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Royal Baby Watch: Kate's Maternity-Wear by the Month

Friday, April 17, 2015

This was a much different pregnancy from Kate's first. Although she got off to a bumpier start, once the Duchess cleared the worst of the HG, I think she was far more comfortable with the routine. Although the Royal Baby has yet to make his or her appearance, I suspect we will find she scheduled engagements closer to her due date this go around. I thought about doing a review of her maternity wear, but then I felt it would be more fun to look at her pregnancies next to each other. So, while we all are embroiled in the Great Kate Wait 2, let's look at the two side-by-side.

Month 1: November (George) and August (HRH #2)
Nada. Kate didn't actually announce until her hospitalization forced her to in December. Similarly, it was only her HG that pushed the royals to tell the world about Royal Baby 2 when Kate had to miss a scheduled appearance in early September. 

Month 2: December/September
Due to her hospital stay, we did get one appearance from the Duchess in December of 2012, as she was pictured leaving Edward VII with William by her side. 



Happily, Kate was not hospitalized in this second pregnancy, although she was carefully monitored by her doctors at home. Unhappily, her second bout with HG was longer and harder than the first, and we did not see her at all in September. 

Month 3: January/George & October/HRH#2

When pregnant with George, Kate made only one, partially-public, appearance in her third month. She visited the National Portrait Gallery for the unveiling of her first official portrait. With this second pregnancy, she re-emerged in October for a slew of public engagements beginning with the State Visit from Singapore, her appearance at the Natural History Museum (below), and the pink carpet for Action on Addiction. 



Month 4: February/George & November/HRH#2

Possibly the greater period of rest played in Kate's favor, because in her second pregnancy, she undertook far more engagements in her fourth month, than she did the first time. With George, Kate was only out once, but with HRH#2, she had at least 6 public appearances. 


Month 5: March/George & December/HRH#2

Interestingly, Kate travelled out of Britain in both her 5th months. While pregnant with Prince George, she flew to Switzerland for a wedding, and with this little Royal Baby, she flew all the way to New York, USA! 


Month 6: April/George & January/HRH#2

Maybe the arrival of spring helped during the first pregnancy, because Kate undertook more engagements in April 2013, as she saw the light at the end of the tunnel. January is usually a lighter month for the royals, and sometimes we do not even see Kate, so relatively speaking, her calendar was full in January 2014, before she slipped away for the Middletons' annual holiday in Mustique. 



Month 7: May/George & February/HRH#2

Month 7 was very light for both pregnancies. Kate only made a single (public) appearance in May of 2012, pictured, and three in February of 2015.



Month 8: June/George & March HRH#2

Her final month before withdrawing from the public to prepare for the arrival, the 8th month was light on engagements in 2013, but packed in March of 2014. Again, it seemed Kate was far more comfortable this time. Also, there was a lot more to prepare when pregnant with George.  Now, the nursery is ready, the Moses basket has already been bought, and she has a nanny. It is probably less hectic Chez Cambridge. We saw most recycles in the 8th month, including the Hobbs Dalmatian Macintosh!



Month 9: July/George & April/HRH#2

Kate disappeared after the 2013 Trooping and was not seen until she appeared on the steps of the Lindo Wing holding George--over a month since her previous appearance. Presently, the Royal Baby Watch is in full swing, as the barriers went up outside the Lindo Wing several days ago. The next time we see Kate, she'll be holding a new prince or princess. 




Not to wander down a side-street, but were you all surprised by the pieces Kate chose to recycle? She had a number of options from her first pregnancy, and we even saw her recycle within the second pregnancy closet! Several readers have asked we do a poll, but in keeping with the angle of this post, I would like to know which ensemble was your favorite, but also, which piece you would have liked to have seen get a Royal Recycle. Since we are considering everything form both pregnancies, I am not going to add them here. If you want to review, pop over to Kate's Clothes Browse page, click the maternity button, and then click filter. Once you know what you like, tweet me at @HRHKateBlog, email me at princesskateblog@gmail.com, or leave a comment. I will tally it all up after the weekend, so you have some time to think! 

Kate's Clothes Filter Option

Last item...what will Kate name the baby! I don't know. I thought that she would have a girl the first time around, and I was 100% certain the name would be Alexandra. My thinking was that Kate is very traditional, but she has an edgy, modern side, too. I think Alexandra covers both bases! I know some of you have mentioned that George's middle name is Alexander, and this does make me think Alexandra is less likely. Nevertheless, I have not ruled it out. The bookies are often right--they predicted George--and I think Alice is a very real possibility. I wondered about Mary, because I think that Mary of Teck was such a cool queen, but George and Mary would be a little too Downton Abbey-ish, no? I can't decide about Elizabeth. I could make an argument either way, but if I were forced to choose, I would have to bet against Elizabeth. I feel like somewhere, maybe not the first name, we will get a nod to the Middleton side of the family. Charlotte is both a regal name, and Pippa's middle name. Giving a girl Frances as a middle name could be a nod to both Diana and to Michael Middleton, but it might be a little too old-fashioned. I don't know. I think Kate has a generous selection of beautiful, traditional family names that could serve as a tribute to both sides. Frankly, that strengthens the argument for Elizabeth. I would love Victoria... This is becoming a stream consciousness. :) What do you think?! We haven't even considered a boy, and many think it will be a boy, but I will opine on that on Monday Funday. 

Looking forward to your votes coming in! Happy weekend! 

97 comments:

  1. Jenny Packham for both! I loved the navy dress in NYC. I thought it looked amazing as a maternity gown. I also really like the pale pink JP coat and dress from Kate's first pregnancy (worn to the 60th anniversary service). I was really hoping she'd wear that again!

    I've thought Elizabeth for a girl all along, although I've wavered recently because everyone thinks Alice! I also wondered if maybe they wouldn't choose Elizabeth this time (but might have if George had been a girl) because Elizabeth is so closely associated with the sovereign? But I still come back to this - if the Queen were my grandmother in law, I'd name my daughter Elizabeth!

    Amy

    Ps: the new website is great!

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    1. Faith from MassachusettsApril 17, 2015 at 4:29 PM

      As far as the clothes go, you said exactly what I wanted to say Amy. The second wearing of the Jenny Packham gown was spectacular , and I too was disappointed that we didn't get to see the champagne lace JP again. It was an elegant look.

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    2. Yankee from CaliforniaApril 17, 2015 at 5:40 PM

      Amy and Faith, I agree with both of you. She looked amazing the second time she wore the JP gown. Those earrings...

      I agree with Jane, Alexandra! And I would love it if Rose and Diana were in there, too! If I'm wrong about this one being a girl, then maybe Richard Philip Francis.

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    3. I was amazed that she was able to fit into the navy Jenny Packham gown when pregnant, as she wasn't pregnant when she wore it before.

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    4. I know Liz! I think she looked better in it the second time with her slightly fuller figure. She was too thin at the first wearing and the dress didn't drape as beautifully.

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  2. I would love to see Victoria or Elizabeth or Charlotte. I am not fond of the name Alice for some reason. But I'm sure whatever name they settle on will be lovely. I do hope it's a girl!

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  3. I've never thought (first pregnancy or this one) that Elizabeth would be on the table for a first name. We had hundreds or years between Elizabeth I and Elizabeth II, and they have both become 2 of the most renowned monarchs in British history. Giving a royal child in direct line to the throne the name Elizabeth so soon after Elizabeth II would be asking rather a lot of that child, legacy wise. As a middle name, I think it's highly likely. But not as a given name. It's my understanding that if the child grew up to be monarch, she could style herself Queen Elizabeth III if she wanted to, whether it was her name or not. But I can't see Will and Kate naming a daughter Elizabeth as her first name.
    My 2 cents on Elizabeth. Worth about that much. ;)
    Very entertaining and informative post, Jane! I've given up due date or gender speculations for the moment...just enjoying the wait!
    -Tess

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    1. Great point, Tess. People have talked about Diana being a potential "burden" for a child because of the association/expectations, but Elizabeth would be quite a name to live up to as well.

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  4. Hi Jane!
    First of all, congrats for your new website which I love!
    As per the entry about Kate's wardrobe, I loved the outfit she wore for the events in Kensington (the "Natasha" Misty Blue Maternity Coat from SĂ©raphine). It was so classy and feminine.
    I hope she's having a girl (and my bet has always been cast on Alexandra, even when she was pregnant with Chubby Cheeks and we didn't know the sex).

    Gaia

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  5. Thanks, Jane, this is another lovely and interesting post - you are so creative in how you choose rather "ordinary" subjects (Kate´s maternity clothes choices in review are all over the internet) and make them into something really interesting to read !! Really enjoyed it! It makes the "Great Kate Wait 2" much more fun!

    Personally, I would really love the baby to be a girl and born on the 21st of April!! I guess that would make her HM´s favourite, right? ;-)))) Then name her Elizabeth, skip lovely Prince George in the line of succession (we´re modern, so why not let him decide that his little sister is much better suited for the job as he prefers to chase the ladies?!! haha! ;-))) ) and have another great "Elizabethan era", right? Ok, I admit, my "feminist streak" was getting the better of me here, but a little bit of fun makes the waiting a lot easier, don´t you think so? ;-)))
    Lots of love from Germany and have a lovely weekend!!

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  6. My top fave maternity looks are: The Jenny Packham Half and Half Dress, the McQueen Lupin, McQueen Custom Pink, The Hobbs Dalmation, Emelia Wickstead Marella Coat, Tara Jarman, Emelia Wickstead Blue Maternity Dress, I wish she had recycled any of those last three! But I LOVED the second time she wore the Hobbs and the McQueen pink, though the first time were winners, she upped her game the second time with those. (oh just saw that amazing McQueen Bell Sleeve green gown! Wow!) :)

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  7. Good idea to approach from the activities viewpoint, Jane, rather than the pregnancy wardrobe angle. It has been done.
    Per poll: my favorite first baby-the gray wrap dress;the second, the black Seraphina.So many great looks. So difficult to choose, but those two stand out for me.
    Name-I could make an argument for David. I believe there are only fond memories left by now. He abdicated as Edward VIII
    and the Queen named her youngest son Edward. I think naming the baby David would be a sweet remembrance.
    Besides,I like the idea of two brothers named Dave and George having adventures together. I can't envision a little Princess
    for some reason. However, the name Mathilda-great precedent there- comes to mind. My favorite would be Margaret.
    Another nod to the Queen, without using the name Elizabeth. It brings back such a sad memory of heart-break and
    shatterered dreams, but it would also add new life and happy memories.As far as I know, Princess Margaret Rose has not
    been remembered this way yet. I may be wrong.

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    1. "Sincere flattery," I guess, Jane. My Margaret comments were right out of the title of your last post. Sorry.

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    2. Faith from MassachusettsApril 17, 2015 at 5:02 PM

      Viscount Linley's daughter's name is Margarita.

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    3. Thank-you, Faith. I had not thought of that. I'm sure it is in her honor and very appropriately so.

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    4. I like it. I think it's a nice variation of Margaret.

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  8. I think Diana Elizabeth (for HM and the Queen Mother) would be a wonderful tribute. She could be called Beth.

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    1. Or 'Buffy', which was the nickname for the Queen Mother!

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  9. I think my favorite maternity piece Kate has worn would have to be the Naomi dress by Madderson. It looked sleek and sophisticated, but the trim and placement of the pockets added interest. It was a lot more fun to look at (so to speak) than the many solid color coats she wore so frequently. I would really like to have seen the grey Max Mara wrap dress recycled, as it was so flattering the first time around, but overall I much prefer her second pregnancy wardrobe to her first.

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  10. Fantastic, well-written post as always. Interesting that you say that the second bout of HG lasted longer than the first time, but not sure if you are just including the very brief appearance she made when leaving the hospital, also the fleeting appearance at the Sports Personality awards, and the unveiling of the portrait. I think that Kate made more appearances overall during this second pregnancy as she knew what to expect/how she would feel/how she would cope during public engagements etc. It was not unknown territory as before, she was more confident and more prepared, mentally & physically. I think that this was a greater contributory reason re. her undertaking a higher number of engagements during her second pregnancy than her first, not so much that her time was taken during her first pregnancy purchasing furniture/equipment etc.

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  11. I DID think that, if a girl, the new baby might be called 'Elizabeth'. Then I believe I read somewhere that the royal family do not tend to 'duplicate' names if the 'nameholder' (sorry, too tired to search for/think of a better word!) is still alive. (I don't know if this is accurate, haven't researched it) Elizabeth II was named after her mother, but she was not expected to inherit the throne when she was born.

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  12. I honestly thought their first born would be a girl. (It was my 'gut instinct', and I might be wrong, but I believe a lot of people thought that it would be a girl) But, I was proven to be wrong. Now, it seems that the bookies favourite is that the new baby will be a girl. But, we could all be wrong again and it may well be a boy!

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  13. It was incredible last time that the 'odds on' were of a boy being called 'George'. And it proved to be true!

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  14. So many boys names are already 'taken' by members of the current/extended royal family, if the new baby is a boy. Curious, that the favourite is 'Alice', I wonder how that came about? Someone was supposed to have placed a £500 wager on it some time ago......

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  15. A woman called 'Alice' wrote an article begging Kate NOT to call the new baby 'Alice' if a girl, as she had been mocked as a child and called A -'lice' etc.

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  16. Faith from MassachusettsApril 17, 2015 at 4:58 PM

    I really don't think we are going to see Alexandra, Charlotte or Elizabeth as first names. I think Alice, Mary, Victoria or Eleanor are strong first name contenders. Amelia has been used by the BRF before, so that could be a possibility too. I think the second name will probably be Elizabeth while I
    wouldn't be surprised if Diana shows up in the third
    spot. For a boy the choices are more sparse. I really don' t think the first name will be James, Michael, Charles, Philip or John. They could use Arthur, Albert or Frederick. If they use Leopold, he could be called Prince Leo which is a little bit cool. A second or third name is even more difficult. William ? Philip? So exciting! I can't wait!

    I thought I would like the maternity clothes she wore this pregnancy better than the last but I don't. The first time around was lighter and brighter, and I don't remember anything not fitting her well except for the Erdem. In retrospect, the clothes she wore during her current pregnancy were , for the most part dark,
    bulky and ordinary looking. There were some standouts for me like the two JP gowns and both Seraphine coats but in general, I was disappointed. I am looking forward to what she will be wearing when she leaves the Lindo Wing.

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    1. I agree with your remarks on the two pregnancy wardrobes; I also thought Kate wore too many dark colours this time and that some were quite ill-fitting. My three favourite new-to-this-pregnancy clothing items were all coats: the light blue Madderson, the cerise Mulberry, and the light blue Seraphine.

      When it comes to names, I have previously stated my preferences for a girl (either Carolline or Alice, for a first name, followed by Elizabeth Frances, and I haven't changed my mind. For a boy, nothing would please me more than James for a first name just because I happen to like it and I think it goes well with George; however, William has a cousin and Kate a brother by that name, and both are alive and well. Thus, it might not pass the Queens sniff test, and as unfair as I find it, she has the last word. So, I have decided to settle for David, patron saint of Wales, I believe. David William Francis or Fairfax; Francis is Mike Middleton's middle name and Frances was Diana's. The name Fairfax is apparently found in both William and Kate's family trees; their common ancestor on the Spencer and Middleton sides. Again, I have to wonder whether the Queen would approve of either David or Fairfax.

      Still hoping for a girl, and the sooner the better!

      JC

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    2. I totally agree about dark, more "ordinary" tone of second pregnancy. (Although she looked amazing anyway.) I can only think that she is trying dress more maturely, and draw less attention as befits a mother of two royal children, but my personal opinion is that she has the rest of her life to dress maturely and I wish she'd keep it lighter and a bit younger for a while. But she is perfection, no matter what she does. :)

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    3. Think it may have reflected a different season. Winter clothes tend to be darker than a spring/summer wardrobe.
      We certainly saw a lot more clothing to choose from this pregnancy.

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    4. Yes, Eva, I think the difference in the season had a little to do with the darker wardrobe but it doesn't excuse the ill fitting and uninteresting garments. I felt like she lost interest in what she was wearing and as long as it was suitable, that's all she cared about. I hope Diane isn't right that this is how Kate thinks she should dress now.

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  17. Wonderful Jane: sorry to ask, but I would really like to see photos of all Kate's outfits during her second pregnancy! Personally, I don't need to see the designer details/date worn/engagement details etc. accompanying these...would just like a sort of photo montage of the outfits!

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    1. WhatKateWore posted quite a large collage of Kate's second pregnancy wardrobe.
      http://whatkatewore.com/2015/04/02/your-definitive-guide-to-kates-maternity-wardrobe-by-the-numbers-and-in-photos/#more-31747

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    2. Iris: thanks.

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  18. My favorite maternity look was the brown Catherine Walker coat she chose for St Patrick's Day. I thought it was so elegant and sophisticated, and the cut was beyond flattering on her. And my second favorite was the Navy Chiara coat she wore to St Paul's Cathedral. And each look was paired with hats I loved.

    Names? Whatever they name the baby, I have no doubt that the same thought will go into choosing them. (I expect three names, once again.)

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  19. Hi Jane, Thanks so much for the comparison picks throughout the pregnancy -- what a great idea. I kept thinking over these past months that she looked slimmer this time around and I think these pictures confirm my suspicions. Not sure if this is indicative of sex (I have never given birth and at 43, never plan to) or just that she gained less weight this time around.

    On the weight issue -- here's a funny story (or rather sad, really) -- When they first announced pregnancy #2, I had planned to finally get in shape and lose my excess pounds. I figured I could get this done by the time HRH gets back to her pre-baby weight after giving birth to Baby Cambridge #2 (hey, I have more than 50lbs to lose, ok? It'll take time!). I thought I could get to my goal weight just as Kate got back to hers. Well, I haven't lost an ounce. The best laid plans, huh? What never ceases to amaze me about her is her dedication to health and her self control. I just don't have it!

    Finally, the name.....well, I really really really like Charlotte Mary Elizabeth. However, Jane, you just put a damper on that by advising that it's Pippa's middle name! Argh, all the good names are taken, it seems. I suppose the most popular with the gamblers is Alice so perhaps Alice Mary Elizabeth? But Alice is such an old-fashioned name, I think.... Oh well, please let it be a girl, pretty please!

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    1. Lovely post, Lynn.

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  20. Great post! I am betting on Charlotte for a girl...

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  21. Sorry, my mistake--the light blue Williamson, not Madderson.

    JC

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  22. If they have a girl, I will be highly shocked if somewhere in the names there isn't a nod to Diana. I am not expecting it as a first name, but somewhere. I think Spencer would even be pretty.

    On the idea that she hasn't gained as much as before. One royal columnist interviewed a doctor and his opinion was that she has gained the same, but is carrying the baby differently. This time her hips have expanded and are wider, while before her hips were narrower and she was carrying more out front. I can see this in some of the pictures.

    George is simply the cutest and I can only imagine the second one will be too.

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  23. Caroline Diana Elizabeth

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    1. Beautiful! Gets all my votes and I have not heard anyone else propose this one before!! Perfect.

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    2. Very unlikely, I think. And there is already a European Princess Caroline of Monaco. I don't think they will include Diana's name, either, though I could be wrong; William 'recycled' her engagement ring.

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  24. Agree. I think she actually might be truly a bit heavier but with a bit less water weight. She is plenty healthy looking through both pregnancies. You just do not need that much weight gain to carry the average 8 pound baby who is not 8 pounds till the last month. 20 extra pounds by the end of nine months just does not look like that much, so much of what we think of as weight gain is water retention and that really varies from woman to woman, I had very little water weight and so my face looked OK through all my pregnancies along with my ankles. I gained about 25 pounds, and am on 5'4 but Catherine at 5'8 should only gain about 25 also and she will look even thinner than I did. The extra weight will be about the same no matter what the size of the woman is. You have 10 for the kid and 10 to 15 for water and fluid and nourishment gains, all by the end of 9 months, no matter what your starting size is.

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  25. I love this post Jane. What a great take on Kate's maternity fashions. I actually preferred her second pregnancy closet. The pregnancies covered different seasons but even so I liked the second one better. I just found most of her outfits the first time a little short. She always looks nice, but I just found her second set a little more elegant. As for repeats, I loved the pink Alexander McQueen coat. And my faves for the second pregnancy are the cerise Mulberry and the Chiara Trapeze Beulah.

    For names, that's tough. I like all the choices others mention here. For me, I had names for both of mine but then changed my mind when I met my sons. But if I had to pick now, I'd hope for a girl and call her Alexandra Mary Elizabeth. For a boy, Phillip David Arthur.

    Maybe we'll know by Monday!

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  26. Thank you for that nice post, a great idea!
    For me, i bet on Victoria for a girl and Robert for a boy. Alice is ok.
    And about maternity clothes, too bad she didn't wore the Tara Jarmon peach coat.
    French Bises 😘 (two in Bretagne )
    Aurore

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  27. I loved the yellow dress/coat she wore at the garden party. Bright and cheerful!
    As for the names, I do like Alice (even if it is a popular vote) or Rose... Or David. I wish they added a Phillip there as well.

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  28. Just had to chime in, again, after reading posts re THE NAME. Some like Victoria; not only is it fusty, not only is it the name of a current Swedish Crown Princess, not only has it been overused by many European Royal Families, but it represents a long-ago, not-very-bright English-Germanic BRF queen whose only claims to fame rest in her good fortune in choosing a decent husband, much brighter than she, her longevity, and altho given the pathetic state of genetic know-how, she is not to blame, the fact that she managed to spread, via her daughters, hemophilia thruout European Royal Families, which played a major part in the fall of the Romanovs.

    I think I might need smelling salts if W&K were pressured into choosing this name, should they be fortunate enuf to have a daughter, this go round.

    As for the Albert/Alfred/ Arthur crowd, all are fusty. But Arthur, in particular, bothers me; can you imagine the teasing this kid might be subjected to? And Albert, shortened to Alfie, is a ditto. I do have to admit that past holders of Albert, Queen Victorias husband and the current Queens father, in particular, were very decent men, as male members of the BRF go--if they did cheat on their wives, they were discrete and did not humiliate their wives, publicly or privately. Makes a nice change from the current Prince Phillip and Charles, which is why I would hate to see either of these two latter names perpetuated.

    JMO.

    JC

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    1. Arthur is quite popular amongst the British middle/upper classes now, and is actually the name of David Cameron's son.

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    2. Perhaps so, but none of them are stuck with the word Prince in front of Arthur.

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    3. Names are so subjective! There will never be a concensus. I think most of the available royal family names would be considererd old fashioned JC. Imo even George is in that category. For me though, once prince or princess is in front of that name, it's sprinkled with a bit of fairy dust, so to speak.

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  29. I read that Harry wants to do something big to commemorate the 20th anniversary of Diana's death. I wonder if this is true and what it will be.

    Tessa

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    1. I hope so, Tessa. I really do. Where did you read about it, by the way? :)

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    2. LOL I didn't want to reveal for fear that some would kick dirt at me!:) It was the Daily Mail. But it did sound legit. They were talking about what Harry wanted to do with his future and that was one of his goals. I think it is true. I remember him saying in an interview a few years ago that he thinks about his Mom "everyday". I thought that was so sweet.

      I was in my late teens when she died and really it was like, for many in my generation and older, JFK dying or John Lennon. You remember where you were when you heard it and everyone was stunned. I am not a big royal fan, but I was a Diana fan and you just want her children to be OK.

      Fingers crossed that it is a girl and somewhere in her name, they honor Diana.

      Tessa

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    3. How does that relate to pregnancy dresses of Catherine per month? Imke

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    4. Thank you, Tessa. I understand your opinion of "the DM" :) but I tend to believe this one. And if I am not mistaken, it was the pre-Diana concert interview where Harry made the comment about missing and thinking about his mother everyday.

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  30. Must say this was a lovely idea, loved the comparisons. Regarding a name I have thought all of the above names are predictable, so how about Grace, wouldn't be the first princess grace but I think it would be regal

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    1. A good idea, it's the middle name of my 3 year old niece!

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  31. Not that I am a fan of the name Alice but I am becoming rather fond of HRH Princess Alice Elizabeth Spencer of Cambridge.... all bases covered :-) so says an American cousin across the pond..... for a a little Prince ... I am in favor of Phillip Charles Spencer.... again... bases covered...

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    1. Is Spencer a first name? Imke

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    2. Spencer was Diana'a family name. It seems many think using Diana and Frances are perhaps to...close? So I thought the use of the family name might be an idea. The Spencer name is very old and aristocratic.. very blue blood and while may be a bit 'modern'..... it is as I said a very very old name. JMHO

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    3. To close? To close to what, Diana? If that's what you mean..... This is her son, he loved his mother. I don't get when people think that W&H don't want to "offend" the RF with references or honoring Diana. Ha! I'm sure that is the last thing on their minds. They don't blame her, they love and miss her. Whose ring is Kate wearing?

      I think one reason W&H keep a distance from other members of the family is because of how they treated Diana. With their Dad, that is harder to do. He is the only parent they have left. I'm sure they have mixed emotions constantly, especially with Camilla there. The night before the wedding, Camilla didn't joined William, Harry, and Charles for dinner. Their office reported that she wanted to give them privacy and a dinner alone. It was a very special moment and I thought that spoke volumes. She did the right thing, but my point is she is not as welcome as everyone thinks. I think W&H tolerate her because they just want their Dad to be happy and he left them no choice.

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    4. Anon 12:08, I totally agree with the view you shared in your second paragraph. And of course William loved and misses his mother, but he (more so than Kate) may avoid the name Diana because of the Queen and Charles. Should he worry? NO. But it may be a question of diplomacy within the firm given the "tolerant" climate you describes.

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    5. P.S. Trust me....you will hear me cheering if they DO use the name. :)

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    6. Hi royalfan,

      I just have to respectfully disagree, 100%. Diplomacy? This is his Mom. Think about your own families... He doesn't blame Diana for the divorce, he knows all she suffered.... To say that he won't honor Diana by naming a grandchild after her also strongly implies that Diana did something wrong. I do not believe her children think that at all. So, IMO, thinking that he doesn't want to offend someone so he won't honor his Mom, that would never cross his mind, never. I'm sure he thinks if anyone doesn't like it, they can take a flying..... Every time Kate's ring is flashed, people are reminded of Diana. This was important to William, to involve his Mom even though she wasn't here.

      I have read many books about the RF. On Diana's last vacation, when she died, several sources have said that she talked with William everyday, several times a day. In fact on her last day, William was upset about the palace and Charles wanting him to do a photo call at the start of school and he didn't want to. Diana was going to tell the palace that he didn't want to do it when she got home. They were very close.

      I think Camilla keeps her own home because when Charles dies, guess where she won't be welcome?

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    7. Anon 5:38, we agree so much more than disagree here. Really... :)

      I don't know whether William (and Kate) would or wouldn't honor Diana by naming a daughter after her. (As I stated, I would cheer if they do because, IMO, the firm has done more than enough to sweep her memory under the rug.) But if not, I don't see it as William implying that Diana did anything wrong. I believe W&H are well aware of her experience within the royal family, and I certainly have my doubts about how warm and fuzzy their relationship with Camilla is. She was non-negotiable in Charles' life and, unfortunately, in theirs by default.

      But the bottom line (IMO of course) is that while they may not agree with everything their father did or did not do when he was married to Diana, I believe they love him. AND, like so many children of divorced parents, they must feel torn at times. Not in their love for their parents, but in how their own decisions/actions will impact them. Consider this.... can you imagine a baby "Princess Diana" in the headlines on an almost daily basis while Charles continues to promote Camilla as the next queen? My bottle of champagne is on standby, but I'm not confident that it will happen.

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    8. Good grief I did not mean to start any issues. Frankly I am hoping they will pay homage to Diana. You assume ..unfairly that I meant something inflammatory with the word 'close'. I was a huge Diana follower. No one would be more thrilled than I with a Princess Diana. Everyone can speculate as to what W&H feel and think.. makes the masses feel as if they know them.... we do not. We want to believe we do and react according to our own wishes if how WE think they should feel or act. Human nature. Above all itis clear of the love the boys have and had for their Mother and she them. But in my humble opinion.. based on what I think.. William will be King.. honor ..dignity... family ..duty... reigns foremost when trying not to upset the cart. I am sure privately he has opinions... but he also respecte the family... again.
      . My thoughts. I tossed out Spencer as ... recognizing a very old more blue blood family than the RF.... and would add a modern twist. My apologies for fluffing feathers. In future will keep my thoughts to myself. Thought we were discussing clothes and names....NOT rehashing old news or hard feelings ... wish we could stop with the rehash everytime Diana is mentioned. She deserves more than to be remembered for what was... or what wad said ... almost 20 yrs gone now.

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    9. Interesting thread going on here. I'm in agreement with Anon that if William wants to include Diana's name in his daughter's he will do it regardless of what others think. I don't think it's as far fetched as some posters think but I don't think it would be the first name. I was really pleasantly surprised to see Diana's ring on Kate when the engagement was announced. I really didn't think that was going to happen , so I wouldn't be at all surprised if William included Diana in his child's name.

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    10. I don't think they would use it as a first name, the child deserves its own identity. And it might not even be Diana, could be her middle name, or Spencer. If having a grandchild named after Diana bothered Charles, then the ring would upset him too. It is talked about and photographed everyday.

      I am a child of divorce and I don't think that is how W&H are conflicted. And as horrible as this sounds, I think Charles feels that it really doesn't matter how they honor Diana, she is never coming back, he has the boys to himself, and Camilla will be queen. :( Can't get much better for him, can it? Although now he does have to share with the Middletons, which, as we hear, he hates doing. LOL

      The spirit of Diana lives on in Carole Middleton. When she wore a Catherine Walker for the wedding, I clapped! and she looked great too!

      We'll have a toast together if it does. Did you see the poll today? The majority of Americans want a girl baby named after Diana. I thought that was very sweet.

      Anon 5:38

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    11. Anon 5:38, I was thrilled that William gave Kate his mother's ring. And I *thought* I heard someone else clapping on the morning of the wedding. :)

      My fingers are crossed for a future toast! :)

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    12. I find this thread interesting. You all have valid points and they aren't far off each other, just expressed differently. Personally, for me, I think William will pass on Diana and leave it for Harry to use. Kate gets the ring, Harry gets the name. That may sound cold and calculated, but William and Harry have always been very close - and they seem to be drifting apart a little these days with William's focus on family and Harry trying to find his own way and to find his own love. So I think there is an agreement that Harry gets Diana's name. And if there isn't such an agreement, there should be. JMO.

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    13. I don't think that's cold or calculating at all. It really just sounds like sharing. Although I think they could both use a name that honored Diana, maybe a different one for each child. Spencer could go both boy and girl.

      I don't agree about the drifting apart. I think we just see the distance, but I think besides Kate and George (and H's wife and any more kids)' W&H will always be the closet people each other has. They have bonds and experiences that no one else has shared. I do think Harry is in flux right now in his life, not sure what to do, but everyone experiences that. Maybe that is causing anxiety and distance.

      I was happy to see Kate's brother playing football with Harry at Christmas. I hope he spent a lot of the holiday with William and the Middletons, I'm sure he did.

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    14. Oh, I'm sorry if I gave the impression I think they are becoming a little estranged. I don't mean that at all. I think it is a natural progression for siblings to move on a little when they start families. I have two boys exactly the same ages as William and Harry (same years!), and although they have always been close and always will be, they have different focuses these days and simply don't see each other as much. In my case, both are married and neither as kids yet, but they have careers and a family focus, so they just don't get together as much. When they do, it's great, but it isn't just the two of them anymore. So, I too hope that Harry spends a lot of quality time at the Anmer Hall bolthole from time to time, but it still won't be quite the same. And you're right, they could both honour Diana in different ways as far as names go, but I just wouldn't be surprised if the name "Diana" goes to Harry. (No guarantee he'll have a girl though :)).

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    15. I didn't mean that you meant they were estranged. It is so hard to leave comments and get your whole point across, isn't it? :) I just meant they have so much holding them together and being in their positions is like being in a family business, which will help too.

      You are right, "Diana" should go to Harry, William could use another name. I had forgotten (until someone on one of the posts mentioned it) that Harry had the ring and gave it to William for Kate, which was very generous of him.

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    16. Nothing cold and calculating about it, Jane. :) It makes perfect sense and I thank you for bringing it up. With Harry being single, I think a lot of speculation/assumptions is/are focused on William.

      I believe W&H will always be close, but their lives are on different paths right now. And I'm pretty sure Harry is one heck of an uncle to George. He's such a natural with children!

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  32. Oh please not Alice :D I really don't like the name, and find it zero regal... despite the past royal Alices.

    I bet it will be a girl with a name starting with a C, like mommy.

    Camilla

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    1. Alice would be a heavy inheritance given that her great great granny was considered being mentally sick. Prince Philip s mother. Imke

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    2. LOL,
      I like that "zero regal". If something is awful and we hate it, we'll just say it is zero regal!

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    3. Imke, Prince Philip's mother was a lot more than a mentally sick women. Besides, she isn't the only Alice in the BRF.

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  33. I am hoping for a pretty outfit for the baby reveal. I know others don't agree, but I hated the last one - blah! And I held my breathe with those shoes! I was afraid she would fall! You are not feeling the best after giving birth, and the steps, and holding the baby..... It was a concern!:)

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    1. She did NOT look like not feeling the best. I am sure she knew what she was doing.

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    2. She had just given birth the day before, you are in pain and not feeling the best, on those shoes, with the stairs, I was concerned. With a baby, it is always better safe than sorry.

      And yes, I hated the dress. It was bespoke, made just for the reveal. Looked like a sack made by the local sewing lady.

      No need to get upset, everyone is entitled to their opinion.... Or aren't we?

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    3. My thoughts on the shoes...she would not have worn them unless she felt secure and comfortable in doing so. And the dress was not intended to be a fashion statement I believe it was a respectful nod to Diana, the grandmother who was not there to share in their joy.

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    4. I know it was a nod to Diana, which was lovely, but the style was hideous. It was bespoke, so clearly a lot of thought was put into it, but with very poor results, I think. I know they did a matching one in pink too... So, if this time it is a girl, will Kate wear the pink one? I wonder.

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    5. Well, then I guess we should agree to disagree. :) I don't think it was hideous. It was a loose fitting summer dress and the thought behind it will not be lost in the history books.

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    6. I thought her *reveal dress* really was hideous; hopefully, this time round, Kate will have the good sense to wear a coat (the time of year would allow for this, and with any luck she still has two or three which would serve the purpose). Re the shoes, I thought they looked comfortable and safe, though lacking in style.

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  34. I would have loved to see this again:http://www.katesclothes.com/outfit/wedding-anniversary-visit-tara-jarmon/

    Love, Imke

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  35. Jane,

    This is off topic but do you have any idea why it seems like the Duchess hasn't re-worn any of the dresses from the North American tour? Obviously recently she's been pregnant, but those outfits seem to have vanished and they're not all Issa dresses or anything.

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    1. Anon, I think Kate sells some of her clothes in order to provide her with money for new clothes. The Prince of Wales, who is financially responsible for the working clothes of William, Kate, and Harry, seems to prefer to spend his 20 million GBPs, per annum, on himself and his wife. Just check out William and Harrys wardrobe, on tour, then check out Charles and Camilla's for visual proof.

      JC

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    2. If you want to get really upset, Google Camilla's jewelry. The woman is loaded with sets of jewelry gifted to her, seems that Charles really gets a kick out of it.

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  36. Sonja from BavariaApril 19, 2015 at 3:27 PM

    Great post, as always! The idea of comparing the outfits by the month/stage of her pregnancy is really sweet.

    During this pregnancy, she wore so many great outfits such as the baby blue SĂ©raphine coat or black lace DVF evening gown. But I have to admit that somehow, I preferred the looks of her first pregnancy (perhaps because it was in spring and summer and I love those cute and fresh dresses - and the bright colours!)

    I liked most of her recycles (especially the pale pink McQueen coat). But I would have loved to see the yellow Emilia Wickstead and the blue Malene Birger coat (even though this isn't 'real' maternity wear) again! Well, maybe she will have a 3rd baby so she might wear them once more?

    As a name for a girl, I still prefer Victoria or Mary... I think that it's likely that the second name will be Elizabeth (just as the Queen, carole elizabeth, catherine elizabeth).
    But for a boy? Hm... i would like Francis (Michaels second name and the male version of Dianas second name).

    I think the baby won't be born before the weekend - it's just a feeling, I don't know why...

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  37. Hi Jane. LOVE the new Kate's Clothes! Congratulations on its success. Off topic question: This piece starts with Will and Kate leaving the hospital as HG set in with George. Could Kate have been wearing that shirt of William's--that he's wearing as they leave the hospital back then--during her recent play day with George at Snettisham Farm? Maybe borrowing William's shirt in the last weeks of this pregnancy?

    Thanks as always for your fabulous work. I love what you do! Katherine USA

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    1. You have a very good eye! Yes, it does look like William's shirt. :)

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    2. I had thought of a different combination of names. Ya'll see if you like this. Catherine Dianna Elizabeth. And they could call the baby Princess Cathy! Is that too cutesy?

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    3. Very clever to identify William's shirt on Kate, amazing, what an eye!!

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    4. Will they give a daughter the same first name as Kate, though (Catherine, I mean)

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  38. George seems to have a LOT of hair now, from that back view on him in the photo published in the newspaper shown here.

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  39. Thanks for sharing these pictures, Jane. Surely Kate has great sense of maternity fashion and she looks amazingly beautiful.

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