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The Duchess Debuts More Lace for Somme Commemoration

Friday, July 1, 2016

This morning William, Kate, and Harry returned to the Thiepval Memorial to tour and open the Thiepval Museum before a service to commemorate this anniversary of the first day of the Battle of the Somme.



The Museum tells the story of the conflict, attempting to convey to a new generation something of the mind-boggling destruction wreaked upon those at the Somme. The museum includes a room with a wall of photos of those who were killed and whose bodies were never recovered. 

War Graves Commission

The three young royals were joined by the PoW, the Duchess of Cornwall, François Hollande, and David Cameron among others during the course of the day. 

Kensington Royal
French and British school children helped decorate the graves and were standing at attention when the royals arrived. The Cambridges and Harry got a chance to practice their French with the youngsters.


According to royal reporter Emily Nash, Kate got great marks in her language skills:




Here Cameron is trying to explain his thoughts on BREXIT to William while Hollande stands by awkwardly. Kate is like, should we rescue him? And Harry is like, "are you kidding me?! Let's watch this play out!" I am joking. I have no idea what they are talking about, but that seemed as good a guess as any. ;)


Unfortunately, there was more than a spot of rain this week. The umbrellas had to go up during the event. William--ever our charming umbrella man--had his up quickly, protecting Kate's fashionable "Lion Tamer" hat from Lock & Co. while Harry struggled to get his brolly unbuttoned.


The rub with two intersecting umbrellas is that the rain drizzles down in the center, in this case right on Kate. Oops, chivalry fail. I think she wanted the boys to sort that ASAP. 



I don't know what I think about this ensemble. I have always loved this hat, which Kate has worn on a number of occasions, in public and private. You probably remember it from Trooping in 2011. It was just as perfect today as it has been on every other occasion. 


The dress is what is tripping me up. I love the black and tan of the ensemble. I like the peplum and the pleated shoulders. Usually on board for the Peter Pan collar, I don't know that I love it here. It might have been just a bit too much. Ladies, I don't know. I like the colors in the abstract, but something is just a tad off. I think the lace looks too heavy and too matronly. I know many of you had a similar critique of yesterday's coat, which I liked very much, but today I would be inclined to agree. The taupe lace with the black lining isn't working for me. It isn't a miss, I didn't look at it and say, what was she thinking! At the same time, it isn't a hit. Ah well. As the French would say, c'est la vie


Kate wore her Annoushka pearl drops, Gianvito Rossi pumps, and carried her trusty Bayswater clutch from Mulberry. She looked polished and stylish, even if the entire effect didn't set my fashionista heart thumping.


Apparently, according to initial strategy, the British forces were meant to be back-up at the Somme for the French, but the Germans engaged the French in February and so the British became the main offensive force for the Somme encounter, resulting in their terrible losses. The battle that diverted the French was another major conflict spanning from February to December of 1916, with hundreds of thousands of casualties. It was Verdun. I love Michel Sardou, so I leave you--particularly my French readers--with another song that I listen to often.






125 comments:

  1. I absolutely love this outfit!!! Possibly my favorite lace dress to date. It combines many of Kate's fave elements-sheath silhouette; Peter pan collar; peplum and lace. Love the antique color and black hat and the way the blue and red pin looks with it too! So glad she is wearing so many updos; she is elegance itself!!!

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    1. Good insight. Regardless of what we think of this dress, it captures and includes what we have come to know as some of Kate's favourite fashion elements. It's apparently bespoke, so maybe she got to request all these combined details. Or maybe she saw a sketch that sent her heart aflutter. The perk about an outfit like this, is that with as skinny as she is without a lot of curves, this kind of dress creates curves and shape for her.

      ~ A

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    2. A- it also has a French connection-the lace is French-made.
      Add that to the fact that with all the sitting likely involved, she had nary a
      wrinkle. Some of the other ladies probably wished they had been wearing lace.
      The princess cut is also flattering.

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    3. I haven't liked the lace dresses she's worn for day engagements before, but this one is stunning. Jane, I loved your comment about the purported Brexit discussion. Wit and humor are too rare in the world of royal blogs.

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  2. I am tired of the lace dress-coat-coatdress combo, enough of this same hairdo. Find it boring and less and less flattering.

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    1. Me too!! She is buttoned up too tight.

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  3. Wow, this outfit blows me away! It's elegant and timeless. A real ' mademoiselle' outfit.

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  4. I agree, one of her best lace ever. It's something I can see on Crown Princess Mary.

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  5. This dress looks like a Sound of Music moment where Kate was forced to make a dress out of the hotel drapes

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    1. I think you mean "Gone with the Wind."

      Funny thing is Julie Andrews, star of "Sound of Music,"came to my mind as well. I think Kate looks like Mary Poppins in that outfit.

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  6. I love her ensemble, I think she looks fabulous, and yesterday also.

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  8. Verdun - another horror story from WWI. Thanks for sharing this beautiful song. I understand very little French but it was quite moving.

    Today's dress was OK for me. I think the Peter Pan collar is what I really thought should be left off. A round neck would have been less fussy and allowed the pretty peplum to have its moment to shine. Again, the occasion outweighs any fashion dictates. Those children standing there are the future and it is so important that they learn about and never forget the past.

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    1. I agree completely. If you removed that fussy collar this would get high marks for me but as is I feel completely meh. I love the colors and I love lace but there's just something off - and for me it's the collar. Kate has completely turned me against a Peter Pan collar, I must say. I feel quite they put her over the edge into fussy whenever she wears them.

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  9. I, too, am suffering from lace fatigue, but I find this look to be very on trend. She looks beautiful.

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  10. Today of all days really shouldn't be about Kate's outfit. It's so important that the younger royals are seen at these commemorations as it means remembrance is less likely to tail off as the older generation pass. Have a look at https://becausewearehere.co.uk/ or #wearehere on twitter.

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  11. I like it, but don't love it.The hat is a favourite of mine, but doesn't suit dress.It is too high off the face.Yesterdays was fabulous.

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  12. I like everything about the dress except the shoulder pad look. Kate looks very nice. Nlopez

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  13. I'm a little tired of lace in the daytime but with the contrasting lining  this lace is a change of pace from the many other lace dresses Kate has worn in the last yr. But I find the styling of this bespoke dress uninspired and while I usually don't think this---it seems a little dowdy to me partly because of the length. I don't usually campaign for Kate's skirts to be shorter but this one could have been an inch or two shorter.  Peterpan collars aren't my favorite for adult women, not a big fan of puffed shoulders especially with that style collar and I am SO over peblums on Kate. Its just too busy with too many different elements for me and I think the cornflower and poppy get lost on that background. Overall the outfit worked well enough for this event but this isn't a dress I'd want to see recycled any time soon.

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    1. Kathy from new jersey, lizzy I agree, too much going on. Lace, the peplum, collar and poof shoulders. Love the hat, and hair. Ofcourse our Duchess . 😊 also, I noticed a little tummy from side photos. Hmmmm. William and Kate did take 3 tiers off that wedding cake

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  14. Kate really loves her some lace!!! I suppose we'll look back on her style many years from now and that's what we'll remember- her lace dresses!!! I loved this look. It looks to be the older French cousin of her nude Jubilee dress. She looks elegant and serene in a sea of dark suiting. Camilla wore a navy dress- Kate stands out in a good way without it screaming "Look at me!!!" Very well done Duchess. This has been a year where she has shone as "Queen in Waiting". Not big fashionista moments, but tasteful, thoughtful, elegant garments that will stand the test of time and that will still look appropriate years from now. As for the hairdo- I like it up and out of her face. Princess Anne has had the same updo for 50 years, and the Queen has not changed her hairstyle significantly either. These last two days are wins for me....

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    1. "older French cousin"...I like the description. :)

      I prefer THIS older cousin. The peplum does something for this dress that the simple belt does not do for the Jubilee dress.

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  15. Nope not feeling this number either - on the whole perfectly adequate and should work but just doesn't quite get there - I think the effect of the dress appears a bit too harsh or something for daylight if that makes sense - maybe a better evening look - though the hat is splendid..

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  16. Historically Kate recycles at these somber military events and sometimes she is critizied, but then many come to her defense and saying recycling takes the focus off her and keeps it on the event. Two days in a row she has been wearing updos with new wardrobe pieces.

    I've already been noticing the shift in her style (less recycling, more consistently expensive pieces, more jewels) in the last few months, but these last two days really signify for me a shift. She's upping her game at somber events. More Princess and Duchess, less Kate Middleton. But of course, it's just an evolution of Kate :-)

    ~ A

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  17. I love it! Different from her other lace dresses. The peter pan collar mimics the scalloped edge of the sleeves and hem. I like it a lot but maybe no collar would make the lace stand out better..

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  18. I would have loves yesterday's hat with today's dress!

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  19. I LOVED this look. The dress is beautifully structured with the impeccably fitting sleeves and peplum giving her curvier hips. I normally dislike Peter Pan collars intensely but the rest of the garment is so beautiful I'm willing to forgive it here. The lace with the black underlay screams French chic whilst being restrained and tasteful. The hat is one of my favourites and so happy to see it back - with its airy straw weave and shape it's one her more unique ones. The updo was lovely and the whole look was beautifully classic with a 30s edge. Give her a fur stole and a martini glass and she would be right at home in an old Hollywood film!

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  20. Lace, peplum, Peter pan collar... zzz.
    I know those earrings are supposed to be chic but they look old and costumey to me. Luckily, what the Duchess did at this event was far more interesting than what she wore.
    I'm disappointed.

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  21. I love this dress and everything else...I love her hair up; so much better than down and in her face. Much more elegant.

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  22. I like it from a distance. Zoom in and I kind of like it less. Not sure why ? The collar is not a go for me. Maybe that is the problem. She did look beautiful and I love that Hat!

    Just wanted to remember that today is also what would have been Diana's 55th birthday. I am sure this is felt in William and Harry's heart today. 55 ? Hard to believe. Sometimes I just have difficulty believing that she is gone. Still surreal as we close in on the 20th anniversary of her death.

    Sigh

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    1. Diane, I share your sigh. On the one hand, I smile at how blessed William is to have found Kate and to be able to enjoy the happy family life that Diana dreamed of, but it's also a sad reminder of how much she has missed...

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    2. Yes so very much .....

      royalfan... have you looked closely at the pictures of Kate? I have seen 4 shots of her from the side. One where she, William and Harry are with heads bowed. Look for that and tell me if you see what I think I see? Also while Kate usually walks keeps her clutch midline when standing she will move to under the arm when walking or talking. That clutch never moved. Also, many noted how tired she looked yesterday. I think the deep tragedy of the Somme was to blame. But today these pictures make me wonder.

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    3. Diane, I know exactly what you're referring to and arguments could be made for it. Anything is possible.

      I am also reminded of this photo from the Asia tour (blue dress) ...

      http://cdn.fashionmagazine.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/09/Kate-Middleton-Alexander-McQueen-Jenny-Packham.jpg

      Similar??

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    4. I too thought about Diana's 55th today. She would have loved those grandkids!

      I see what you're talking about, Diane, but I don't think she'd be able to take on this busy schedule with her propensity toward illness.

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    5. Yes it is similar royalfan. Probably just my wishful thinking LOL

      RobinfromCA you are right about the schedule and illness. The photos just kind of hit me in the face and a co worker was watching me zooming in who is not a follower and she said "she looks pregnant". So ... that got me really looking.

      Wishing you both a wonderful holiday weekend! Celebrating our independence from Britain as we continue our obsessions with all things Kate and British LOL... I am sure my DAR relatives are rolling over bahahaaaaa....

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    6. I wondered the same thing, Diane! I've been wondering about it due to how she's seemed recently, and today's photos made me consider anew, but time will tell. (Speaking of time - the timing would be in keeping with the past, too.) TBH, it's kind of cute on her even if it's not what we hope it is. :-)

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    7. Diane, thank you for the giggle as you pointed out the irony.... :)

      And, on a serious note, I too wish you ladies a very happy and safe holiday weekend.

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    8. Forego tanning,hair coloring, possible facial enhancements; rumors of weight loss
      and possible illness (there have been less gracious comments, but I think you get
      my drift.) The only thing missing is her sweet little chipmunk face.

      Ladies- I hope not, because that would mean she has been on the go, working while very ill at times, traveling overseas with one long journey, for
      months under extremely stressful conditions. (cue for some to bring up all the
      working mothers who work in horrid conditions etc etc.-it is a relative situation).

      But if so, can we at least expect an apology from the ungracious gossipers?

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    9. A happy 4th weekend to you ladies too - and the irony is duly noted. LOL! I'm just keeping in touch with my roots. ;-)

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    10. Did you notice Prince Charles wearing a blue suit, reported to be the late Diana's favorite for him? Someone suggested it was his way of remembering her on her birthday, which I like to think is possible and true.

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    11. Kaye, I do believe it was the case at her funeral, but I'm not so sure about this occasion. Most of the men wore navy suits (vs. black) and even Camilla opted for navy so I honestly think it had nothing to do with Diana.

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    12. You're probably right, Royalfan ~ I was judging more by the third photo down, where PC's suit appears much bluer than the others. Now I wonder if it's just a brighter/lighter shade of blue, compared to Camilla's navy for example?

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    13. True, Kaye. His suit is a lighter shade of navy, not that I see an issue with it. Given my history on the subject, I'd like that on record. :)

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  23. Vintage perfection from head to toe. Kate may have the monopoly on lace, but I think this look is extremely flattering on her, with all the details working together quite well...the antique color, length, sleeves, peplum, updo and earrings! And the lattice weave sinamay fabric of the hat is a great match for the lace.

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    1. I love peplums but this one is particularly pretty. I agree with the sinamay being a perfect compliment for the lace.

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    2. I think the Cambridges' feel their family complete.
      Kate is so ill during the first trimester of her pregnancies. That can't be good for her overall health in either the short or long term. William has always said he wanted two children and they have them, a boy and a girl. Theirs is a true love match and I don't believe William wants her to go through that again. Yes it is said Kate wants more then two children,but it wouldn't surprise me if she doesn't want to go through such sickness either. Of course this is just a thought and I could be totally wrong.

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  24. I know this really isn't the time or place for this sort of comment, but gosh Kate looks very gaunt and exhausted. I think the biggest comparison was last week in the pink Jenny Packham gown. The side-by-side pics of her 5 years ago and today really emphasise how exhausted she looks at the moment and I think today's pictures really show that.

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    1. I don't have kids but I have friends that do and they look the same kind of exhausted as she does. It's to be expected when you have two super little kids. It will pass.

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    2. She is fatigued as any mother of two young children looks - I have one and its intense!

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    3. I had 3 in diapers and all 20 months apart. No family within 1000 miles. My friends also had their diapered babies so no help there per se. It does wear you down. It's very exhausting and takes a toll. When my parents came to visit 8 months after my 3rd Emily was born my Dad literally gasped when he saw me. I was very very thin and looked pretty darn ragged. Raising children is not for the weak LOL. It changes you mentally and physically. We cannot expect Kate to look like she did 5 yrs ago in the dress.

      She looks a little tired. But she has been on the go for weeks now. I also think the event is a somber one and she lost relatives. I am sure the air is quite heavy with sadness and that makes a person look strained as well.

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  25. I think she looks lovely, and I really liked her outfit yesterday too. I don't think she's dressing too matronly, she is solidly in her 30's, the mother of two children including a future King of England, and is married to a future King of England. She is a Duchess. She doesn't need to follow trends and I doubt she wishes to start trends. I would imagine she dresses for herself and for the event and her husband and mother might have input as well.

    She is not a girl and she's certainly not a new royal. Her marriage is established as is her place in the royal family. She doesn't need to impress anyone with her appearance, those days are behind her. And I doubt she cares overmuch about bad press regarding her clothes/hair/makeup. It probably doesn't feel good to know mean things are being written in the papers but she's had years and years of mean things being written and again she is beyond needing validation for her appearance.

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    1. Puts things in perspective, anon. 5:58.

      I think there may be a number of quite young commenters here, which is fine; but I
      wonder if some understand that Kate isn't Angelina or Kim. As a senior member of the
      Britisb Royal Family, she has a fine line to tread. She must know her place and operate within it. She is not a Queen, as Letizia and Maxima nor a Crown Princess. This concept may be difficult for some to grasp, which explains continued comparisons to them.
      She also has an obligation to be true to herself. Quite a balancing act. One that has taken time to perfect.
      Throw in pleasing William and retaining some of the magic that drew him to her
      years ago...
      I think Catherine will continue to grow and evolve in the years to come.
      Those who see her true worth are not judging by how many wrinkles she has, or if she dresses like a runway model, the color of her hair, her curves-they see a young woman who is intelligent, kind, and compassionate-she speaks French to the French
      President! she reaches out to children and the troubled. With all this, she still loves to laugh. She is an aaccomplished athlete, a gifted photographer, a loving and
      dedicated mother.
      She will be a marvelous queen.

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    2. Also agree 8:58. I have never thought Kate really cared about clothes at the "uber" couture level. I think she liked to look good but did not spend much time going to shops and tracking fashion. She always looked good when young because she was young and very attractive. At that age you can wear lots of hip stuff at pretty low cost and swap out all the time. At her current age and status it gets much more complicated. I think she is trying to figure out a way to look good, and really special on occasion but not have to spend much time on it, just like the Queen who has a uniform.:):) ali

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    3. YES! Anon 1, I have always felt that age (especially) and culture/circumstances play a key role in some of the criticism. It's a different world and, even during their courtship days, Kate grasped this concept. W&K are not reality stars; we're looking at a future king and queen and they must act and look the part.

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    4. I love this dress although I think it would have been better shorter.

      I'm in my sixties and I find her attire too matronly. It has nothing to do with Angelina or Kim. I read a posting somewhere related to yesterday's Missoni coat outfit. That both Queen Letizia's and Princess Mary are older than Catherine, yet Catherine often appears older than them. I so totally agree. And what's all the rhetoric that Catherine has to dress a certain way because she will be Queen. Hopefully that is decades away unless you want Charles to step aside or have a shortened life. She should dress age-appropriate, not as if she's already a Queen in her sixties. And enough with all the up dos.

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    5. I believe the comparisons involved comments about her aging face-a condition often
      remedied by Botox and fillers now. Obviously, Catherine chooses not to use them at this time.
      If you feel Charles will still be around decades from now, you are an optimist.

      The mandate for senior royals in the BRF has not been age-appropriate, it is role-appropriate.
      The Kim reference was referring to trendy outfits. I should not have included
      Angelina Jolie-Pitt. Although only a few years older than Catherine, she too has learned to dress in more of a classic style.She often looks quite elegant.
      At least the leather jacket and piercings
      are a thing of the past.

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    6. Anon 1 - your assessment is right on point. There is her role to consider and also her personal taste. She prefers to look more classic than trendy. Some like it, some don't, but to be cruel about it is showing a lack of maturity. I guess that fits. I just wonder what keeps people who think she doesn't dress well, looks too old, wears too much make-up, is too thin, etc., etc., etc., coming back and following everything she wears and does. It is a mystery to me.

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    7. RobinfromCA: The cruelty is astounding. There is one blog in particular I check just to see how ridiculous the comments and even the content is. They bash her for everything. If her hair is down it should have been up but then when her hair is up it is wrong somehow. Every color is wrong on her. If she recycles an item she's being cheap but the prices of her new clothes are complained about. Her makeup is wrong, William doesn't love her, her own parents don't love her, and apparently she hates her children. Nothing she does is right. What is wrong with these people?

      I love this blog because Jane is a fantastic writer and her content is fabulous but also because the fashion commentary is appropriate. It's one thing to have an opinion about a color or pattern or whatever and to be able to discuss outfits without making personal attacks. I very much enjoy looking at pictures of her clothes and thinking about how I might look in the outfit or how it would be something I would never buy but it works for her. And I can get into a discussion about lace in the day time or how beautifully some garments fit and how others could use tailoring.

      But so many people make it so personal and just tear down every part of her. It's toxic and it makes me think that these people have low self esteem or some other issue that makes them be so hateful.

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    8. I have to agree with you on every account 4:24. Jane does a brilliant job of always being appropriate even if something isn't to her particular liking which is why this is the only royal blog I'll read. I think we can all talk about what we do or do not like about a specific fashion choice (the Peter Pan collar and I are not getting along right now) without being mean and attacking Kate personally.

      Here is what I wonder. . . how some of these people would like it if we put them under the microscope and talked about how their make-up looks, their messy hair on a windy day, or their over or under weight before we moved on to discussing their personal family relationships in the most negative way even though we've never met them. Then we can wrap it all up and put the big red bow of their financial or social status making them deserve the comments on top of it all. I think they wouldn't like those tables turned and should think about that before they write something so completely unfair about a woman they will never know.

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    9. Kate is NOT matronly. So many women think dressing young is wearing short skirts, showing cleavage or otherwise sexualizing an outfit - that is not dressing young, that is dressing inappropriately. In the US it is appalling to see how many middle aged women dress this way - it's not cute, it's not fashionable, it's just cheap and trashy. The fact that so many women adore the Kardashians over here is revolting to me, very sad, very very sad. Kate is the opposite of all that - she is more mature than that - she sees the bigger picture, she is a model of comportment and of style! I've never seen anyone radiate such charm and natural beauty as Kate, and her understanding of proportion, color, and fit far outshines that of anyone I see - including her own sister and mother who I think dress fairly garishly at times, and with awkward proportions and fabric combinations. Kate is truly great, a quiet super star, a future queen, an excellent mother and role model. She is anything but matronly.

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    10. Kate herself might not be matronly but some of the ensembles she has chosen have been a bit "off" - usually in either fit or fabric. I'm thinking in particular of the Catherine Walker she wore to the 2015 Trooping. There is a lot of room between that and some of the shorter hemlines and lower necklines that Kate herself has experimented with (in a very non-Kardashian way). She knocks it out of the park most of the time so an occasional "miss" is understandable.

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    11. So true, 7:58. Although, I don't think Carole falls into the other category but sometimes Pippa does.

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    12. Anon 1, talk about delivering an understatement! :) Role appropriate vs. age appropriate... Exactly.

      4:24 and Robin, it goes without saying that I agree with your comments here.

      7:58, well said. A fine, black cashmere turtleneck can be attractive and sexy vs. skin, skin, skin. And if a man doesn't appreciate the difference and prefers the latter scenario, well, I prefer a different man. ;)

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  26. Anon 5:42 hit the nail on the head..the difference in five years is astounding..Kate is still and will be for quite a time "in her prime". It is hard to imagine the cause for her looking so gaunt, so stressed and so much older. Anon 5:58..being "solidly in her 30's" should be a positive! Anyway, hopefully all is well and this is just a passing phase. (along with that dress)

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    1. She does not look tired to me. She has a very strict diet and exercise regime that has eliminated body fat. That shows in her face. People are making comparisons to her face when pregnant or when she was in her twenties.

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    2. I definitely meant solidly in her 30's as a good thing. She looks tired because she has two little kids. All my friends who have young children look the same kind of exhausted.

      Plus she has always loved the sun and doesn't seem seem to be using fillers. So maybe she has some wrinkles. She's a real human being and she looks like one.

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  27. Alejandra RamírezJuly 1, 2016 at 7:21 PM

    It was a really nice outfit for a very somber day.
    I agree that the dress has too many elements, but I really like it!
    It's not 100% for mourning nor 100% for a happy event, it is right in the middle :D
    Thanks for the info!

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  28. I'm pretty much on my own here, but I do not like that hat. At all. The outfit is ok. But, to me, she looks out of place in the picture with all of the others. Not only that but she blends into the gravel.

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  29. I hear ya, Jane. Something's not working for me here and I think it's the black/tan combo. I like the style of fr dress, I love the hat but that colour combo is really throwing me. Btw, this is apparently the same lace as her wedding dress?

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  30. An interesting article in the "Express" on line today about the three Gt. Gt Uncles of Catherine, one of whom died on the Somme' one in 1915 and one in 1917. They were the brothers of Catherine's Gt Gt Grandmother.who set up the trust which helped with the Middleton children's education.
    Standing at Somme memorials--or for that matter any other WW1 or indeed, those of WW2 will make anyone looked stressed and emotional.
    Most of us have done it privately, without the world's cameras on us. She never has that privacy

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    1. But she has many other things that ordinary people strive for every day. So give and take!

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    2. anon 11:23- ha! not meaning any disrespect, but that's kind of like saying,"So you're blind. At least you can hear." The one doesn't make up for the lack of the other.
      Constant scrutiny and loss of privacy are not neutralised by big houses and expensive
      clothing.
      Also, if that is what ordinary people strive for every day, that might be a source of dis-satisfaction. If you meant people strive for a loving partner and family, that is within the reach of most

      ps yes, I used an extreme example, hoping it will help some get the point.

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    3. I haven't seen that article, Jean. Thanks for sharing. I can imagine that it was a very emotional experience for Kate having a personal connection in that way. I'm a blubberer and I would not like to have my emotional experiences splashed in high definition across every newspaper in the world. To have such a personal experience then picked apart by the public has got to be tough.

      anon 11:23 - The Duchess is not without feelings just because of her privileges. She is a human being who should be allowed to mourn without criticism.

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    4. Of course, it doesn't make up for that. But she is not a victim either. She knew what responsibility and stuff come with William, otherwise she wouldn't pursue this rel.ship for so long. She lost and will lose many things but gained/gains as well. We could make a list and prioritise things such as love and famiyl etc. but at the end of the day life is still about give and take. At this point I do not know what else to say to you, should I feel sorry for her?

      Robin

      no one write a word about Kate having no feelings. Do not twist my words, please.

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    5. Robin did not twist anything. If Jean is pointing out the reality of Kate's position and how she was also honoring her own relatives with the world watching her every expression, and the response is that Kate has other things so it's give and take, then those feelings were dismissed.

      Can you imagine Kate going home after meeting and speaking with people who have unfortunate circumstances and saying to herself, well, at least they can go to Starbucks and not be photographed, so it's give and take. Any bets on someone calling her a cold [fill in the blank]?

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    6. Fish?
      Royalfan, I believe that's called hoisting them on their own petard. Turning the argument around.
      Have you got one for "She knew what she was getting into?" Or, "It comes with the
      territory?"
      Honestly, I think after awhile, the criticisms become rote to the point that
      logic and appropriateness become lost.

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    7. Not exactly where I was going, Anon 1 ;) , but I just laughed so loud that the kitties are wondering what's going on!!

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    8. P.S. I was referring to your "fish?"

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    9. Royalfan

      My gut reaction came to Jean's last sentence. Sorry if i didn't support the rest of her argument, I know you all like backing yourselves.

      One more thing, many times I read here there are lots of mean girling towards Kate, and I wonder in which category would you put your comments towards me aor anybody who does not share your logic and feelings.

      Fish or not to fish

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    10. Thank you, royalfan! That is exactly what I meant! And no, 6:10, you shouldn't feel sorry for her. You should treat her with the same respect with which you expect to be treated. I'm sure you've had hard things happen in your life but should we dismiss them by saying "Hey, you're not dead so it's give and take!" Or does that logic only apply to someone who has more money and position than you do?

      Let's see, anon 1 - "She knew what she was getting into." Kind of like getting into a pool and having someone hold her head under the water while she gasps for air. Hey! She knew what she was getting into. "It comes with the territory" because, of course, when you get into a pool you would certainly expect someone to hold your head under the water. It comes with the territory. May I quote Taylor Swift? "Haters gonna hate, hate, hate, hate, hate." Unfortunately, if Kate were to "shake, shake, shake, shake, shake" so she could "shake it off" she would be criticized for that too.

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    11. Give and take are a central aspect of royal life - you get incredible privilege but at the cost of privacy and personal choice. I wouldn't be surprised if every one of them had a momentary pang of envy (whether or not they every admitted it out loud) for those who can go to Starbucks without the glare of cameras - not because they lack feeling but because they are human. Kate went into her marriage with open eyes and clearly the "pros" and "cons" of being a royal wife work for her (much more so than Diana did) - it's not a judgment against her to acknowledge that. Harry's own love life has been influenced by the reality that for some women what "comes with the territory" doesn't work for them.

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    12. You have kittens?

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    13. I thought the "petard."
      That's the blessing of being completely out of sync with the vernacular-one
      can seem clever without effort.

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    14. Robin

      You are a stretch LOL

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    15. Robin, 12:19. I like the swimming pool analogy! You dive into a pool, yes you expect to get wet- it, ahem, comes with the territory. One does NOT anticipate ,nor should one, people
      attempting to drown one.
      Excellent!

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    16. 7:54- Harry's girlfriends learned from what happened to Kate.
      Expectations in becoming a royal wife:
      You will no longer go to church or Starbucks without being photographed.
      You don't expect your mother or nanny being snapped from behind barricades while they are accompanied by your children. You do expect your family and friends will be
      photographed at Wimbledon, however..

      If you rush ahead of the Queen, are rude or unkind on a walkabout, you expect to be
      criticised.
      You do not expect to be criticised for poor posture when stooping over to greet children or extending one's hand to greet a guest.

      You expect to be criticised if you wear pants to a garden party.
      You do not expect your lack of curves and proper underware to be discussed publically.

      There are degrees of reasonable and unreasonable fall-out from being a royal, as
      in any role.
      I realise "It's always been done" and I could go into detail with examples of things
      that have "always been done," but I won't, unless the concept of degrees of acceptability is not understood.

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    17. ps-it is illogical to comment at length on how much Catherine has aged-way beyond Mary and Letizia; how tired, stressed and strained she looks-then make remarks
      about how the pros and cons of being a royal wife are "working for her."
      (sorry, not sure which anonymouses you are, 7:54 and exactly which comments you
      personally made)

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    18. Anytime, Robin. :)

      Anon 1, yes, two kitties. Fun and adorable!

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  31. I thought Kate looked really good. I like the dress and hat. I am in general not a fan of lace dresses but I thought this one looked outstanding. Would love to know who made it. I am thinking McQueen, the bodice and peplum appear to be really well constructed

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  32. I think Kate looked nice here. This is not one of my favorite outfits, but surprisingly, I kind of like it. I've never been crazy about lace, and normally, I don't care for colors like beige or taupe, but the black lining works for me. I like the contrast in colors. But I have to agree with RobinfromCA that a rounded neck would have been much nicer. The Peter Pan collar almost ruins the entire look for me! Also, I much prefer when Kate wears her hair down. I know that many people like it when she wears her hair up... but not me.

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  33. Okay...I am late to this conversation...but here goes. Let me start by saying...I don't particularly care for lace or peplums...You would not be able to find either in my closet.

    And I hear what everyone is saying about Peter Pan collars....generally avoid those as well.

    But for some reason...this all works for me today. I find with a fashion you have to stand back and look at the whole and not just the parts. And today the whole was gorgeous. I thought she looked classy, elegant and every inch a royal. I too also think Kate is becoming more confident in her role. The black underlay made this dress interesting and different than her other lace dresses (which I have been so-so on) and the hat is perfect. To me a British Royal always needs to have a statement hat. This one totally fits the bill and picks up nicely on the black underlay.

    I also agree with the comments that she dresses for her job. No...she is not the Queen....but I think the last couple of months have shown that she is a senior member of the royal family and will be stepping up in terms of more responsibilities. There is a certain gravitas that comes with that. Every time she steps out the door...she is representing the Royal Family....probably the most well know Royal family across the globe. Think about that for a minute.

    The comparisons to Mary and Letzia are fair...as long as one considers there are subtle differences. I love both of those ladies style as well (and if anyone can recommend blogs that follow there fashion style I would be thrilled!). But Letzia is far to thin...unhealthy looking in my view. And her pairing of separates seems a bit of a mish-mash at times. But she does wear some beautiful suits (both skirt and pants..) which I wish Kate would try. Both of them do have more variety than Kate in their choices which I more interesting.... but as Anon 1 pointed out...Letzia is Queen and Mary is CP which I think means they don't worry as much about proving themselves capable of the job. They are also older and have been doing this longer. Kate is still new to the job (relatively speaking...) and still has other more senior royals (the Queen and eventually Charles...) who she has to account to. So from that perspective I can forgive her is she errs on the safe side.

    Anyways...back to today...like I said...not personal fan of lace..but I did think Kate looked elegant and classy.

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    1. Exactly Laura! Mary and Letizia do not have a "boss" so to speak. Kate has two of them! When she's Queen, if she wants to set a standard of wearing pant suits or short skirts then she can do that. She, William, and Harry are definitely the most famous royals the world over. Nothing compared to Diana's global fame and these are her offspring so it's natural. I think Kate is doing a splendid job of representing the BRF.

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    2. To add to the discussion here, it's also worth pointing out that both Letizia and Maxima were "next" upon their marriage. Kate is not. And Letizia, too, was more cautious and played it safer prior to becoming Queen; she had more basic navy pantsuits than I have seen any one person wear. And Maxima was welcomed by her in-laws and appears to enjoy a very loving and supportive relationship with her mother-in-law, PB. Kate's situation may be different from Diana's because of William, but she is still tip-toeing around some of the same issues that made Diana's life difficult.

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    3. Yes, royalfan. Trying not to steal focus has got to be a difficult balance for Kate because that is one of the big reasons Charles was so awful to Diana. I don't think the Queen cares but Charles seems to have a delicate ego and, let's face it, Camilla isn't going to steal any focus. Kate is very lucky to have the support she gets from William and, to an extent, Harry. Diana had no such support from the BRF after the first couple of months.

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    4. There is a photo/video that sticks in my memory, Robin, and comes to mind when
      royal egos are mentioned: in front of the church, I believe, Camilla dithering about over who goes first down the stairs. No one else seemed to be bothering, once the Queen and PP had gone down.

      Maybe it is just my perception, but in the Somme gravel photos-who is glaringly
      smack in the middle, immediately behind Charles and the French president?
      The PM was to her right-W&C&H should have appeared in the second row to Camilla's left.Instead, they were consigned to the third row.The British (and the Germans) bore
      the brunt of the losses that day.

      Picky? Yes. But these things matter greatly in their world.
      I'll have another look at the pictures.

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    5. I admit Anon1 I am not up on line-up /seating international protocol. But it does make sense to me Camilla is positioned near Charles. I am not sure that after the very first row (PC & Hollande)  the order represents battle losses vs represents current positions in the respective countries so I don't know if the trio should have been closer to the front. For example, let's say a representative of the US (the VP, a high-ranking cabinet member or even Obama) had attended to pay respects even though the US was not involved at the time of the battle. IF that person was included in the ceremonial line-up (and I'm sure Obama or Biden would have been) and honored guests were lined up according to battle losses, Biden/Obama would have been in the last row behind WK&H. If PC had not attended  then the US rep being behind PW or if he didn't come, PH (as the highest UK rep) would make sense. But I am not sure the US rep would have been behind the first, second, and third highest UK reps present and I'd think that would be true for other countries too. But I hope you post if you find more info about protocol. 

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    6. Exactly, Robin.

      Anon 1, I could write a whole post on photo analysis with this theme in mind. Ha! :))

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  34. Speaking for myself, this was a total fashion miss. I am sick-and-tired of lace, utterly fed up. Further, I did not like the peter pan collar or the puffed shoulders. How old is she, again? 4 or 34? Nor did I like the peplum. Ugh! Absolutely nothing about Kate's July 1st outfit did anything for me, not that hat which I have never liked, not the black suede clutch and shoes--out-of-season--, and altho theres nothing wrong with the earrings, they're getting a tad old/tiresome. Hopefully, this is a one-off and not indicative of the future--I wasn't expecting such a disaster, after a string of fashion wins. Whomever advised her needs to be ignored, going forward. And if it was Kate, herself, who chose this misbegotten outfit, then I would recommend that she sign up for one of those summer fashion courses, offered by Vogue.

    I do admit that the outfit was appropriately somber--politically correct for drab--given the occasion.

    On a much lighter note, I have dubbed this latest appearance of The Three Musketeers as The Battle of the Brollies; watching William and Harry gallantly jostling to protect Kate who wasn't issued an umbrella--they both were--was quite comical;their two brollies met in the middle, reminding me of two stags in rutting season. As a result, Kate wound up getting the drip, drip, drip from TWO umbrellas! And the moral of the story is: Forget gallantry, ladies, and demand your own umbrella.

    JC

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    1. Okay, JC, a gal can only do so much! I'm afraid I have stopped polishing the armor and will sign up for the Vogue fashion course because I truly like this outfit. :))

      On a more serious note, someone somewhere pointed out that the lace pattern is a palm leaf design. She is become a master at this! Kudos to the Duchess.

      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Palm_branch_(symbol)

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    2. I do believe that is why Kate likes lace so much. Most of her lace dresses have had a motif relevant to the occasion. I think it has become evident that Kate continuously makes these subtle choices which are always appropriate. I think that is important to her and it is how she represents the BRF.

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    3. Yeah, well. royalfan--and you, too, Anonymous @6:41, like this BRITISH royal family penchant for dressing their royal females in symbolic clothing; I, on the other hand, don't; I would prefer to see them dressed in flattering clothing of their choice--nothing really outlandish, of course, just flattering.

      I could be entirely wrong, but if I didn't know better, I would suspect that Angela Kelly (sp?), the Queens dressmaker, was responsible for this fashion miss; that lace, no doubt expensive, carried a terribly muddy colour, not white, not cream, not camel--the closest I can come to describing it would be a horrible combo of beige and brown. Wretched. And typical of cloth which might have been lying around in one of the Queens storerooms, being ignored.

      Let me know how that fashion course goes, royalfan; I might sign up for it myself, on your recommendation.

      JC

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    4. JC, IMO, Kate is well aware of what is acceptable, and expected of her, but I do not believe that she is told that she must wear outfit A or B...

      Do you recall this photo?

      http://www.zimbio.com/photos/Kate+Middleton/Royals+attend+Cutsem+wedding/GjvYIyOjWvB

      In my mind, this was simply more evidence that she was not the typical 20-something year old young lady and it had future princess written all over it.

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    5. Yes, royalfan, I do remember that outfit--thought, at the time, that it was terrible, nor have I changed my mind. I also wondered at the time if she had purchased it in some thrift/second-hand shop because it looked older than its wearer, and I still do. What you view as a future positive, I viewed with a more jaundiced eye, I suppose--I far and away preferred Kate in a bikini, to be honest.

      But it wasn't what Kate wore which captured my interest, it was something else and much as I have tried, I can't quite put my finger on it, except to rather lamely say that when you like someone--and we all have favourite people we've never met except thru the media, politicians, celebrities, sports stars, etc.--you like them. Sometimes, rarely, something much like that happens in real life, too; one day, you meet someone, and you just KNOW , a kind of intuitive recognition, that you've found a friend, and that they think so too.

      Neither Kate nor Pippa were very well-dressed, back in the day--think their parents more-or-less cut them off, financially, once they graduated from uni, forcing them to find a way to earn some money, altho Mike and Carole did provide all three with a shared apt/flat in London.

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    6. I do have to say that signing up for the Vogue fashion course might not be popular with everyone here as Kate was blasted over how they dressed her and did her make-up and eyebrows. That would certainly not go over well. Kate just needs to be Kate. If she likes this dress and felt comfortable wearing it for this occasion then, in the end, it doesn't much matter what anybody else thinks. But, I come down on the more positive side of this outfit sans the Peter Pan collar and, as always, the suede shoes.

      As for the umbrellas . . . they were too big to use at every seat. I noticed that a blanket was on every seat and an umbrella under every other seat. Kate just got caught in the middle.

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    7. We who objected to the Vogue creative directer's Catherine/Kate interpretation
      will attend within a Trojan horse, Robin.

      JC-I think you are a bit of a devil's advocate. A kind of Trojan horse, perhaps.
      I wonder if royalfan had said Kate's outfit was pretentious, you would have said, "Oh, but she has great aspirations to go with those pretentions. It is entirely
      appropriate." Or some such. ha!

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    8. I think sometimes we search a little too hard for "symbolism" in Kate's clothing choices. Some symbolic elements (and colors) we find likely are intentional (Polka dot dress to symbolize Diana when George was born, red dress for China dinner) And I am pretty sure she works hard to avoid "offensive" symbols, colors, and so on. Other times I wonder if we see more than is really there. If the motif on this lace is a palm, and if the palm is a symbol of martyrdom, and if this lace motif is the same as her wedding dress, do we really think she considered herself a martyr on her wedding day? I sincerely doubt it and I'm not even sure describing those who died in military battles as "martyrs" has been usual in western countries for a very long time as martyr carries a religious connotation, not service to one's nation.  


      However, other than the wikipedia reference royalfan 5:52 provided I can't find any reference to a palm meaning martyrdom anyway. In Christianity it may symbolize triumph and resurrection. In the Old Testament it may mean strength. On the high priestess tarot card it can mean fertility of the mind. And in some older middle-eastern cultures like ancient Egypt it meant victory or immortality. I guess most would work for the memorial event but not all work as well for a wedding. Plus, what about the motifs in all the other lace dresses she's worn? 


      When there isn't any readily available symbolic connection to be made, or there is one that possibly could be made but it would make no sense or be potentially offensive,  or the one that can be made is not quite a match (red/orange poppy dress when Bhutan's poppy is blue) we discount it. But when we find "matches" we point out Kate's love of symbolism. Sounds a bit like "confirmation bias" to me (i.e., accepting confirming data and discounting data that don't fit our belief or hypothesis)

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    9. Robin Simple and Clean (BTW, would it would be okay with you if I just stuck to Robin? itself simple and clean.) Should another Robin decide to post on this site, I would hope that she would be gracious enuf to dub herself Robin 2/too in order to differentiate herself.

      Yes, the outfit, minus the Peter Pan collar, would've been a big improvement--think of that name, and think of how old Peter and Wendy were!! when he enticed her to fly with him back to Never-Never Land. Hmm...that parallel gives rise to thought--the thought that we both may have missed Kate's sign. Is that where she thinks she is? And no wonder!

      Regarding the umbrellas, Robin, I knew that--just wanted to add a bit of fun to my post.

      Maybe its time for me to give up on nursery rhymes and fairy tales, given my mis givings over the following: Georgie Porgie, pudding and pie
      Kissed the girls and made them cry
      But when the boys came out to play
      Georgie Porgie ran away.

      That was the first thing that popped into my mind when Prince Georges name was announced--and all I could think of was the playground teasing poor George might be subjected to--and NOW, thanks to YOU, I have to worry about this whole Never-Never Land business!!

      JC

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    10. JC, I really need to clarify something here... My interest in Kate isn't based on fashion. Naturally, we discuss it here so I chime in with my opinion on an outfit or my overall view of how she is handling her role. Yes, I am a Kate "fan" but, initially, my interest had to do with William, as Diana's son.

      The first photos of Kate that I saw were from this event...

      http://www.gettyimages.com/pictures/kate-middleton-attends-the-festival-of-british-eventing-at-news-photo-108107012#kate-middleton-attends-the-festival-of-british-eventing-at-gatcombe-picture-id108107012

      I believe I understand the point you were making, because when I saw these photos, I sensed that Kate was a very special young lady with a kind heart and great potential. She had that "certain something". And the more I followed her and William's relationship, and read about the Middleton family, the more I liked her. I thought of her (AND her family) as the ray of sunshine in William's life that was lost when Diana died. And Kate has proven to be exactly that on so many levels.

      Lizzie, I understand and agree that sometimes people can "find" symbolism if they wish to, but I also believe that Kate doesn't always receive the credit she deserves for the thought behind, and intention of, some of her fashion choices.

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    11. I agree she's thoughtful. I was speaking only of the symbolism element. All of us are subject to confirmation bias..seek and we will find if we ignore disconfirming evidence and that seems to fit some symbolism discussions.

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    12. Well, lizzie, she wasn't really far off on that martyr thing on her wedding day, given the vitriol on line, including so-called fan sites, and in the press. Not to mention being jostled around the royal pecking order.

      However, I do agree with the spirit of what you said. I think SOME of the Kateisms are a bit contrived. I do think there are many intentional examples of Kate trying to relate to an event and its participants.
      I think the lotus features in the lace DG and the tiara were
      intentional nods to China,for example. I think the cloud dress and others she wore, especially for
      events with children, were intentional. If they were all coincidences-that WOULD
      be remarkable.
      By the way, the palm has many meanings to various cultures, including hope. I don't
      think she would highlight the martyr aspect-so I agree there. I think her use of French lace may have been the intentional idea, not necessarily the palm motif though. The palm was used to
      celebrate the Passover, a time of the salvation of the Hebrews, by the way.

      Besides, I prefer hunting for the positive rather than looking for anything and everything to criticise.
      I think Catherine is human and neither as perfect nor imperfect as some would claim.

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    13. Double standards huh

      If Anon would have written what JC had written (completely agree with your assessment, no offence meant to you JC), you would all hit the ceiling.

      You are all too funny.

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    14. JC, please, just call me Robin. All of the best people do! ;-) As to that nursery rhyme issue - you're going to have to work that one out on your own. :-D

      royalfan, you and I come at this from exactly the same point of view. My initial interest in Kate was because of William. I wanted to know all about her because I was concerned about his happiness after having lost his mother who taught him all of the best things about relating to people outside the royal world. After I learned about Kate - and her family - I was so happy for him. I was also so disappointed when they broke up! Thankfully, he recognized that she was perfect for him. Now, I really want the same thing for Harry. Having those boys be happy in their lives is the greatest legacy Diana will have left behind.

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    15. JC strikes me as a mature and intelligent woman. She is not shy about expressing her opinions, but she does take credit for them and, at the end of the day, she has Kate's back. No hidden agendas OR double standards.

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    16. Robin, we're definitely on the same page, including our crossed fingers for Harry's future. :)

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  35. I think this dress was handmade...and the poor sleeve cap construction and insert, has also been found in some of the Queen's dresses. The cap needs to be recut and more smoothly sewn. This is what really bothers me about this dress in addition to the too-long length. The colors make Catherine look old. But, hey, otherwise I like it.

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  36. Vasiliki Nousiou GreeceJuly 3, 2016 at 3:46 AM

    Why has no one mentioned the fact that the Duke and Duchess of Gloucester were also there???

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  37. Anon 1, on vacation with my family and the internet is iffy, so didn't get to finish the thread about James Middleton anf James V but, apparently, yes, James V did have blue eyes. I agree that its not just the beard but something about the eyes as well. Genetics is all very interesting.

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    1. George V, Faith? Tell those kids to give Mum a rest. ha!

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    2. Lol! Yup, George V

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