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Kate and Family Leave for Anmer Hall

Wednesday, May 6, 2015

Welcome back! Happy Wednesday, tomorrow is Thursday, which is basically Friday... So essentially we are knocking on the weekend's door. If that doesn't cheer you, yesterday, the Queen made a half hour visit to Kensington Palce to meet her new great-granddaughter, Princess Charlotte! The pictures of her leaving show her absolutely beaming, so I think she must have really enjoyed meeting little Miss Charlotte. (Actually, this is her arriving, but...she has a look of eager anticipation, yes?)


Is anyone else still getting used to the whole Princess Charlotte thing? I saw a headline last night, and I thought, wow! We have been calling her "RoyalBaby" for 9 months and at last, she is here and has a name. this removing I saw another article talking non-chalentaly about Princess Charlotte and I hesitated for a moment and though...who? I love it. I love adding things. New projects, new blogs, new people. The more, truly is the merrier.



As has been anticipated for several days, William and Kate left for Anmer Hall today. They were photographed pulling out in the black Range Rover, closely followed by the car carrying their PPOs. Unlike when William drove Kate and George to Bucklebury after the prince's birth, Kate sat in the front this time. After all, it would have been a bit of a squeeze in the back, wedged between Prince George and Princess Charlotte. 



Kate was wearing a creamy top, that Ashley speculates is actually Kate's JoJo coat, and a summer-weight scarf. Kate accessorized with a Beulah scarf and her Annoushka pearl drops, which she just wore on Saturday when presenting Charlotte at the Lindo Wing.



The couple are expected to spend the summer at Anmer Hall where Kate will focus on her young children, soaking up the early days with Princess Charlotte, and giving Prince George lots of attention as he acclimates to sharing the limelight. Which he is already beginning to relish...



So, what is next? Not a lot. June is Trooping the Colour and the Order of the Garter, I expect Kate to make an appearance at least at the first, and I sincerely hope the second as well. These are big dates in the Royal Calendar. We also have some major historical commemorations this summer, including the Battle of Waterloo (Sorry France, I love you SO much anyway) and the signing of the Magna Carta,  (a celebration for all modern democracies) so I think we could see Kate joining other senior royals for some of those events. KP has announced, very definitively, that Kate is taking the summer off to focus on her family, which I think is great! We will still see plenty of Kate, and honestly, the royals take most of the summer off anyway. The Palace likes to be really fatalistic over this stuff so that nobody can accuse them later of shirking or backing out. Better to say, "you can kiss Kate's gorgeous face goodbye for the next three months!" and then have her make some surprise events, to the public's delight, than to say, "Oh, she'll be around for sure!" and have people complaining when they don't see as much as they would like. So...stay calm, and carry on.



Some are already asking of this is it for Kate. Back in the Kate Middleton days, it was said that she told friends she wanted a large family. Recently, her Uncle Gary said he thought Kate would have more, and I hope he is right. I have 5 brothers and sisters--yes, you read that correctly. Five. Three brothers and two sisters. We are all well-adjusted, well-educated, happy and healthy. We have a great time together. The thing about a big family is that you really have a mix of personalities. I have five, diverse best friends, each of whom brings something unique to the table.  If I say so myself, we are hilarious, and when we all get together, it is a massive riot. Different styles play off of each other, and we really have a ball. I hope Kate has at least another child, and wouldn't frown if she had more. Life is a beautiful gift and when you give love, it can only enrich you more, in a currency nothing can take from you.



Ok, all y'all, I am flying to Charlotte, NC today. Someone over there must have had some serious foresight to name a whole town after the first daughter of the Duchess of Cambridge, which is obviously now the case. Well done, North Carolina. You are massively cool this week. :) 

72 comments:

  1. Lovely post! Thanks for keeping this blog! It's a treat to read it!

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  2. Thanks for the coverage Jane. I know what you mean about large families. There are 4 girls in my family and we are all very different, so getting together is a raucously good time. Sadly, of the 4 of us, there are only 3 nieces and nephews, 2 of them mine! So two sisters without children.
    I am going to miss Kate engagements, but I am thrilled that they have the wherewithal to be able to take this important time with their young family out of the public eye. I’m sure William is thrilled to have a job that he loves, close to his family, and time to ease into his royal role. I understand the wish to be at Anmer. Living in London is no life – none of the Royals really live in London full time. None of the seniors anyway. Yes, Kensington Palace is big and beautiful and recently renovated, but I’m sure it could feel like a prison in no time. They will live there when they need to. Right now they don’t.
    Charles has been waiting a very long time to fulfill his destiny and it can’t have been easy for him. I have my reservations about Charles, but he has been second in line to the throne since he was – what? – 5?? Unable to take a job of his own, unable to make plans, having everything he does play out in the press like living in a fish bowl. Yes, he had privilege that most can never enjoy, but I’m certain that Charles of all people, supports William’s decision to get on with his life as normally as possible until he can’t any longer. That day will come, even the Queen can’t live forever, and once she’s gone, William’s life becomes something else. He knows that and I have no doubt he will embrace it. But in the meantime, his priority is and should be his family. Good for him!
    Enjoy your summer Cambridge family. See you on the flip side!

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    1. What a lovely post, Jane. :)

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    2. I never get tired of seeing the "hug" photo.Or the red dress and perky red hat one. Or George in his Dad's arms,
      waving rather tentatively at the crowd...you sure know how to pick 'em, Jane. I know they don't come cheap. So-
      sponsor away!

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  3. Sonja from BavariaMay 6, 2015 at 3:09 PM

    I hope that they'll enjoy a beautiful and relaxed summer at Anmer Hall. How long do we have to wait until they publish the first offical pictures? 1 month? 2 months? I hope that George will also be in the pictures (or that there'll be a cute one such as princess estelle of sweden sitting begind and kind of holding her cousin princess leonore)

    I really hope that Kate will attend at least one important event - even though I can understand that she just wants to spend time with her children and not make any official appearances that soon...

    Well, I'm not sure if they'll have a 3rd baby, but I hope so. I only have a younger sister, but I'm really close with all my cousins, we meet once a week so that's a bit like we're all siblings and it's great :)

    Enjoy yourself in North carolina!

    P.S. I absolutely love Kate in that red McQueen dress!

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    1. I hope they release a photo or two within the next couple of weeks. And I wonder if Michael Middleton will take them...

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    2. Sonja from BavariaMay 7, 2015 at 7:47 AM

      I think youre right, it's likely that Kate's dad will take them again... they didn't hire a professional photographer for george (the next heir to the throne, the future king), so I assume they won't hire one for his younger sibling...


      I read somewhere that Kate and William will possibly undertake a royal tour in the carribean in the spring of 2016... (And, that they'll probably take George & Charlotte with them - just like in New Zealand and Australia)
      Could these rumors be true? What do you think?

      IMO, it would be so great to see George and Charlotte on a royal tour! (Even if it might be more stressful for the Cambridges and the nanny...) I hope that it's true :)

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  4. Here's wishing them a lovely, relaxing summer in their new country home! I'm secretly hoping they take at trip to Balmoral at some point. Little George in a kilt would be the cutest thing!

    I'm curious how many children they want. I know before they had George they were telling members of the public who inquired that they wanted 2 children. Then once she became pregnant with Charlotte, the headlines all said they were planning on 3 children within 5 years.

    Considering Prince Charles is obviously in favor of a pared-down monarchy and having more than 2 children is looked down upon by a lot of people (or is that just in New England?), I'm wondering what they'll do.

    Would the British public be incensed if they had more children, as they "live off taxpayer money" (the famous retort to everything a royal does!)?

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    1. I'm curious about this too, Am, thanks for bringing it up!

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    2. Faith from MassachusettsMay 6, 2015 at 4:34 PM

      They really shouldn't be incensed Am. These babies pump so much revenue back into the British economy.

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    3. Oh I completely agree with you! The monarchy and their estates are huge cash cows. I just always see that comment, often multiples times, in response to any UK newspaper article about the royals.

      They should definitely do what's best for them!

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    4. I am a British taxpayer and know very well that they receive no money from the taxpayer.
      George III first handed over the Crown estates in return for the Civil list which was set at the beginning of every reign. As HM has reigned for so long it had to be changed and so for the last couple of years she has received 15% of the income which last year was just over £230 of which HM received just over £30million to cover the expenses of the monarch; all the entertaining and the upkeep of the occupied palaces.
      A couple of months ago, the Commissioner of the Metropolitan Police reorganized personal protection and stated that it cost £100million, but that included protection of ambassadors; Government ministers and some ex-ministers. Still leaving £100million that the taxpayer receives from the Queen.
      Prince Charles pays all his family's expenses except for travel on official engagements which comes from the Queen's allowance.
      If (Heaven forbid) Britain became a republic the president would have to be paid a salary as well as receiving all the other costs and be provided with a palace. Basic justice would demand the return of their property. In recent exhibitions the Palace has shown receipts for the purchase of Kensington Palace and Buckingham Palace.
      How many children they have is for them to decide, but as Catherine is so ill each time, I hope she will have some time before having any more.

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    5. That's not true, Maggie. Sorry, but it isn't.

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    6. Sorry Maggie,
      I agree with Anonymous, the Royal Family are funded by the British Tax payer hence the reason why they are called "benefits scroungers" by the British Tax Payer

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    7. Anon"s 7:26 and 10:59 - Maggie has provided us with concrete information she has first hand knowledge. Could you please give us facts that can be verified. Just because some disgruntled people refer to them as "benefits scroungers" is not exactly a reliable fact. Please if you disagree with Maggie, give us a a RELIABLE source to check.

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    8. Consider tourism for a moment and imagine the economic impact of **not** having a monarchy and everything associated with it.

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    9. My comment after 10:59 got dropped, etherized, whatever. I find very confusing and somewhat amusing -anonymouses agreeing with other
      anonymouses, without further identification. Who knows who said what ? Unless you are actually a single
      person with multiple personality disorder- which might make sense.
      I have read today comments that would qualify as offensive that still remain.

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    10. Hi Anoun, many, many readers, in fact, most readers, comment anonymously, which is allowed on the blog.

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    11. Also, it is best that if you you disagree with another comment, that you add your argument and reasons for holding the position. It makes for a more stimulating and interring discussion. :)

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    12. Jane- appreciate your replies. My argument and reasons: Even most of the posts identified with an individual name are still anonymous, for the purposes if this blog. For example, I am the only
      Anoun here. It sets me apart, although I remain, hopefully, anonymous.Royalfan remains anonymous, although we
      know who she is and her opinions.
      I was just trying to point out it is much easier to carry on an intelligent, interesting conversation with
      individuals than with 20 anonymouses whose ideas are difficult to follow.
      I apologise if I have offended. It was not my intent.
      I did not respond to some of the remarks I felt were offensive because others have, probably better than I would.
      Adding my remarks would just add fuel to the fire.


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    13. Anoun, I do agree that it's much easier to follow a conversation when people pick a "name"...and stick with it. :))

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    14. Yes, Maggie is mistaken. Being a British taxpayer does not give her first hand knowledge unless she is employed at the Office of the Exchequer.
      Refurbishing Apartment 1A alone cost the taxpayer £6.5M which caused a lot of groaning.
      I am a Wills and Kate fan, by the way.

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    15. Yes, Maggie is mistaken. Unless she is employed at the Office of the Exchequer, she does not have first hand knowledge.
      Prince Charles and a handful of other royals do have income, but their lifestyle is greatly supported and reliant on taxpayer money.
      When one of the Queen's palaces had a fire and it was made known to the public that millions of pounds of taxpayer money would be used to rehabilitate it, there was an outcry that one of the wealthiest women in Britain (after JK Rowling & EL James of Fifty Shades fame) would not be paying her own bill.
      The refurbishment of Apartment 1A alone cost the taxpayer £6.5M, a figure that was the result of Kate not liking how a purple sample she chose turned out when the finished product was done, among others.
      By the way, I am a Wills and Kate fan. I think that she did and does the absolute best that she can with her looks, self-discipline and everything else. It is a lesson to us all.

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  5. You're right! HRH Charlotte will take some time getting used to. I hope they have a relaxing summer, and that Charlotte (that's my hometown, BTW - enjoy!) is less of a hell raiser than George.
    I will say that I'm hesitant to voice encouragement for the Cambridge family to grow more, if only because Kate gets so sick when she's pregnant. But I'm sure we'll see;) George! Dawww. Cutie cute cute:)

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  6. They do not live off tax payers dollars. Charles covers their expenses. The only thing covered by the tax payers is the security team.

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  7. Wedged between George & Charlotte? I suspect the nanny is. An approx 2.5hr drive would not involve no adults to tend to a newborn/toddler.

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    1. Assumed the Nanny was back there also.

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    2. Possibly, but Kate and William are capable of caring for the children. I also suspect the trip was planned taking into consideration nap and feeding schedules, as would any parent.

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      No one said w&k aren't capable of caring for their kids. But as capable as they are, their nanny seems to be with them or Kate all the time. Think it is safe to assume she is in the back.

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  8. Love the post and enjoy Charlotte, NC -- it's great!

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  9. Faith from MassachusettsMay 6, 2015 at 4:32 PM

    I selfishly hope they have more children but obviously they may not. I thought I wanted four but three turned out to be more tham enough :) Sometimes plans can change when they start turning into a reality. It would be delightful for K and W to have a family of four however, and I don't think they would let Charles' ideas stop them if that's what they wanted to do. I do hope they release photos soon. Thanks Jane for all you do. I enjoy your blog a great deal.

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  10. Hey, I live very near Charlotte!! :)

    I hope Kate and William have more children too. I was hoping for at least 4 but with her acute morning sickness I'm afraid she'll only have one more at the most :( At least we got a boy and a girl!!

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  11. NC is massively cool all the time! :) Thanks for the update; happy for this little family to have some down time, but I will miss them! Looking forward to the first pictures... and the christening? Will that be in October? Thanks, Jane

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  12. Hi, Am. There are many considerations Will and Kate would have to review before expanding the size of their family, two of which you mentioned: the overpopulation of planet earth, and what could be a nasty backlash on the part of the British public. Then theres Kate's age, 33 now, her general health, HG wouldn't be a breeze especially in her mid-thirties, Kate's general appearance, and like it or not she lives in the public eye (my mother once told me that after she had her first two kids, her stomach muscles bounced right back, but after her third--she had three, all in her thirties--she was left with a permanent pot belly), the cost of raising their children in an appropriate manner (private boarding schools, at some point, expensive European gap year, university, and sprinkled in somewhere, ski lessons and horse-riding lessons, sports equipment, travel expenses, wardrobe, etc.) And, no, I don't believe that William is rich, wealthy maybe, but not rich. Sure, some people think *So what? Eventually he will inherit the income from the Duchy of Cornwall.* But this is not writ in stone and the British people, and government, could change that. Then there is the little matter of the succession, or rather, of cutting some royals loose; for example, right now, Prince Andrew sits in sixth place from the throne; if W&K have a third child, Andrew will drop to seventh place which would permit him to marry without requiring permission from the monarch--and Andrew has no judgement and no taste. He is out for Number One (himself), and if he did remarry, it could be a right royal propaganda disaster, as he seems to prefer, to put it politely, showgirls like Koo Stark.

    All in all, it might be far wiser if William and Kate called it quits on the kiddie front. Whether they will or not...but, luckily, they now have a picture-perfect family; why jeopardize that?

    JC

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    1. William is, in fact, wealthy from Diana. W&H inherited about 30 million from Diana almost 20 years ago. Both probably have over $100 million now. Diana lived about one year after her divorce. In that one year, her advisors increased her portfolio about 20%.

      It has been well documented that Charles has been footing the bill for W&H's expenses, so it is highly unlikely they have taken any significant money from their inheritance. In fact, their office first said that Charles would be paying for the updates at Anmer, saying that like most young people, Chalres was giving his son a helping hand up. Then there was an outcry because of William's wealth and the office tried to backpedal.

      I think William and Kate will have as many children as they like. Public consideration won't occur to them. And I think the public will welcome any babies they may have.

      The good thing about Diana's money is that Harry and his family will always be independent and have their own money. And William's children, besides George, will also be independent.

      In an article about Harry's future recently, many commented that Harry can do whatever he wants, as he has his own money.

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    2. Perhaps you could re-check your sources regarding Charles footing the bill for William and Harry's expenses,as well as the details of Diana's will and how much was left after taxes, fees etc.
      I very much doubt it was CH or KP.
      On the other hand, if you are the same Anon who vigorously defended the Queen and Charles here and on
      other sites the past few days, bully for you! You can always speak authoritatively about your own feelings
      and opinions. However, such remarks as you have made @10:35 really require that specific sources be cited.
      Internet law lags behind technical knowledge, but it is slowly catching up. People are being sued successfully
      about "social media" libel and bullying and illegal downloads Not saying your remarks fit one of those..Also, we have learned recently that W&C, for example, keep up with
      what is being said about them and respond. (KP Twitter account) Remember the photo of them in the stands,
      apparently reading something on a phone and laughing? At the Glasgow Games.

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    3. If you are Anon 10:35, I'll be happy to explain. Or are you Anon 5:45, 8:46 10:21, 8:16, 6:32....?

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  13. I hope Kate and William have as many children as they want and don't allow Charles or anyone else to influence a decision that should be between them and only them. The Queen had four children and I'm sure that if Diana had been in a happy marriage she would have had more. I come from a small family and my husband comes from a large family. My husband's family is far more fun when we all get together! Between us all there are 20 nieces and nephews (4 are married so we get to have their spouses as well) and now there are 5 1/2 great nieces and nephews. My father-in-law and mother-in-law have both passed away but we are 39 1/2 people strong and counting.

    I vote for more royal babies and a very enjoyable summer off for Wills & Kate. That woman made a highly photographed appearance in full hair and make-up - wearing heels - 10 hours after giving birth. She can do whatever she wants!

    Have fun in NC. It's so beautiful there and hopefully the humidity hasn't yet settled in for the summer.

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    1. Tell us what you really think of the Queen's children JC. I laughed and laughed at this. So perfect. Like you read my mind. No wonder the Queen is so happy these days. William has single handedly (by marrying Kate I mean) saved them from themselves. I know I wouldn't be here if that wasn't so. Thanks JC.

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    2. Jane, do JCs comments not contradict the code/rules of your blog?

      "please refrain from personal attacks on any member of the BRF or the Middleton family."

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    3. Jane in Canada, you beat me to it. Now I'm laughing even harder because you took the words right out of my mouth...I was about to say tell us what you really think, JC. :)

      I don't disagree with much of what you stated, JC, but I would add that the Queen too is a product of her environment. She was raised to put duty first and she has done so. However, I do believe she was/is wise enough to learn from the past and things have changed along the way. For example, Edward and Sophie enjoyed a long courtship and even lived together at BP prior to their marriage.

      And William's life, IMO, continues to be an example of how not to repeat mistakes made in the past. His relationship with Kate and her introduction to the realities of royal life (both before and after their marriage) have been unprecedented. I believe he does a good job of balancing his private life and his public duties. And it is this determination on his part that, IMO, is a true tribute to his mother.

      Regarding the number of children W&K may have... my guess is one more. Both William and Kate have enjoyed good relationships with their siblings and this support system is even more important when you are living in the royal "fish blow". I may be wrong, but I think they will have one more child to give George and Charlotte one more sibling.

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    4. LOL. I meant "fish bowl".

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    5. I think it is really "rude" of you to refer to the Queen as "indifferent Mother" and to attack her intelligence. Since Charles was about 5 and Anne 2 or 3 she had been the Queen - devoted to the British people and the Monarchy. She is very well read was educated privately. She and all her children have been under a microscope for more than 60 years. No matter what they do someone finds fault. I wonder if your families would hold up to this scrutiny.

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    6. My point wasn't that the Queen's children have turned out fabulously, or anywhere near it. I believe William is a good person because of his mother and in spite of his father. My point was that the Queen, having had four children herself and with Charles being one of those children, they should not take any liberties by giving advice to William and Kate on that front. They are already better parents than either the Queen or Charles were. I look forward to seeing how George and Charlotte (and anyone who may come along) turn out having normal and engaged parents who not only love them but love each other. All of that being said the generational differences between when they were all born have a significant impact. While it's true Charles didn't love Diana (it was still his choice to be a jerk to her) thank goodness for that marriage. It changed the royal family forever. It made them more human, which I realize some of the older generation in the UK don't like, but without it the monarchy would never survive. Diana made William who he is and made it possible for him to choose Kate. Together this version of the royal family, combined with the family oriented background of the Middletons, will leave Great Britain in good hands.

      JC, I don't disagree with your assessment of Charles and Anne. I think Andrew is a victim of his family and his marriage was ruined by them. His continued devotion to Sarah is admirable but neither one of them has handled their challenges very well - him especially. Edward & Sophie just do their own thing. He was raised with no purpose but he didn't allow his family to force him into an "appropriate" marriage for his "station" and they both tried to hold normal jobs but were hounded and criticized for it. When they married they chose a simple private ceremony at St. George's Chapel, Windsor. Prince Philip, well, there's really no excuse for him but he must have some redeeming qualities because he and the Queen seem to have a good relationship despite all of his failings. I don't think the word "stupid" applies to any of them. Sometimes the things they do and say are ill-judged but that's true of all of us. We just don't have a pack of paparazzi following us around hoping we say something wrong so it can be front page news. I don't think any of us would look very good if we did.

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    7. LOL, royalfan! I got a great laugh out of "fish blow" when I read it. I knew what you meant but I get a kick out of typos and autocorrect issues!

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    8. Interesting how much some people think that they know about the Queen's intelligence, her role as a mother etc. Have you been there? Have you talked with her children's personal, very much different opinion's about their idea of a perfect mother?
      A lot of royal watching is in a moderate and guessing tone, not because people don't have any opinions about the royals lives but because they simply don't know: and if you don't know it for sure, there is no need to become so aggitatted and insulting.
      I would think every person tries her and his best to become a good parent, and if they do not succeed, they will personally suffer their whole lives in one way or another.
      Intelligence, by the way, is no measurement for good parenting.
      Alice

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    9. I have moderated this thread, I hope with no offense taken by anyone. Please direct any questions about this to me via email, which you can find in the Welcome or About page. Sorry for any irritation caused. JBarr

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  14. Can we please not get into a discussion about whether the royal family pays for itself, takes public money, etc. Basically, people are truly deep in their beliefs and won't change. It really brings nothing but fighting. Let's agree to disagree and move on.

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    1. A discussion of the financing of the royal family is permitted, since many find it interesting. However, any needless digression into whether they work and/or deserve whatever money they receive is, I agree, not helpful, and so not welcome.

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  15. Hello all! I have limited internet right now and I have lost track of what exactly all our discussions are here. If I could, I'd like to pause both the chat on the Queen as a mother in addition to the discussion of what the royals cost the taxpayers until I have reviewed the comments. Polite discussion on both these topics is welcome, but as always, please consider how you make your point in addition to the actual argument. i'm sorry for the inconvenience!

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  16. And now for a completely new thought...The Queen created the title The Princess Royal for Princess Anne. Now that the title officially exists, will it continue? Is it only for the daughter of a monarch? If so then, presumably, little Princess Charlotte could inherit that title. Thoughts?

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    1. Julia from LeominsterMay 7, 2015 at 7:32 PM

      It's by no means a new title - it goes back to Charles I. The question is whether it should still exist because of the changes in the law of succession. But the purpose of the title doesn't directly relate to that and I don't see why it might not continue for Charlotte.

      I wondered why the queen never held it but should have realised the answer - because her aunt Mary held it and was still alive when Elizabeth became queen. So being the heir presumptive wouldn't necessarily have been a deterrent to having the title in the past - but now a princess can be the heir apparent and presumably the Duke of Cornwall (if they follow the style of Lancaster) and Princess of Wales in her own right - things are a little less clear.

      But since Charlotte has an older brother, it remains likely she could be given the tile once her father is king - and after her aunt Anne who now holds it, has passed away. (Given women often live longer than men, it is possible Anne might still be alive when William becomes king.)

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  17. Five siblings? Lucky you! I'm curious, what is your birth order?
    The size of their family it's up to the William and Kate, but I wouldn't mind to watch the lindo wing live again ;)
    It would be nice if the Cambridge children could play with a bunch of ginger cousins in the future...
    Many thanks for your coverage of the birth of Princess Charlotte!

    Liseli

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  18. "Ginger cousins!" I like the sound of that.

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  19. Julia from LeominsterMay 7, 2015 at 6:57 PM

    The Prince of Wales has spoken out forcefully on the need for population control on several occasions. William has also said when asked he would like two children. I have known families who said "only two" and ended up with three so I won't be suprised if William and Kate have one more, but more than that could be very awkward for Prince Charles. Today''s royal family is also expected to be small - so more than two children would probably have no royal duties - although it's not clear who is going to cover all the work presently being done.

    http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/queens-finances-explained-you-need-3753404 gives one of the best discussions on royal fianaces. The queen does indeed receive public funds through the Sovereign Grant - the main difference between this and how it was done in the past with the Civil List is it is left up to the queen to divide it among family members.
    I''ve always referrred to the Duchy of Cornwall as quasi-public since it is unlikely that Charles would retain it should the monarchy end. Charles pays taxes on income that exceeds royal expenses. This amount is chosen by him. In theory he should be paying more when William and Kate aren't working in public duties - in practice this is unlikely. Security is said to be the single highest royal cost although no one so far knows how high. It is paid for by the public. Now that the Freedom of Information Act is being used more agressively - it's possible more could be disclosed. The queen is also being pressured to pay security costs on some family members - but so far not William and Kate.

    Kensington Palace - doesn't belong to the queen - William and Kate are living there as grace and favour residents. If William and Kate actually live an almost private life - it would be very fair if they paid fair market rent on the Kensington Palace flat (like Prince and Princess Michael do - who perform some public duties.) and possibly pay (or have Charles pay) some security costs until they take on a major royal role. I completely support the royal couple but at the same time, they are adults in their thirties and to be more in touch with the type of expenses most people - from the very rich to the middle class have to pay - would connect them with their future subjects. William and Kate have both had their way smoothed by thier respective families - from Kate's pre-marriage flat - to the gift of their country home. Being handed some substantial bills for matters presently covered by the public (Kensignton through the royal palaces) would be an eye-opener. But little chance of this.
    While it's often argued that William and Kate will work into the age when most retire like the queen does - there is nothing to support this. It's up to the couple who aren't acting like previous royals. I think age-related abdication is possible in the future - when it might be less a dirty word than it is to the present queen.

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    1. I believe that Charles' wish to downsize the RF has more to do with aunts, uncles, cousins, etc., than it has to do with the number of children of a king or queen. I think most people would be happy for W&K if/when they have another child and three is hardly over the top. And anyone who would have a problem with it, well, there may be other issues involved (nothing to do with W&K).

      And I do not understand the argument that W&K should pay rent (or the issue of how much time they spend at KP). Most royals stay in London only when they need to and they prefer to stay at their other residence(s) whenever duties allow for it.

      And of course there's no "support" for W&K putting in the hours (for lack of a better word) that HM currently does. At this point, they are in a supporting role as they devote time to raising their children (while they can!). Considering recent royal history, I would say that is a very wise long term investment.

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    2. Buried in a lot more words in a much fancier format, you are essentially saying what Anon 10:59 said. Except
      you have singled out William and Catherine, instead of the royal family in general.

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    3. My 9:26 comment was in response to the comment at 6:57, not royalfans at 8:12, which was not yet printed.

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    4. Julia from LeominsterMay 7, 2015 at 10:27 PM

      Actually, William and Kate are unique. The Michaels and Gloucesters no longer have country residences. Edward and Andrew use rooms at Buckingham Palace. Anne has a small flat in St. James Palace but mostly lives in the country - she carries on a very full schedule. Charles is the only family member other than the queen to have both a private and expensive separate London residence and a a house in the country - he uses Clarence House a lot for entertaining and work related matters. Presumably William plans to do the same some day for Kensington Palace (not clear what will happen to Clarence House - possibly for Harry?)

      I have never nor never will refer to the royal family as a whole as benefit scroungers. But to say the queen doesn't take public money is inaccurate. Tbere is an exchange but she comes out well ahead. I'm a staunch royalist for royals involved in royal duties - as I trust William and Kate will be some day. But I do think the fixing up of the flat in Kensington Palace was premature. There are other places the public money for the royal palaces was more urgently needed - particularly Buckingham Palace where the queen may be asked to contribute and which needs immediate repairs according to reports.

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    5. I have very much enjoyed your posts, Julia. Great job.

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    6. Leo, I do not believe it was premature to renovate the KP apartment for them. The cottage couldn't accommodate a growing family and the renovations had to be done sooner or later. And since renovations were already being done to other parts of the palace, it did make sense to do it at the same time. Probably more cost effective in the end. William will be king, I do not see anything wrong with him and Kate having an apartment they will occupy for many years to come. I wouldn't be surprised if W&H have no interest in CH when it becomes available, for reasons I don't think I need to expand on. Also, A1 is the only KP apartment with **private walled garden** (Diana's is now used by the Michaels); key for a young family. None of the other options suggested have the same privacy factor to offer.

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    7. Actually the official residence of Edward and Sophie Wessex is Bagshot Park which is leased from the Crown Estate. Sophie was recently photographed there for her fiftieth birthday. It looks beautiful. They use Buckingham Palace when in London.

      JLN

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    8. My two cents on this, for what it's worth. I think Charles does want to reduce the size of the monarchy. But there are a lot of relatives who can be "kicked to the curb" long before we look at W&K. Andrew and his kids. All the aunts, uncles and cousins. And even Harry. Before you yell at me, I believe that Harry is thrilled to be falling lower on the pole. This is his chance to have a normal life and I think we are going to see the gradual but very firm disappearance of Harry. I think he'll go live in Africa or Australia for the most part. I remember reading that after Diana's death and as they grew into young men, Harry said he would always be there to support Wiliiam in his royal role. That they would serve together. But with Kate so popular and competent to support her husband, Harry may not be needed. If Charles lives 20 or more years longer (and he will most likely live far longer than that) then it is likely George will be an adult when William ascends the throne, so Harry may never have a significant role. And I'm sure he has no wish to be "Andrew". My point is that with the death of Her Majesty, the monarchy will become much smaller. Charles will see to it. I just think it's a little bizarre to suggest that W&K should be paying more of their way when there are so many other relatives that should be looked at first. I hope this makes sense.

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    9. Agreed! Very well said Jane in Canada!!!!
      Nina

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    10. Jane, you make perfect sense. :) I too think that Harry is happier to be "lower on the pole". This way he can follow his heart and throw himself into whatever interests him most without worrying too much about the more formal aspects of royal life. And his family will have less pressure to deal with as well.

      I also agree that there's plenty of downsizing to be done before a (potential) third child of W&K would be an issue.

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  20. Did you see the DM article comparing photos of Michael Middleton to George? If you need a "cute fix", I highly recommend it. :)

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3072857/Prince-George-gets-looks-Michael-Middleton.html

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    1. Those side by side photos were just perfect. Thank you for sharing this link. :)

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  21. He's the quietest Middleton, yet he's a rock star. Gotta love it!

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  22. I spent most of the time while reading this article imagining what the car ride to Amner must be like. It's probably exciting and nice for them to have a (kind of) long family drive just the four of them. There will always be a car of protection officers following them and I'm sure Nanny Maria feels like part of their family, but I'm sure it's a nice moment of normalcy when they just get time together as a family doing mundane regular things.
    And as much as I love appearances by all, I hope they have a very relaxing summer. You make an excellent point about the palace discussing schedules of events. It's better to not expect much and then be surprised. Then we don't get disappointed but it also allows for them as a family to take this time day by day and do what's best for them. Kids grow up so quickly and it's important that they get to spend that time together.
    And as much as I'd love for there to be royal babies 3.0 and above, I just want Kate to be healthy and comfortable. While they have said they'd like a bigger family, that was before they knew that Kate is susceptible to HG. If they feel content with two and don't want to risk another long bout with illness, then that's ok. As long as they're happy and fulfilled.
    I live outside of Charlotte but I do work in Charlotte. I do hope you enjoy your stay here. Luckily it hasn't become debilitatingly humid yet. It's still too hot for me and my northern-bred blood but you've come at a nice time. If you have time, Belmont is to the east of Charlotte and has a cute little downtown you might enjoy. I hope to hear about your visit in an upcoming post! I also hope that one day Princess Charlotte may visit the Queen City. That'd be wonderful. I'm already thinking of it as her city now!

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  23. Yes, there is a distinct similarity between George and Michael Middleton. I think he will be a good-looking Prince. George also has Kate's looks in maybe his eyes, but I can also see William in him in his hair and skin colouring.

    Fiona from Australia

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  24. Ciao a tutti! Sono Elena italiana,vivo a Palermo-Sicilia.Complimenti per questo bellissimo blog che sto scoprendo oggi e gia'mi piace tantissimo!!! Non nascondo le mie simpatie per Kate, William e i loro splendidi figli...leggere di loro...guardare le foto a volte mi rilassa e mi distacca dal frenetico ritmo della mia vita divisa fra lavoro,casa, marito e figli!!! A presto meravigliosi!!
    Elena

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