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[ID Update] Kate, William, and Harry Launch "Heads Together" Mental Health Campaign

Sunday, April 24, 2016

For many months now Kate has been focusing her charitable work on mental health causes. She spent the majority of the fall of 2015 spotlighting charities, a number of which she is not even officially patron, and she moved into 2016 strongly emphasizing this cause. In March of this year, Roya Nikkah reported in the London Times that William, Kate, and Harry would be launching their largest joint-initiative to-date focusing on Mental Health. Kensington Palace has officially kicked off the project this morning as they released a video announcing "Let's Get Our Heads Together."

via Kensington Palace
The Heads Together Campaign has been selected as the 2017 London Marathon Charity of the Year and three royals will partner with numerous other charities already working in the field to end the stigma attached to mental health. According to Roya's report in March, each of the royals will tackle a certain aspect of mental health. Harry will continue to work with veterans and service members, William with young men, and Kate with children.



Not surprisingly, Place2Be is heavily involved. Although Kate's sharp focus on mental health only developed in the last year, through Place2Be, she has been involved with early development, bullying, and mental issue for some years. Place2Be is the ideal charity to take a leadership role with Kate on this project.



This launch is timed to real perfection. William and Kate generated so much excitement and good will while in India and they are aren't letting that momentum die now they are back in the UK. I know many worried that the couple would disappear for a month or so as they have in the past after a big tour, but this seems to show a turning point for the young royals as they haven't skipped a beat since coming back.



Kate turned to her favorite combo of skinnies and Breton top for this video. The top appears to be new and I will have to Google around a bit to put a tag on that. She is wearing her Lauren leaf earrings from Kiki McDonough that are quickly becoming her go-to pieces for casual occasions. 


They are only visible for a hot second, but she is wearing neutral wedges. She has several similar pairs in her closet, but I think these could be new. 


We've seen this combo before, but I still love it and it is sure to spark a number of new Breton top purchases. You know, because the five you already have aren't enough. ;) As soon as I have an ID I will update, but this is a lovely addition to her Breton collection. It is a little more sophisticated than some of her others, because the fabric looks more substantial and the stripes are thicker. I also really like Breton tops where the stripes stop along the shoulders, which gives it a more polished look. This is her best Breton top to-date. Hopefully I will have an ID for you all soon. Carly at Kate Middleton Style IDed the top as a Jaeger piece, which is regrettably sold out right now. There is disagreement on whether this is correct.

This top is in a luxurious cashmere, which would explain why Kate's's has a soft look. I think it could be this Jaeger, although the stripes don't look the exact same width. Time will tell. I'll keep you updated. It is available in an alternate color scheme at Jaeger's outlet here.  [Update] Sometimes Kate really takes us on a bit of joyride, and today was one of those days. But, the sweater was finally IDed at J.Crew Tippi Sweater with Shoulder Buttons.



You can see the buttons just a bit when Kate throws her head back in these two screen shots:



I don't usually do this, because if I bought every item Kate has worn that is still available when IDed, I'd be broke, but...I definitely bought this. You can find the sweater here. It is on final sale! It is always exciting when Kate wears J.Crew.

Place2Be

P.S. speaking of new shoes, Amanda has pulled together a great selection of repliKates of Kate's shoes from India! if you loved her scrappy heels, unusual flats, or new collection of pointy heels, you need to pop over to Amanda's post here



121 comments:

  1. So good. I really hope for their sake it continues.
    Well done to William, Catherine and Harry.
    Royal Watcher

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    1. I too hope it continues. The video was fantastic. Upbeat and fun, and this trio is nothing short of amazing.

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    2. I could not agree more, royalfan. Amazing.
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  2. Oh my goodness, Jane! I just melted over the video. You can tell William, Harry, and Kate have such a great friendship... which isn't always a requirement for dealing with family! I know this aspect is well known, but little snips like Harry taking a selfie with William and all the laughing at the end is so great to see. What an excellent video highlight such a worthwhile cause! They are on a roll in my book right now.

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  3. Fantastic. The new generation of royals are so cool.

    Duchess Kate is fab..

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  4. One of the strongest trinities around :-)Esp. good for a cause like mental health.

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    1. Well said. Such a clever fun ending we can all relate to serious face times and to share that side of them is cool especially I think of all the times those three have to be serious faced at events and probably sometimes struggle due to life's little jokes and each others humour. This is genius idea - great to link with London marathon!!!
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  5. Wonderful to see them all laughing and loving supporting such an important cause.

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  6. Oh my gosh! Seriously, how cute is Kate at the end of the video?! Love her.

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  7. Alexandra from CanadaApril 24, 2016 at 9:41 AM

    Oh. My. Goodness! What a wonderful video! It is fun, hip and hilarious.
    The ending is just too cute...Well done on our favorite royal trio, this hits the mark on being informative AND upbeat. Mental health doesn't always need more sad videos but can be uplifting and inspiring. I am very impressed :)

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  8. Wonderful! I love how relaxed they all were and that they couldn't keep a straight face while trying to do the "serious one" for the cameras! They really are so relatable!

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  9. Dear Jayne, I really don't think it is the Jaeger sweater. The Stripes are much thinner and the end of the sleeves are different too. So I don't think it has been IDed as yet! Kind regards, sophie

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  10. Oh, I love J.Crew! Sadly, while a great Breton top is one of my very favorite things, this one is wool. My skin does not like wool right next to it. :-( Still, I have plenty in my closet to choose from. I hope Kate chooses more J.Crew for her casual wardrobe.

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    1. Yikes! Robin, I share your pain. Literally. ;)

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  11. I have to say that this just made me smile so much. These 3 are golden.

    I also think it is worth pointing out that this was filmed a little over 3 weeks ago. So this was done prior to the tour and just after the Shamrock Crisis. Or maybe even just around that time. This just supports the notion that Kate does much more behind the scenes. Just because she isn't seen doesn't mean she isn't working. All 3 of them were working.

    There is no doubt in my mind that Kate is not workshy nor is William.

    Bravo for this new adventure.

    Those headbands are too funny 😄

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    1. Press says it was filmed three DAYS before release. Does also make sense sonce she wears the wedges she debuted during the tour.

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    2. 2:33-the press says-where, source? It was filmed during the Queen's birthday celebrations, with everything else going on?
      Also, just because the tour was the first we saw the wedges doesn't mean the first time she wore them.
      In fact it is a good idea to break in new shoes before such use- didn't she play cricket in them on the tour?

      Sometimes it is as though Kate has no existence outside the photos we see. Life goes on: family and childhood milestones are marked, charities are visited, new clothes are worn, friends are visited-we don't have to be privy to their every waking moment.

      "The Queen has to be seen to believed" is a favorite quote from somewhere and some
      time and brought out and bandied about to "proove" the public has a right to
      monitor the RF's every moment (not just HMTQ) There is more than one meaning for the expression and
      more than one voice to say it in. I think it is possible it was said with a bit of a sarcastic or regretful tone. Another meaning? As in- " the chaos the hurricane left
      behind was horrendous-you'd have to see it to believe it."

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    3. Sorry I am sticking to my 3 weeks. I have read that in multiple articles

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    4. Well now I see a 3 day before release ? Hm. Well whatever it is it still shows that they do many things behind the scenes that are not known about prior to an event or perhaps never known in preparation for others. That was the real point I was trying to make anyway.

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    5. Diane, I had read that it was 3 days before in two places, so I actually thought it was quite clever to have done it the day of the Queen's birthday while everyone (press) was in Windsor covering the Queen. I'll bet it was that day.

      What a wonderful initiative for these 3. They really are a great team. I also read that this initiative is going to be launched formally on May 6th, so I'm betting that means we will see Kate that day as well as May 4th.

      It's been a wonderful April. I'm exhausted, so I can just imagine how W&K are feeling. Next up, Anniversary! Then Charlotte's birthday. I hope they can celebrate both occasions in private. But with a new pic of Charlotte for us?

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    6. Well, I guess with an unlimited budget three days is technically possible, but it is very hard for me to believe that they pulled this together in 3 days. The work that goes into editing a video of this caliber is not insignificant. As I say--unlimited budget, anything is possible, but it is hardly an ideal timeline. It wouldn't be professional to say, let's have a three-day turnaround. I think it must have been filmed earlier.

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    7. I love the thought that they used the press's evacuation to Windsor to film this! Gotcha!

      Diane, I agree that the real point is that they work hard behinds the scenes. I'm sure they study the issues, have planning meetings, and have to coordinate with HM. They fit this around their family life and public appearances. These are not work shy people they just don't parade themselves in front of the press every day. Rebecca English & Co. need to get over themselves.

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    8. I'm guessing that all of the running shots and the personal introductions of each runner were shot and edited together in advance. The bits with the royals were probably shot in that 3 day time line and then quickly edited in. I've spent a straight 24 hours sitting in an editing bay and it is possible - not a lot of fun, but possible.

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    9. What two sources? Should I hazard a guess the DM is one and a quote (credited or not) of the DM the other? That may be why no one has named the sources.

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    10. My guess is W&K&H were filmed recently after, not before India. Will has color in his face that is not always there and he was in the sun on that trip. Kate has more color too but with a woman, it could always be makeup. 


      Can anyone from the area make a guess based on the leafing out of the trees? Based on my limited knowledge it looks later than the first few days of April. I also wonder if W&K would have been so relaxed and giddy pre-India.

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    11. Well 3 days or weeks it's fun and nice to see the Triad together spinning things for a modern monarchy. Happy to see them. Happy to see them enjoying all of the fun with the others.

      No one can convince me that they have no interest in the monarchy or the job. They do!

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  12. love the royal trio are back working for good causes

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  13. Just wonderful!! I love this trio. Excellent message as well

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  14. Alejandra RamírezApril 24, 2016 at 10:03 PM

    Such a fun video! Great job to the Royals and to you! :)

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  15. I love it when these 3 get together! It's even better when it is for such a good cause. We really have been spoiled this month with appearances and I hope they continue on in a similar fashion. KP has promised us some surprises coming up and we have already had a few.... it leaves me wondering what else they have planned. :)

    Onto a slightly more frivolous note.... Kate's hair is stunning in this video. It's very healthy looking and is probably the best I have seen it looking in quite a while. Love, Love, Love it!!

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  16. Sonja from BavariaApril 25, 2016 at 12:59 AM

    This was a great surprise! It's always good to see William, Kate and Harry in action together. And just like Kate, I love breton shirts, so I really like her outfit :)

    Do you think the Royals will do something at the marathon, like awarding the medals to the winner etc? Would surely be great!

    And I loved Amamda's post on the shoes - but commenting here is jzst easier so I will use this comment to say well done Amanda, and I love the cheaper strappy heels similar to her pradas!

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  17. They are my favourite royals!

    So fresh young royals are!

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  18. I LOVE events with all 3 of the young royals. They are my favorite. They are so comfortable with each other and look like they have so much fun together.

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  19. Like everyone, I too enjoyed the video; the three do seem to work well together on this issue, altho I do think that there are occasions which would be best served by a duet, especially at any engagement which involves Kate wearing an evening gown. Think that if Harry wants to go to same event, it should be solo--at least, until he acquires a wife. (There are times when its a case of the more the merrier and times when Harry becomes a third wheel, and, I would think, not necessary and perhaps not welcome even if it saves Charles a few bucks. This time, it was a case of the former, and well done.)

    Re what Kate wore, just as I was ready to throw up my hands in utter disgust at Kate's standard uniform (thank you, Charles, for your miserliness) of skinny jeans and breton top, she managed to up the ante just enough--the skinny jeans look new and the length was flattering; the breton top was the best Kate has yet worn--but, there are better.)

    Nevertheless, Kate looked great and, more importantly, she looked pretty happy. Think she was really into backing this cause, and bless her for that!

    Overall, given the venue, the cause, and Kate's solid casual look, she gets a two thumbs up from here....as for the two brothers....

    JC

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    1. I think it's lovely when Harry joins in - even if it were for Charles to save a few bucks. They all have such a great and easy relationship together and we do get plenty of W&K sans Harry. For this particular launch it was very appropriate for Harry to be there since it is sponsored by The Royal Foundation which is their charity.

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    2. JC, considering how compartmentalized and competitive member of the BRF can be, I am thrilled to see Harry with W&K. It tells this sappy royal fan that the brothers are genuinely supportive of each other, and it isn't a "game of rank."

      And this is just my personal added note here, but I suspect Harry would step up to the plate and be very supportive of William's wife and children should the need ever arise. I say AMEN to the bond we see, and the genuine, seamless team effort displayed.

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    3. Too true, royalfan. So nice to see the "game of rank" not being played out here. I don't think Harry would want the "top job" but I, along with you, believe that he is probably W&K's biggest supporter.

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    4. Royalfan, that would be my hope, too, that Harry would take care of Kate and her children if something were to happen to William.--That is actually one of my nightmare scenarios, that some accident would befall William, leaving Kate penniless, friendless--face it! who could she trust in the Windsor family, and I use term family with some trepidation since the Windsors strike me as akin to the mafia, and what hope would she ever have of remarrying? (Not that Kate isn't worth remarrying--she is a beautiful woman, after all, with gracious manners, etc.; but she would come with too much baggage for most rich men, the sort who could provide her with security. These men wouldn't be willing to be dragged into the Windsor limelight, c/o her high profile children, as Diana discovered.)

      It isn't Harrys job to see to Kate, it is Williams. He needs to set up a trust fund for Kate, just in case. And it wouldn't hurt if Mike and Carole did the same, if they haven't already. (It would be shameful, really, if they haven't already; I mean, they're old enuf and experienced enuf to know the score and if they weren't ready to provide for Kate, to provide her with an escape plan, as it were, should the worst happen--divorce or death-- they should never have sanctioned, nor financially supported the fact that Kate moved in with William at university nor should they have gone all out to provide for the wedding.

      I often wonder about Mike and Carole and their motives--no need to wonder about the wacky Windsors; thats been well established.

      We have to remember that Harry will, in all probability, eventually marry, and, quite naturally, his main focus will become his own family. Harry cannot be expected to make up for any lapse of Mike, Carole, and William--strikes me as unreasonable.

      JC

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    5. Agree totally JC. I also agree sometimes a duo is better than a trio.

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    6. JC, I have a feeling (and a rather strong one), that William is on top of things. And likewise for Harry, when the time comes. These young men lived through, and survived, one of life's harshest reality checks.

      I do agree with you about "the Windsor's" and, my goodness, there would be so much to consider. A genuinely scary thought!

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    7. Thanks again, Iizzie. Sometimes--well, many times--I feel like a lone voice in the wilderness. Nice to have some company here, apparently out in left field.

      JC

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    8. I am not sure the Windsors would throw Catherine out on her ear...the family is really just not all that important anymore. Catherine would have custody of the children and that as has always been the case gives her great power with the in-laws. I can think of plenty of rich men who would marry Catherine if what she wanted was the security of money, none of whom would give 2 cents about the "Windsors".

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    9. 8:17, I was not suggesting that the Windsor's would throw Kate out on her ear. No... :) But I do question the level of control she would have over her children, for example. (I'm referring to key decisions and not custody).

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    10. Not quite, Anon.8:17. The reason all of the claims that Diana was going to marry Dodi and move to California are so obviously false is that Diana knew she would lose her children. Her two best friends have publicly stated that. As heirs to the throne the children are pretty much owned by the BRF. That being said, I am sure William has provided for Kate in case of accident or worse. As the mother of George and Charlotte she would always be treated well by "the firm" because she isn't in a merry war with the Windsors as Diana had ended up. As to remarriage, there are any number of members of the aristocracy who would love to have the privileged life of the BRF. Even though Diana lost the HRH title she still had loads of money from Charles, lived in KP, and was still the mother of #2 and #3 in line. Attractive to many an aristocratic man who has been taught to value societal rank above all else. I will always believe that's why the Fayed family worked so hard to parade Diana around in public and why Dodi and his scummy father share equally in her death with everyone else involved that night. Kate is doubly blessed because her own family are also very close to her.

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    11. Would Catherine be attracted to and marry such a person?
      Right about her ace-in-the-hole-her Middleton family.

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    12. Why are people bring up,who would take care of Kate and the children if something happened to William. First this is a sick thought. Second William and Kate do not have a pre nap. So I would think everything that William has would him to Kate. Also I would think William has in place everything needed to take care of his family.
      Let's pray that they will be together for a very long time.

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    13. I am just a little uncomfortable with hypos that include the Cambridges divorcing--for a number of reasons, probably most of which are relatively obvious. :)

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    14. I don't think they will divorce. My comments were more in line with what would happen if Kate were widowed. While it's not a pleasant thing to think of, William does fly a helicopter for a living. Because of his high risk job I'm sure he has put everything in place for the protection of Kate and the children.

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  20. Love that Kate wore the Monsoon Fleur Wedges again. They have definitely been identified as the Monsoon wedges as I have a pair and have been comparing them to loads of photos of Kate wearing them on the tour. I hope Kates Clothes is updated on this as they are definitely not the mint velvet ones. Thank you.

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  21. Oh my goodness, have any of you seen the Town & Country article about Kate's wardrobe in India? They show the clothing with the "prices" of each piece and the prices are hideously overinflated! Here is the link: http://www.townandcountrymag.com/style/fashion-trends/a5853/kate-middleton-india-tour-wardrobe-cost/

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    1. Wow. Just wow. I hate articles like this - they scream poor journalism. As you have said, the costs have clearly been over-inflated! I also love the line "according to the people at E-Online". Since when did E-Online become a valid source/reference on anything?? Why didn't Helen Jung do her own research? What a poor effort on her behalf. Clearly she couldn't be bothered and this was just a piece to earn her some quick money. Even worse, this article has been purchased by and run in several different magazines including Cosmopolitan. Sigh.

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    2. Everyone wants their turn at the clicks this topic generates. The press did it to Diana many times, and when her comeback was to recycle (hehehe), they criticized her for THAT. So along the lines of what William stated, you need to be aware of the criticism, but not let it run your life. It's part of the job.

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    3. This article is insane - all you have to do is go to the Anita Dongre website to see that her dress cost $236 and the $4 earrings and wedges do not bring the price up to $326. I'm sure there are many other glaring mistakes but this is one that jumps out at me right out front.

      So, I have to admit that I have also repliKated this JCrew sweater. And since I've mentioned it, also the Anita Dongre dress, which I think is more than enough Copy-Kating for this spring :)

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    4. No, no Pauline. Georgia Rose is talking about the T&C article. She is a loyal reader here at FBTB. :)

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  22. Yet another stripy top!!! The giggling at the end of the video is a bit silly.....

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    1. Bah! Humbug!

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    2. Agree, Anon 3:49, it seems stilted.

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    3. Stilted? You mean uplifting?
      HM has a uniform. Why shouldn't Kate?

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    4. I agree about the giggling Anon 3:49. It did seem a little lame. But not EVERY ad campaign is going to appeal to every person. It doesn’t mean there is something wrong with people who aren’t drawn to a particular piece of work or everything about a piece of work anymore than there is something wrong with people who don’t like a particular movie. I know I thought the “this is your brain on drugs” ad campaign in the US was SO dumb. But recently (when Mrs. Reagan died) I heard several commentators who are younger than I am say those ads scared them silly and convinced them not to do drugs.

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    5. You are right, Anon 7:09, why not Kate - but I didn't mean the top, I meant the giggling. :) Maybe Mr. Dictionary showed me the wrong word. I thought, the giggling was not genuin.

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    6. franziska-now I'm embarrassed and properly shamed.
      I know better than to play with words here. We are from many cultures and native languages on this blog.
      I don't have the courage to blog in another language.
      Genuine is a great word and explains what you mean perfectly.
      anon 7:09

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    7. I love that my international readers jump in and express themselves despite the language barrier! Don't stop! I am always impressed that you all have the courage to express yourself, even if not always perfectly. It takes a lot of guts and I salute you!

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    8. Thank you, Jane and Anon 7:09, you are very kind and encouraging! And Anon - no reason to be ashamed, you had to ask, because you didn't understand, what I meant. :)

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    9. Very gracious, franziska. I really didn't understand your meaning. However, I was
      trying to make a joke-a play on two different meanings of "stilted."
      Stilts are high-you get lifted up. And I meant her giggle was up-lifting, or
      encouraging. Brighten things up.
      It was a mess. Ha!

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    10. Mental health is not a 'laughing matter' for one thing.

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    11. Kate's giggling reaction near the end of the video appears so 'school-girlish'.

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    12. Lizzie, lame?? Say it isn't so... :)

      Different people do see things differently. I thought it was a nice "period" to the video.

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    13. Correct. Mental health is NOT a laughing matter, and the subject should not be used to undermine the efforts of William, Kate, and Harry.

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    14. Just different strokes for different folks royalfan!

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    15. Mental health itself is not a funny subject. However, this activity was planned to attract young people and give them a fun outlet. The point was made that these children needed more fun, not more seriousness.That the approach to healing need not be all seriousness. They are young and some have been
      carrying the burdens of an adult, with no chance to be a child.

      People laugh at funerals. They tell each other funny stories about the loved one.
      It is relaxing and comforting.
      Kate's giggle helped make her more relatable . Several of the youngsters remarked
      how easy she was to talk to. They had been somewhat intimidated by the idea of
      meeting her at first.
      Pick on Kate's toenails or ringlets or eyebrows, but leave her giggle alone.
      This was a playing field, not Westminster Abbey.
      Come on!

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    16. Understood, Lizzie. :)

      8:01, I love it! "This was a playing field, not Westminster Abbey. Come on!"

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    17. lizzie agreee agreee, mental health still has a real taboo... eating disorders are a mental health issue yet talked about all the time, cutting is a real issues , less talked about, schizophrenia no more scary than Add or Adhd or Anorexia, or Bulemia or Manic/depressive. or autism etc etc, but there is a stigma. If you say you are a Type 1 or Type 2 diabetic or have thyroid disease, or have asthma, or thyroid disease or on and on there is no question no stigma. Mental health for the most part is a hormonal biological disease, and needs to be treated as such and not as a stigma disease. I am so proud of the Royal Family for addressing this but I hope they focus on how it extend into adults who do not have addiction issues.

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    18. anon 12:14- good point. There are many causes of mental illness, just as cancer has.
      Brain wiring plays a part-a very physical cause. The body image (dysphoria,I believe)
      illness Robin speaks of below is an example.
      So-eating disorder illnesses are truly psycho-somatic, mind/body, illnesses.
      William and Harry are both focusing on adult issues, while kate's focus is with children.I understand your point about the addiction emphasis, but they probably need to narrow their focus to be more effective.Hopefully, others are now addressing and will tackle the
      other forms of mental health problems you mentioned.
      Just as an aside- Kate realises she must first assure her own children have a
      firm mental health foundation.
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  23. Does anyone think W&H chose mental health issues as a nod to their mother, who struggled both as a child of nastily divorced parents and as a young woman with an eating disorder?

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    1. 6:56, I may have answered this question elsewhere :) but I do believe that Diana's experience has much to do with it. Consider some of the issues she dealt with both as a child and a married woman. She was also keen to educate people and eliminate the taboo aspect of some of the problems people face.

      The RF didn't understand Diana and there was little or no compassion when she suffered from postpartum depression or bulimia. She was practically taunted over the latter and made to feel like SHE was the problem.

      Sooo...kudos to this amazing! Diana would be so very proud of them.

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    2. I would not know Diana was mentally thick. Bullemia is body condition.

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    3. I have thought about this too - but more from the perspective of what William and Harry must have endured having lost their mother so young and at such a formative time in their lives - they must have suffered greatly. Also I suspect Kate had her own struggles also growing up, having being bullied at Downe House. I think the two backgrounds combined have resulted in such a strong focus on mental health in the young. Love the video and the dynamic between the three of them. It's fab!

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      I agree. Probably a combination of their Mothers issues but I also assumed much if not most of this interest may stem from their own experiences.

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    5. Anon 10:17, bulimia is not a body condition. It effects the body but the condition arises from emotional disorders such as depression, anxiety, stress, or poor self esteem. It is a form of self harm. In Diana's case she would use binge eating as a way to sooth herself over her perception that she wasn't ever good enough and then purge over the guilt she had from eating all that food. Later in her all-too-short life she was very open about the bulimia and her struggles. Anorexia and bulimia are still very misunderstood today.

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    6. RobinCA
      Agree that both eating disorders at the current time are not well understood. My understanding is that eating disorders are often a result of emotional and biological processes. Emotions are also biological but it is understood that the way stress or shame or control manifests itself when not well regulated can vary depending on other hormonal and biological factors. Eating disorders, compulsions, ticks, sleep issues, etc. So an eating disorder is necessarily the result of wanting to be thin and fueled by the unhealthy images portrayed in magazines as was promoted at least in the media years ago. It can be, but often it is not. Eating disorders are also found in boys and men and that area has been late to be researched. You sound very knowledgeable so correct me please as my information came from a friend, a psychologist who works with women in University athletic programs with eating issues.

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    7. Anon., I have also learned that biology plays a big role. I'm so happy to hear that your friend is focusing on this issue. It seems to be quite prevalent in female athletes. My experience is that I have two friends who suffered from both of these diseases. For one it was definitely a body image issue where - even though she was a lovely girl with a normal (and slim to those who saw her) body type - she felt fat. When she looked in the mirror this is what she truly saw in her appearance. This led to very low self-esteem. It was a spiral that took over a year to reach full blown anorexic behavior - starting with a low calorie diet, then vegetarianism, then on to vegan, and then to just not eating at all. As soon as the bulimia started she was fortunate enough to have a family who got her to a doctor. My other friend had several things spiraling out of control in her life. Family issues she could do nothing about but were very stressful. She just stopped eating. Eventually, her body being unused to food, could not accept it and she couldn't keep anything down. As a 5'9" woman she only weighed 92 lbs. Through a couple of years of therapy she finally was able to discover that, as things were going poorly in her life, there was one thing she could control and that was what she ate. The most important thing to remember about people with eating disorders is that they are not "cured" when they recover. Much like alcoholism, they will always be a recovering bulimic or anorexic. Sometimes the eating disorder reverses from thin to obese. I know a gal who was anorexic in college and now, instead of avoiding food to feel better she eats to soothe. I really wish society would focus more on how eating disorders continue to effect both males and females. Maybe, once it's not such an obvious connection, what W,K&H are doing with mental health will take on some charities that deal with the psychology of eating disorders.

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    8. Edited to say "is "not" necessarily the result...

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  24. I think that Catherine has found her niche and sensibly has taken the time and trouble to find it.
    The three of them together are a force to be reckoned with. Hope Harry is lucky enough to find a nice girl who will fit into the team.
    The video was great and shows how much is done under the radar. There is an announcement of two engagement for Catherine on May 4th---opening a children's playground and a lunch with one of her charities.

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    1. Two more engagements! We are getting spoiled and August is going to seem even longer this year!

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    2. I have been wondering about the future of Harry's bride fitting in one day for a while now. They do seem to have more fun when it's all three of them. I don't think anyone Harry has dated would've fit in, but I don't know that for sure. It's going to be tough on her trying to fit in whoever she is I feel sorry for her and as of now she's hypothetical!!

      I loved the video, no laughing matter indeed but there's a difference in laughing at and laughing with someone. This, to me, was clearly laughing with...

      I wish we knew when they did do it!!??

      I've always thought it was just unsaid but known that they have taken on mental health issues because of Diana and because of Kate being teased. Maybe I'm wrong??

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    3. I don't think Diana is ever out of their minds for long and echos of bullying
      continue throughout one's life.
      However, they have stated their reasons a number of times. Often,when serious
      life-altering problems were encountered in their work,a common root emerged-
      lack of a healthy mental look and means of coping . When this occurs amidst
      poverty, the blow to a child's hopes and expectations is devastating. Throwing just
      money at the problem won't solve it. These children,veterans, and young men
      Catherine, Harry, and William reach out to through their foundation need the comfort and
      reassuring touch volunteers can offer.

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    4. All of this being said about Kate being bullied, isn't it interesting that Kate is still being bullied by the press and, occasionally, in blog comment sections? Even here at FBTB there are sometimes people who write things that, if said to someone directly, would be considered bullying. This is an issue in general with anonymous posting on the internet. People who would never bully someone in person feel free to do it anonymously on the internet. It's something to think about and to self-assess each time we write.

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    5. Agree 100%, Robin. I was run off another blog (shaming and bullying) for saying just that-repeatedly, in reaction to the bullying of Kate that continued non stop. This happened on a supposedly well-respected Kate blog.
      The very angry opposition claimed that it was ok to make such remarks about Kate since she wasn't personally known to the commenters, while such remarks were not ok made to fellow commenters- that was their justification. If someone was in the public
      eye, all bets were off. They had accepted bullying with the fact of being a public person.
      The habit of finding fault and bullying and the lack of kindness and empathy required to practice
      it is a trend encouraged by the internet. I think the ease, speed, and convenience
      of the internet are as much related to this as presumed anonymity.
      I now comment as an anon due to that experience, but I'm sure those who use
      "handles" are just as anonymous. If someone wanted to track one of us down, it wouldn't be through a made-up ID used to comment. We are none of us truly anonymous.

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    6. Agree 100%, Robin. I wrote a longer comment, but it got lost, I think. (good thing-the issue upsets me.)
      We are all actually equally identifiable-if someone really wants to know; but not by any made-up name.It IS nice to get to know commenters by a name. I just haven't recovered from the last time .Ha!

      I am an anonymous W&C supporter.

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    7. So true RobinCA. ali

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    8. I agree with the basic tenets of Robin's initial comment and with the general thrust of the follow-up Anon et al. comments. We *should* be careful about what we post even on a blog that is moderated to screen out awful stuff. But I don't agree that the deciding factor whether to post something should be "would we say it to a friend's face?"  By that standard it seems to me about 99% of the comments on THIS blog (and some of the comments in Jane's articles) would not pass muster. 


      For example (these are not quotes or if they are, it is an accident)


      "I like Kate's hair today and think it looks fantastic but I liked it better longer and without the fringe"


      "I hope Kate maintains her recent style change...I love it..and hope she doesn't fall back into that dull style the BRF probably forced her into"


      "Kate looks great but she needs some serious advice on shoe styles...her dull shoes drag her whole look down"


      I can't imagine saying ANY of those things to a friend's face unless I was specifically asked about that specific topic and even then I would be reluctant and would have to be asked point blank. And I certainly can't imagine commenting on a blog devoted to a friend's clothing choices (albeit a very positive blog) So the flip side is I am not so willing to see run-of-the-mill comments published here as "bullying." Bullying is a surely serious issue but comments about a famous person on a moderated blog...I can't see it. After all, like it or not we are ALL engaging in a kind of voyeurism here. And while being the target of a voyeur may not be the same as being a bully's target, it's not something we do to personal friends either.

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    9. Lizzie-there is a difference between an unfavorable comment and bullying. The examples you have given may not be bullying. That involves repeated taunts with the intent to demean and/or demoralise. Intent can be clear or disguised.
      For example,there was an article by a royal writer who made demeaning remarks about Kate disguised as "concern." It carries the same message.
      When certain sources make repeated remarks over time that cause the target to suffer loss of reputation and/or deep shame-that is bullying.
      The remarks you included sound petty or snarky and maybe a bit juvenile, but as isolated comments, are not
      bullying. Neither are the bra-size, eyebrow, toe-nail comments-they are just rude and in poor taste.
      We've had this discussion before. Continuing the work issue-when William has stated
      emphatically that the Queen hands out the work; continued remarks about speechmaking,
      her weight, her decisions, inability to make choices-all choreographed to make Kate
      appear inadequate-That is bullying .
      Famous has nothing to do with it. Bullying is bullying, whether it is your little sister or daughter who is the target or a princess. It is meant to destroy and it does.

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    10. Anon 11:14 I was not talking about articles in the press. I agree some certainly have been over the top although even for those I won't go as far (as it seems you *might* have) to acribe a particular nefarious motivation to the writers. I was talking about what is said here on this blog as Robin had touched on that in her initial comment. 


      You say the examples I've provided are "snarky." That's not a word I ever use but if it means what I think it does, it applies to many real comments made here. You've also said they seem "juvenile." Maybe. They were faux comments meant as an illustration but did represent real comments. Now though I'm wondering what IS an acceptable non-snarky grown-up kind of comment to make here. Would those be limited to "Kate looks great" "Will looks great" "George and Charlotte look great" ?  I'm not sure how mature those sound but a "discussion blog" composed only a series of like comments seems a bit pointless and likely not long-lasting. 


      My point about Kate being famous was not to say therefore she is fair game for anything. But we would not be logging into to comment about an unfamous person now would we?


      I realize bullying can be serious.  But if we are too quick to call something bullying, it seems that may diminish serious cases just like always being vigilant for micro-aggressions can trivialize serious societal issues.

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    11. One of my criteria for bullying is when a person is disparaged in a public way when the commenter knows that the "target" cannot defend him or herself. That happens to Kate. Anyone who believes that the comments made about her weight, her degree of tiredness, her "roots", or comments stating that she looks pregnant - comments of that kind are unkind, embarrassing and, because Kate can't do anything to defend herself, are bullying. That's my definition. I don't think any of us on this site or anywhere, would openly say the things we say about Kate to anyone we care about. The comments about her fashion choices are fair, as is a discussion about our hopes for the monarchy and how W&K might impact that, as long as the discussion is polite. And I think Jane takes care of that.

      I note today that William is speaking out about cyber bullying. I remember last fall there were rumblings that he and Kate were going to tackle this subject by meeting with website executives. Maybe this is the start of that.

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    12. Anon. and lizzie, I think you both have made good points. There is a difference between bullying and a critique of shoes, hair, etc.. A critique, however, can be a bullying remark if made with harsh language. It's one thing to say "I don't like this dress because the pockets are odd." and "This dress emphasizes Kate's (pick a flaw). Why would she wear that?" That's something that could hit someone's self esteem because you're criticizing something she can't do anything about. Every bully started with smaller aggressions before escalating to what they became as they became emboldened.

      Anon., I'm sorry you had such a negative experience on the other blog. It makes me so uncomfortable that people would do such things. I actually left Facebook about 2 months ago because I saw so much bullying during this election season here in the US. I never did political posts so they weren't directed at me but the things I saw directed at my friends and, on occasion, from my friends, I just couldn't read anymore. I decided I would prefer to still like my friends after November so I just logged off. You know, my life is better without FB! You were smart to leave that other blog. You don't need that negativity!

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    13. Robin 11:56- Re dress pockets- that is exactly what was done, maybe not here. The discussion went from "I don't think the pockets are stylish " or whatever to
      "they point to her chest," which was described as inadequate.
      I don't understand why it is so hard to see why one is appropriate for a fan blog-and Yes, a criticism, and the chest remarks not. ( not addressing you here, Robin.)

      People can comment on a famous person's fan site without being limited to smarmy
      compliments.If one doesnt know the difference, maybe the DM comment section
      should be the site of choice.
      It is the difference between objective comment and personal remarks.
      And by the news of William's taking up the subject of cyber-bullying, I'd say we
      are dead on topic here.

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    14. lizzie 7:04- I understand what you are saying about the overuse of the term "bullying." Sometimes the technique of over-using is a ploy for diminishing the impact of a word. For example, a famous person's behavior is called cowboy style, meaning without thought or finesse. That famous person then turns around and repeatedly calls himself a cowboy in a favorable context. Eventually, people stop calling
      him a cowboy because the word has lost it's original pejorative meaning.

      Inappropriately and repeatedly referring to someone's remarks as bullying not only
      weakens its meaning, it is also a form of bullying itself.

      None of my remarks are quotes or other's thoughts,as far as I know, unless I cite a source. Only my opinion.

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    15. I appreciate your kindness, Robin.
      FB- smart move. I am sick of the polarisation, too. I have only family and one former
      college roommate as "friends." The idea was to get photos of my grandchildren.ha!
      One election year was so awful that no one has overtly mentioned politics since.

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    16. Photos of the grandchildren are the best reason for FB. However, my daughter now knows to text or email them while I'm on my FB boycott. :-)

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    17. Thanks to all who responded to my post. Certainly food for thought. My post was concerned with an issue that honestly puzzles me. I'm still not "getting it" I suspect. I will think about it but if this blog is only for "objective" comments as one poster  said and the rest of us should go to the DM, it would seem the only info here should be Court Circular info and where to buy Kate's clothes.. no opinions on anything! Because positive opinions are no more "objective" than negative ones. 

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    18. Anon 1.27 PM I feel for you about the other blog. I left a very popular blog just recently myself. I read but I will not comment. It had become so negative that I felt that it was losing its way. It seemed the bullies could say what they wanted but some of us who defended were being reined in a bit. When I questioned the issue the Admin who I have great respect for deleted my post after having already posted the comment. That really upset me and I decided that it was best for me to stop commenting. I know a few others that left as well. They read. No comments.

      Big difference between a critique of a person and outright comments that are of a personal attack.

      Jane doesn't allow this here and I am grateful for that. So welcome to this blog! Good group of regulars with lots of knowledge.

      RobinfromCA I known what you mean about FB too. Just this week I made a comment on a post that was a political page but my comment was not polarizing. It got a lot of attention which was interesting. But the next morning I had 12 hateful comments that were just vile. I was also called a few very derogatory names. I had to block all of them. I reported the one comment to FB and they deemed it not inappropriate? What? It is ugly more and more on FB. I need to boycott. However it's the only way for me to stay connected to family and friends since I live 1600 miles away. It's like my lifeline. But still lot of meaness in the world.


      Ok sorry for rambling.

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    19. Ladies, I have been following this conversation throughout the day and agree with many of the points you have made. In my humble opinion, one word is key here, and that is *intent*. Anon has said it before and I have made similar observations over the years. It is the real estate equivalent of "location". :)

      It isn't a question of loving everything Kate wears or agreeing with everything she does, but if you don't, what is the motivation behind it? There is sincere critical thinking, and there is bullying (sometimes passive...sometimes quite obvious).

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    20. Using "intent" as a yardstick makes sense re: bullying but it is sometimes terribly hard to determine someone else's intent. Deciding a person's comments on a blog must have carried with it an intent to harm or else the person would not have made the comments seems like circular reasoning. And while I am not an attorney, I do know mens rea is not always easy to show even in court.


      A criticism of an element of a dress is often just that, particularly on a fashion blog. (And if meant as more, may be aimed at the designer!) For example, some criticized the EW outfit Kate wore on arrival to Bhutan. In fact, I believe most of the comments after that arrival article were negative if rated positive, negative, neutral. I assumed those related to the dress and EW's typical style details not to Kate but some of this discussion has made me wonder how others perceived those comments. And if negative comments are bullying at worst or "snarky and juvenile" at best I don't really understand how one discusses fashion (or much of anything else.) The rule our mothers taught us "if you don't have anything nice to say don't say anything at all" would not make for interesting reading or internet discussion if used exclusively particularly on a blog devoted to one subject. In F2F conversation one can always change the subject and talk about the weather! (As I said before I am talking about this blog not FB or some other blog. It sounds like those other venues have been bad experiences for many here)  I also think for something to be bullying there has to be an "intent" for the target to know about it. If a group of high school kids regularly makes negative comments about another student and ridicules her in private among themselves, it may be unattractive immature behavior but if the other student never hears about it, its not bullying. I think we too often do not include that aspect of intent as a criterion these days when we overuse the term.

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    21. Actually, I was responding to Valerie G. 11:03, her final sentence. I believe most comments followed from there.

      royalfan-Yes, intent is the key.Seemingly difficult to spot; but after awhile, it
      becomes rather obvious.

      lizzie-9:18- you somewhat creatively interpreted my remarks out of context, I believe. I clearly explained via example what I meant by the terms "objective" compared to "subjective." I may not have used your apparent take on objective-meaning favorable-
      Objective actually means taking oneself out of a judgement. There is objective criticism, which I and several other commenters made clear-by example. It was also made clear that a criticism can be presented so that it is not an attack.

      My DM comment was not meant to be taken literally.It is the personal attack types
      of comment that I noted on that site in the past that I was referencing. I assume they continue.

      Multiple commenters have given multiple examples of the difference between constructive criticism that seeks to build and assist and personal attack type of
      remarks that seek to tear down and destroy. Again, intent.

      And some comments are just rude and in poor taste.

      Diane- I experienced exactly that.

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    22. PS- There used to be a popular format in medical assessment documentation.
      It was called the SOAP approach- standing for Subjective, Objective, Assessment, Plan
      from the point of view of the patient.
      It served to separate what the patient was feeling and saying from what any
      observer could see without the emotional factors and bias.

      Applying this loosely to Kate commenters: subjective-the Cambridges have no right
      to call themselves "normal." (I'm normal and I don't get luxuries);
      objective- the Cambridges live an uper class lifestye, which is not average. They
      do, however, have normal human needs, including giving and receiving affection.

      I wonder if some people choose deliberately to mis-understand to perpetuate an argument for various reasons. I've heard the motivation behind some troll remarks is seeing what reaction they can get to a remark. The more responses, the greater the reward for them, I guess.

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    23. Are you saying,"What you don't know can't hurt you?" I think that is exactly what can hurt one. One can't defend oneself. Are you assuming Kate will
      never hear about remarks made about her? Not sure what your point is.

      Are you saying criticism that is phrased kindly and in good taste is boring?

      The trouble with people gossiping amongst themselves, making "negative comments," is
      1) it is often spread outside the group
      2) it requires the sort of mind-set that is behind the cyber-bullying that devastates
      youngster's lives. To me, it can be compared to an internet pandemic.

      That is exactly why William,with his Foundation, is enlisting the help of ISPs and technicians to combat cyber-bullying. The emphasis is on the 12-14 age group.
      The official British Monarchy site under William's work and charities explains this.

      By the way, Robin wasn't just commenting about this blog, although you chose to do so.
      And if you wish to quote my words ("snarky OR juvenile,") please do so in context with the qualifers and examples I referred to. I did not make a blanket statement about
      unfavorable comments in general.

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    24. My 9:59 comment is a PS to one I had made just before, which has not appeared.

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    25. Diane, I was aware of what happened to you and I do agree with you about the tendencies for the naysayers to be allowed to make whatever comments they want but when someone calls them on it they are "censored" so to speak. Glad you are here.
      Lizzie, I am sorry, but anytime people get together to "trash" another person it is bulling weather it is in front of them or not. Your intent is the same even if the person is not present. When someone constantly criticise Kate no matter what is happening they have only one intent and that is to portray her in a negative frame. The media is definitely bulling Kate and William at this time - all because they are not being able to control their lives. You can see the same naysayers on all blogs eating it up. Even when everything about an event was positive. For example today is the Cambridge's 5th Anniversary and it is obvious they have a strong marriage and are doing everything they can to raise their children, however instead of acknowledging this milestone some of the naysayers on a popular blog are referencing a negative critical article by the Daily Beast - a well known republican publication - rehashing old old accusations. Just one example, but we all know who they are and can wager what we are going to read.

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    26. Sorry, Anon I just can't accept that "talking trash" about a person is "bullying" even if the person being talked about never finds out about it. That is really expanding the definition so far it loses its meaning. For a person to be bullied, he/she has to know about it.


      I don't doubt some of your other points could be true. But I don't read articles about W&K I think are trash and I don't have any way to determine the motivation of people who do.

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    27. Lizzie, I respectfully disagree that it doesn't qualify as bullying if the person doesn't know about it. Some of the qualities of bullying include the following: bullies need to feel powerful and in control (superior); they gain satisfaction from hurting others; they show little empathy and compassion for others; and they defend their actions by blaming the victims. Sound familiar?
      There are other characteristics, but I think these apply to the discussion we are having.

      Engaging in this 24/7 does have an impact on society because the internet makes it easy to spread this sort of toxicity.

      And, yes, Kate is a public figure, but this does not make some of the more personal comments any nicer, nor does it justify them.

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  25. Interesting--a lawsuit re the royal wedding dress:
    http://fashionista.com/2016/04/christine-kendall-alexander-mcqueen-lawsuit?__hstc=222739652.c6221de372bd581d686d982aae7748dc.1461677764287.1461677764287.1461677764287.1&__hssc=222739652.1.1461677764288&__hsfp=3183566052

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    1. Seems like someone is looking for their 15 minutes of fame. She waited so long after the wedding to bring up her first claim and now she's at it again years later. If she wants to be a fashion designer she is going about it the wrong way all around.

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    2. I agree with you, Robin, regarding the 15 minutes of fame.

      I also suspect that Ms. Kendall has tainted her reputation by doing this and, in the end, the clientele she wishes to attract will avoid her designs.

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    3. I'm with you, I don't understand get waiting so long.

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    4. I love how they are really showing all the nay sayers they really do work behind the scenes!!!!! If I did all that he does and constantly got accused of not doing anything I'd pick one photographer and go on vacation too!! How else would they ever learn?? I love it!! Keep going W&K&H!!

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  26. I am seeing that the Cambridges are going to Canada this Fall perhaps with the children. Anyone else see this? It's on Twitter. Not announced yet but a go. I thought I read that the Wessexes were headed to Canada this year?

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  27. Every time I see pics of the three of them together, my heart aches for Harry. I hope he finds his soul mate soon.

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  28. Ok watching clips of the wedding and blubbering like a baby. I love the hymn that played when Kate walked the aisle. It was fantastic. Crying like a baby. What a magical day that was..

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    1. Yes, it was Diane...every bit of it.

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  29. FYI: I ordered the J. Crew sweater through the blog and was just informed via e-mail that it wouldn't be available after all. Disappointed.

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