchess of Cambridge and Prince Harry Foundadtion? which is a time-consuming board that
      combines the administration of the numerous charities with which William is involved)...
      My question was WHEN and HOW?
      The need for PPOs is either a necessary, expected expense as you now imply, or a needless tax-payer expense.
      Yes, the royal family will continue to perform their roles, and yes they will need protection. I certainly did not
      imply they should do nothing because of the need for security.. You have inferred it, perhaps.
      There are those who criticise the use of tax-payer funded PPOs at the same time criticising them for not doing
      more activities -that would require them. Can't have it both ways.
      As citizens and caring indivuals, do we not need to contribute to the well-being of our communities? Or is that
      only the responsibility of the royal family? I think it does indeed matter whether one contributes, whether he
      lives in palace or council housing.
      As for the Duchy of Cornwall and Kensington Palace reno references...that is part of an old, tired republican
      argument that is useful to throw in when there is nothing else to say. First, one has to understand the concept of
      inherited wealth. If you are living in a house your deceased parents once owned, the principle is the same:just a
      difference in scale.

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    18. Apologies, I repeatedly wrote 'Cornwell' instead of 'Cornwall'!
      I don't really agree, ALL William's expenses are being met, and if one is living in a house that one's parents owned, one still has to pay council tax, utility bills, food expenses, clothing, insurance, possible service charges, fuel/transport expenses etc. etc. The Kensington Palace/Duchy of Cornwall argument is, I believe, relevant. The Duchy of Cornwall's wealth is ENORMOUS. I don't think William has established his OWN charity. 'Tusk' (for example) was not set up by him.
      The idea that as many of us as possible should volunteer in our communities was set out by David Cameron, with his 'Big Society': many thought that it was a tactic to allow the government to cut funding to various projects/services etc. Again, you imply that we should all try and volunteer, but my personal position is irrelevant to my argument about what William should contribute. I don't need to reveal my own position here, for many reasons.

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    19. Re. William: Britain expects.......

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    20. We seem to be coming at this subject from opposite sides and most likely will never agree.Thank-you, Liz, for
      the interesting discussion and thank-you, Jane , for allowing it.

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    21. Yes, many thanks Anoun & Jane! I do actually think that William is in a slightly awkward position regarding what his current 'royal role' should be, as he is 2nd in line to the throne. Maybe the fact that he HAS spent time doing a 'normal' job with colleagues, (also non-military colleagues) will stand him in good stead, in being able to cope with his increased responsibilities in later years and in his ability to relate to people. I think that he does need some 'normality' in his life.

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    22. Very gracious response, Liz. And excellent point that William's daily contact as a non-military employee with others of
      various backgrounds will hopefully help prepare him for future responsibilities, whatever they may be. I can see
      that living with the frustration with the upper class and privileges associated with the monarchy amidst so
      much need can be daunting. That's not quite the word I want. It is an extremely complicated situation.

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    23. Anoun: I've really enjoyed the debate, you have challenged me! (but in a good way!) I DID think that William ought to somehow 'do more to reflect his position', but I think to spend the majority his time 'meeting and greeting' (which seems to be a feature of most royal engagements) could be a rather superficial existence, people will just respond to him due to his 'position', there will be 'forelock tugging' etc. (I though he could establish some project or other but unsure exactly what. A 'youth project' is the obvious choice, but Charles has already done this. By the way, I am not too keen on the way that Charles fundraises, wealthy people are encouraged by his aides to donate to his Trust and are seated next to him at dinner for this purpose etc. and are rewarded for their donation by being invited to Highgrove for dinner) I believe that, at the present time, William wants more 'reality' in his life than this. Charles has tried to get involved and 'have a say' in British (political) matters (re. the black spider memos) and that has been controversial.....we will probably be able to read a number of these memos soon.....Do you mind my asking if you are British and are currently living in the UK?
      We all recognise that one of Diana's talents was that she was 'down to earth', and that gave her a great affinity with people, this was also said to apply to the Queen Mother, so William's 'proper' job will help to develop this.

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  29. It's such a difficult balancing act regarding the amount of media 'exposure' that George is subjected to. If he is not seen at all, (or barely seen, except in the rare official photo) what is the point of the UK investing millions in maintaining the Family at the expense of the public purse? However, I agree that if he is over-exposed to the media, it could affect his 'normal' development. It does make one wonder if it is sustainable, though I follow Kate avidly! I am just trying to get a sense of perspective! Things have changed, so much is expected of the Royal Family, everything they say/do/wear is raked over endlessly, wherever they go in their private lives, most people have a camera 'phone and can sell pictures to non-UK magazines.

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  30. Kate's shirt is plaid not gingham. Might even be a plaid flannel, but I can't tell. Would be acceptable with the rest of her outfit though.

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  31. Hi Jane - I know this is a bit off the current thread..but are you planning on doing a poll for Kate's pregnancy outfits? I'm curious to see how others see her fashion the second time around - which IMO was much, much better than the first go - I enjoy reading your blog as always!

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  32. that's not true . monarchy has a approval rating of around 70 to 80% for the monarchy it's only on the royal forums that people are more crtical of them then on the street so to speak

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    1. Maybe the queen, but not the royal family. Those rates are way too high.

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  33. On British Monarchy Heir's facebook page (the fansite not the official one) where they first posted the pictures, someone commented that they were at the park on the same day as Catherine and George and that it was Monday, March 30.
    https://www.facebook.com/The.British.Monarchy.Heir/photos/a.487819428037532.1073741949.134249850061160/487861178033357/?type=3&theater

    Also Snettisham Park's facebook page has since taken down the link to the pictures.

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    1. Hahah, I am sorry, but whoever posted those photos on their page has got to be in trouble. It was so not...cool. :)P.S. Thanks for the date, that is awesome!

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  34. Hi Jane. Totally off topic, but your tweet earlier makes me want to ask if you think there might be hope for rekindling for Harry and Chelsea. The more kids Will and Kate have the further Harry slips down the pecking order. I like to think he and Chelsea might get together again now that Harry has a chance to live a life less exposed so to speak. I'd like to think so.

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    1. Yes, I was sad to see them break up, Harry seemed so happy with Chelsy.

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  35. Kate is wearing same jacket and boots in the picture of your " follow us on facebook" banner in the left of this blog Jane.

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  36. It does look identical. Do not know how long ago the "follow us" photo was taken. But good eye. If it is several years ago then good for Kate, I love my clothes that I can wear for over 20 years frankly I think a well made heavy coat should last for at least 100 years, and I have sweaters from Aunts that still look great 50 years on.

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    1. Hi there! Yes, it is the same coat! I uploaded details on Kate's Clothes (http://www.katesclothes.com/outfit/beach-walk-william-lupo/) William and Kate walking the beach in early 201.

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  37. I was at the park that day (march 30) and can verify that these were not paparazzi pictures nor was it a staged photo op. When Catherine noticed photos were being taken the person got a stern look. I cannot understand where the magazine got the information that there were 3 protection officers as I only saw 1 with them.

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