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Pippa & Carole Middleton Spotted with Wedding Dress Designer?

Friday, November 11, 2016

For some reason, I always get the bug to blog 24-48 hours before Kate has a scheduled event. So here we are on the cusp of back-to-back events, and I feel like blogging now. Meghan Markle took a week away from filming Suits and is in London with Harry, probably mapping out a strategy to keep some peace in her personal life. She was snapped shopping at Whole Foods in Kensington before heading back to Kensington Palace. 

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But, that isn't what I came to chat about today. Let's talk about Carole and Pippa! Everyone's favorite bride-to-be is still busy planning her fast approaching wedding. It was reported last month that Pippa will marry in May in her Bucklebury church with a reception to follow at her parents' home.
Very traditional and gracious. Whether that is true or not remains to be seen, but I suspect it will end up being accurate. We are already familiar with St. Mark's, Englefield, because when Kate has been home for Christmas, this is where she attends church with her family. 



You may recall that Pippa's phone was hacked and that thousands of photos were compromised. Although they were not published, apparently the pictures included photos of Carole and Pippa in a church nave, presumably scoping out wedding locations, and a picture of Pippa trying on dresses. Today, it has been reported that designer Giles Deacon spent two hours at Pippa's home and left with several opaque dress bags, so I think it is safe to say we know the designer of Pippa's dress. 


Deacon has a very creative sense of style, and a quick browse through his current collection reveals a range of designs and styles that could come together as a very elegant and unique gown for Pippa. Kate's royal wedding is a tough act to follow, and although Pippa won't (and can't) compete with it in some sense, she can put together a stunning event that is perfect in its own right. From the looks of it, Carole and Pippa are charging ahead to do just that. Speaking of Carole, she was at this little meeting and was photographed leaving looking chic as ever. (see here) I hope once she is done planning this second wedding we see both Michael and Carole out on the evening circuit a little more!


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  1. Sounds like loads of fun to plan this wedding! I hope we will get to see photos from the big day but I completely understand if they choose not to share. A Bucklebury wedding is exactly what I thought they would do as they seem to be a very traditional family. I really miss seeing Carole out and about.

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  2. Such exciting times for Kate and family! I love family weddings and gaining new family members through love...what could be better?! I come from a large family and every time a boy- or girlfriend was added it was a good thing. New personalities, new ideas and experiences, the more the merrier.

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  3. I believe Meghan is on a long hiatus from Suits. I commented that I thought there would be either a denial or announcement at this time. That press release may be the latter.I also suggested they get in the same country and that I hoped that Harry could "court on his on court."( If my wishes are coming true, I'll take that Mercedes now.) They need to spend day-to-day time together.It is fun to see pictures, but I'd be perfectly happy if the couple faded into the background into their own world. There's plenty of other stuff to focus on.
    A Buckleberry wedding sounds idyllic, but with some major logistic problems.
    I'm still betting on a wedding in Scotland.
    What if the dress is for Meghan? There's a thought. Ha! She'd be a gorgeous bride, as Pippa
    will be. I can see what might have prompted the Pippa/Harry rumors and why Harry strongly objected-legally-to them. If I hadn't been told that was Meghan entering KP grounds, I would have assumed it was Pippa.-(and if photo was from before Pippa's happy announcement.)

    Thanks for the surprise post, Jane. Much happier possibilities for comments.

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    1. She cannot be taking a long hiatus from Suites as they are starting to film the final season, so unless they suddenly write her out of the script she has to get back to filming. Harry is about to embark on a two week tour, so no doubt that is why she went to the UK.

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    2. Originally I read in I believe The Telegraph or Express that the show was about to go on winter break. They operate on a two season a year schedule. The only new information I could find is in tabs and gossip sites. I read everything from "the show is on a brief hiatus," to "she asked her boss for a week off to do something
      important," to "she was supposed to go to London last weekend, but scheduling
      conflicts got in the way." Harry leaves for the Caribbean "later this month."
      So, by all means. If you have exclusive knowledge of Meghan's filming shedule,
      cite your source.

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  4. Jennifer from the SouthNovember 11, 2016 at 10:51 AM

    Funny how Meghan wears Harry's QUITE well-known ball cap to "look undercover" to go grab some groceries from Whole Foods, which also happens to be in the path of the Daily Mail offices, who then happen to get the exclusive that Meghan is staying with Harry... because she was "spotted" although she clearly desperately didn't want to be seen WEARING HARRY'S BALLCAP.

    This girl is playing hardball.

    Surely Harry's advisors see it? William probably doesn't, but I'm quite certain Kate recognizes these tactics a mile away...

    I never thought I'd be so glad to see more Pippa news. I would strongly guess that the wedding is going to me much sooner than the projected May 2017 to lend an air of privacy around it, especially since the dress seems close to being done. My thoughts are truly around a Christmastime (December/January) wedding. We shall see, and I am dying to see what Pip's dress looks like. And I desperately want her to sell her wedding pictures to Hello! or Tatler. :)

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    1. Unfortunately, Jennifer I have to agree with you regarding MM. That is definitely not a "lying low" action. She wants to be in the news about this. Nothing discreet about any of her actions. I feel like she is not in it for him.

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    2. Jennifer from the South

      This is a legit question and I totally respect your views ans enjoy your comments.

      I have to ask however why you are so against Meghan. All of your comments are very anti this relationship and against Meghan. Why?

      I don't think we can automaticcaly assume that she is a gold digging not ashamed to put her life out there. Yes she posted some photos that in hindsight might not have been wise. Maybe she did want to have it known but I am not sure why this is so awful. Ok it is Harry but in the scheme of things she is just a girl and he a boy that seem to like each other very much. Just because he is a Prince doesn't mean that as a couple they want to hide it all. Harry has never been one to hide it all. For all we know he didn't care what she posted. If he did then it would have stopped months ago. It has not.

      I say good for them. I hope she is making happy. And he her. I do not understand why you are so negative and suspicious about her and her intentions.

      Honest question.

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    3. Jennifer from the SouthNovember 11, 2016 at 3:33 PM

      I was actually excited about Meghan a few days ago. I thought she sounded smart (Northwestern), interested in humanitarian work, etc. I thought that Harry was lucky to have found someone.

      What has significantly turned me off from her in such a short time period is her blatant PR strategy she is playing. It seems that she is playing off of aspects we all know about Harry - his huge heart and desire to protect someone he loves.

      Instead of not making a comment about her relationship with Harry when it broke, she posted spooning bananas and a puzzle with a pot of tea on her social media.

      According to eye witness reports, no one ever tried to gain entry to her house. There were a few photographers outside, but they maintained a respectful distance, as is the standard in Toronto. She is not some girl unused to press attention - she's an actress for goodness sake. She embellished or flat out lied to Harry to get him to act, to get him to protect her.

      And now she makes an "incognito stroll" to Whole Foods in London after she'd just announced that she was taking a week or so off from her show, wearing Harry's most famous ball cap, with a humanitarian bag on her shoulder, strolling right by the Daily Mail office and then using the main KP gates (when there are more discreet entrances) to make sure the whole world knows she is in London and staying with Harry, LOVES helping poor people, and bringing home dinner/groceries for him. This is an actress whose JOB it is to know how to play the press and social media game - she is not some girl from small town America who happened to meet and fall in love with a prince and hasn't a clue what she's doing. Meghan knows exactly what game she is playing, and she is making any press play that the Middletons staged, including Kate's famous "get him back" tour in 2007, look like very small potatoes.

      I don't know Meghan as a person and have no opinion on her personally since frankly I'd never heard of her before the story broke a few weeks ago, BUT I very much do not like this game she is playing. I am worried that she's in it for the title, and I think she is campaigning to be a princess, wanting the ring sooner rather than later, in a way that forces Harry's hand.

      I don't trust William or Harry enough to notice, but I do think Kate will have, and I think that Kate knows how to play this game incredibly well, and I think if Kate chose to do so, she could be quite the formidable opponent...

      I would be cheering for Harry and Meghan if Meghan hadn't made it so abundantly clear the past week what kind of PR game she is involved in, and every time I stop to give her the benefit of the doubt, she turns and just adds to it (read: today).

      I hope that helps clarify my position. I am not attacking her, and I do not dislike her. I am just pointing out, hoping to be a voice of reason amidst this "love story."

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    4. I second Diane's question. I don't understand the negativity. As I said on the last post. If Harry wants to pursue this relationship then I support him and am prepared to give her a chance.

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    5. Maybe she wanted to hide her face as much as possible, didn't have a suitable hat/cap, and borrowed one from Harry?

      Most of the Whole Foods re-useable bags have some kind of message on them.

      I'm still willing to give her the benefit of the doubt.

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    6. I wrote a post. My computer crashed.

      I wish them well. Harry isn't dense. He would see a lie. She is a girl in love. She shared photos. Like we all would. She has for months. If he was mad about that he did not say. He is not. He is crazy about her. Lets just let them grow. Harry needs a mate. I think Meghan is a good match. I think Harry does as well. Give them space

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    7. I agree with Jennifer from the South. Something is off with MM. I didnt know who she was before the story broke either but from what I'm reading it seems as if she's using the press to push Harry. I'd feel this way about any woman who employed the same tactics on any guy. If it's true I'm thinking it's better Harry be without this type of woman.

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    8. Jennifer from the south, I totally agree with you. Her tactics are blatant. She has a profession and a live style that depends a lot of publicity, one may say she makes her living from it. Whatever her motives, be it love, interest or self promotion, she seems to be clever and artful.

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    9. I totally agree with you Jennifer from the South. Something in my gut gives me the feeling that something is off. Can't quite put my finger on it. I think you summed it up quite nicely though. I too do not dislike her or wish her ill will. This doesn't change the fact that her being with Harry doesn't feel right. None of Harry's previous girlfriends ever dropped hints or anything. They did not promote their involvement with royalty. By MM doing so, just makes her look crass and disingenuous.

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    10. Kate a formidable opponent to Meghan? In what way? I'm confused.

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    11. I agree, I didn't have any opinions on Harry and his new girlfriend this whole time (I've always been more interested in W and K), but after I saw these pictures, my BS-ometer went off. This is so obviously a stunt/statement that it is painful. She may as well have ran through Trafalgar Square with a bullhorn screaming "Look at me! I'm dating Prince Harry!" (His cap, walking up to KP as brazen as please! Give me a break!) Have some class and discretion, Meghan and you might have a better chance of getting what you are SO desperately gunning for.

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    12. If she's not supposed to walk through the entrance to KP how is she supposed to get in and out? Secret tunnel? Car with blacked out windows? Wouldn't that open her up to accusations that she is acting a bit grand and getting ahead of herself?

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    13. No one would see her get in those ways anon 9:33, so no accusations could be made. The main point to this discussion of her intent is that she walked all over London in the one item of clothing that everybody associates with Harry. Does she not have a hat of her own? Couldn't she have chosen a less recognizable hat of Harry's? This is the instagram of the bracelet all over again. Also, even if her intent is innocent, perceived intention is something she needs to be aware of. Kate learned this very early on.

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    14. And maybe she just doesn't care what people think and simply popped out to the grocery store wearing her boyfriends hat. Maybe she didn't have one and grabbed the closest one on her way out the door? Maybe she and Harry are choosing to live their life as normally as possible?

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    15. But they aren't normal and they need to think about these things.

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    16. To: Diane Brown, November 11, 2016 at 1:32 PM

      You voiced the same curiosity that I'd been wondering about. I don't know why some people will turn, what I see as an innocent situation, into something so negative. I never became suspicious of Meghan's cap nor her motives. All that I saw was a young girl, who is probably in love, walk to a nearby grocer to purchase a few supposedly healthly foods, and who obviously felt like wearing the object of her affection's cap. -Nothing more.

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    17. You guys would make lousy PR people. She is marketing herself as Harry's gal and there is nothing subtle about it. Is it a big deal? No, not really but it is something we are not used to seeing with the BRF. Very American. Very Hollywood which I guess we shouldn't be surprised by.

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    18. Anon 7.26 when did this become a PR blog? It is a fashion blog and now and then we discuss this kind of news. I am not here to discuss the PR business. Nor am I here to discuss how MM is handling her PR. Who cares? It is a flipping ball cap and the world implodes. Come on now ladies give her a break. You protest too much.

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    19. And before William married Kare we weren't used to seeing the BRF family marry commoners Anon 7:26, so I guess times change....

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    20. Anon 9:13- what is actually your idea of the meaning of "commoner?" Does it mean not directly related to a royal family and
      does the term include the aristocracy? If the former, I think the queen's mother, George Vi's wife, a member of a minor aristocratic Scotish family, was a commoner. Also, Diana, Charles's first wife, although an aristocrat, not a royal. His second wife, married in 2005, well before W&C, was certainly legally a commoner, although rumors persist of a royal relation..Mary, George V's wife had a distant BRF kinship-, I believe, through her mother. Alexandra, Edward VII's wife was a member of the Danish royal family.
      Other than that, if "commoner" means neither royal nor aristocrat, we have Sophie, a commoner, marrying Edward years before W&C married. I believe the Gloucester and Kent wives were neither royal nor aristocracy. And, of course, the heir's commoner wife.

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    21. This story really blew up in the few days I've been away. After reading all of the comments I think the reality of the situation, as usual, falls somewhere in between the extremes. I do think that Meghan, a barely known actress until now, is playing a Hollywood PR game. Being a Hollywood actress is what turns me off of her. Hardly anybody here had ever heard of her until she started dating Harry and it's probably a pretty good bet that the world press had never heard of her until now. However, Harry may not care that she's doing what she's doing so, whatever. But, I've lived in CA my whole life and have been around people "in the business" quite a bit. Trust me, nothing she is doing has been done without knowing exactly what the response will be. She's got a manager and an agent who know exactly what her every move is and it's their business to make sure she gets the most out of it and do damage control if needed. If they were caught by some long lens while being somewhere private that would be a different story but this stroll to the market is calculated. Hollywood actresses have to have incredibly thick skin - good for her relationship with Harry - but they also have gigantic egos - not so good for the long haul.

      BTW, I never thought Kate or the Middletons were calculating. She and William were so young when they met and they went through the maturing process together. Did Kate go out wen she and William broke up? Of course! Did she secretly hope that, since the press were following her anyway, that William would see that she could carry on her life? Who wouldn't?! She's made no secret of the fact that she was not happy about the break up. Remember, they were only broken up for a couple of months so the press were still hounding her every move just like they did with Chelsy and Cressida. If Harry and gotten back together with one of them would everyone call them manipulative? Looks like it since Kate can't shake the label even all these years later when she's proven to be a loyal, besotted wife and a good mother. The poor Middleton family has had to go underground to shake criticism.

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    22. anon 9:13- Sophie, Camilla, Autumn. Zara's husband.Anne's husband.I believe the Kent and Gloucester wives. In fact, more commoner BRF spouses than royal in the past 100 years.
      I had a longer, lost comment with more examples,depending on your definition of "commoner."

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    23. By "commoner" I meant not an aristocrat and did not mean it as a criticism or sleight at all! I was thinking of the references to the Middletons middle class roots that were discussed around the time of her marriage. I was trying to say - apparently somewhat inarticulatey - that we might not be "used to seeing" something but there's a first for everything. Meant it as supportive of both Kate and Meghan.

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    24. Well ladies, I tend to go along with this being an attention seeking tactic. The baseball cap alone wouldn't convince me, but can anyone appreciate how out of place it is for someone to walk through those PRIVATE gates with grocery bags??? If she had her own place in London or was staying with a friend and returned with groceries I'd file it under "it's HER life and business", but this looks silly. I wonder if she would do this at home. ;)

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    25. Get groceries and walk in the front door at home? Kate has been photographed grocery shopping and even after she was married! They have to eat so why hide?

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    26. 10.03, I meant would she walked the same distance with groceries back home where there was nothing to prove. And yes, Kate was photographed grocery shopping but not under these circumstances; she lived in London...she was not walking through the gates of Clarence House immediately after the relationship was confirmed and a formal request for privacy was issued.

      People shop and they eat. I get it. But this a wee bit unnecessary.

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    27. You're right - In their early relationship Kate was living with William so they shared a front door and her entrances and exits (with groceries or otherwise) were protected thanks to the agreed upon press embargo for Williams university days.

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  5. These pics of Meghan make me nostalgic for the pap photos of Kate back in the day when she was just Kate. Some of my favorite photos of her were taken during that time when she had fewer restrictions on how she dressed, etc.

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  6. Thanks for the extra picture of Carole. She is just such a total class act!

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  7. You may have a point, Jennifer. Although, I remember my boyfriend giving me a shirt of his as we said our good-byes when I left for University. Sometimes I wore it to feel closer to him.
    There is everything to gain and nothing to lose by giving her a chance to grow into the situation.

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    1. PS-what if she Is flaunting her connection to Harry a bit?I imagine Mary,Letizia, Sophie, Sofia, Mett-Marit, Charlene, Máxima, and yes Kate had moments in their courtships when they thought, "Look at me, I'm Sandra Dee." It's human. They all learned the need for discretion and so will Ms.Markle, if she is in it for real.

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  8. Ha, I read anon 1's comment as "You may have a pint, Jennifer."
    Like a reward for a good thought...

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    1. Good pick up, Kaye! Maybe we should all have a pint 🍻 or two! 👍

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  9. Ha Kaye. She'd probably rather have the pint.

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  10. Her alleviating poverty bag is ironic considering she is involved with one of the richest and most privileged families in the world.

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    1. It's just a shopping bag and a fairly typical one for whole foods at that. Is she supposed to pick and chose the shopping bags offered to her based on how the words splashed across it may or may not be interpreted in connection with her dating life?

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  11. The pictured young lady could be anyone. but if it is Ms.Markle,I can think of no reason why she should not go out to shop.
    Not quite sure which day that photo was taken, but presumably either Thursday or Friday, but Harry had engagements both days.
    Harry is not stupid: he will soon catch on if she is not sincere.
    Meanwhile he doesn't need instruction from any of us. I am sure that if it becomes necessary, there are plenty of advisers to do their job.
    Glad to know there is one place where Pippa can look at or try on dresses and know she cannot be overlooked.

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  12. Jane! I find it so funny that you get that urge to write a post 24-48 hours before a Kate appearance because I get an urge for Kate/Middleton news 24-48 hours before too! Thanks for not letting me down;)

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  13. But the same could be said about MANY people and their causes so that seems a little unfair Anon 3:10. W&K&H advocating for people to have resources for treating mental illness? They all have the best treatments in the world available for themselves and their families. I'll avoid current politics but members of the uber-rich and privileged Kennedy clan advocating for the down-trodden? Hollywood voices and their opinions about just about everything ? (global warming talk and using private jets for one)  Plus it doesn't appear MM developed this interest AFTER meeting Harry.

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  14. I know it sounds ironic but the more conscientious rich advocate for causes because they have
    the resources to do so. The Bill Gates Foundation. Paul Newman's Hole in the Wall camps for children with special needs.
    I don't think it is fair to cast doubt on their humanitarian efforts any more than it is to assume
    a person carrying a logo bag is doing it for show.

    I know I've mentioned this before, but I have always admired Jennifer Garner for refusing
    to hide herself and her children away from public areas because of the paps. They go to Whole Foods and to the park. There may be security in the background. I don't know. I'm not even sure this is a legitimate comparison to the royals and family, who likely face much
    greater threat.
    A note about seeking mental health care-lack of funds isn't always the barrier. The wealthy and well-known
    often have an image to maintain and seeking assistance may be used against them. In these days of camera phones and the internet, and an intrusive press there is no privacy.
    You or I could seek help and maybe a few would notice. If a politician, physician, teacher, or royal does, it becomes a matter of public discussion and a potential loss of position.
    Money isn't the solution for everything.
    The WCH effort focuses on people not being ashamed of seeking help. A big part of their efforts is motivating to get help and removing the stigma from mental health issues.
    Get people talking. None of that involves wealth.

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    1. Very well said anon 1

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    2. Jennifer from the SouthNovember 12, 2016 at 7:52 PM

      Anon 10:02, Jennifer Garner is very adept at keeping pictures of her children out of the press / keeping her family unavailable to the press when her husband isn't campaigning for an Oscar and when it doesn't suit her family's publicity schedule. Those who can recognize these things know that she taps the press when it suits her. I am not trying to turn this into something about someone else, but it's amazing how celebrities - Jennifer Garner and Meghan Markle included - can avoid the press 😜 when they want to. And Meghan could have come and gone to London totally without being seen. She could have been totally undercover the whole time. Instead, she was strategically seen so that the whole world knew what the "important business" was that she had to ask time off for from Suits earlier in the week. She wasn't going to Twickenham in an official capacity (although I won't be surprised if it leaks that she was there in a suite/box under cover) so she needed to make sure people knew where she was, staking her claim.

      I am thoroughly unimpressed by her PR since I recognize the playbook as the standard US model. But I am interested in where the relationship goes...

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    3. Ben and Jennifer are divorced. She has been seen out recently alone with the children and as a family walking to church. I don't know what Oscars you refer to. Isn't that in January? Of course there are times for privacy, such as visiting friends and extended family-no need to involve them. She has been interviewed and spoken of her wish to give her children as normal a life as possible.

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    4. Agree, anon 1, on Jennifer Garner. There are a lot of photos of her taking her kids to movies, playgrounds, shopping, dropping them off at school. She's a mom first and "Jennifer Garner" second. I admire that. I never knew what she saw in Ben Affleck but wasn't surprised when it broke down - just surprised at how long it lasted in the first place.

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    5. Robin-I value your input because I think you have reason to have more insight into the Hollywood scene than I or perhaps others here.
      Jennifer is one of two or three I really like and pay attention to.

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    6. Thank you, anon 1. It's not like I'm "in the biz" or anything but have seen and heard much from behind the scenes. There are very few big names I pay attention to in Hollywood but I like Jennifer Garner and I like Jennifer Aniston. Maybe because they are both nice girls who were married to big jerks. They've handled their fame and their headline-making break-ups well. I haven't heard any first hand accounts about Julia Roberts but from the 2nd or 3rd hand accounts I've heard she is also very nice - but extremely professional with an intolerance for people who are unprepared. Best "nice guy" in Hollywood definitely goes to Jay Leno.

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  15. Ms Markle wasn't at the Rugby match with Prince Harry today---Princess Caroline of Monaco was.

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    1. Prince Albert's wife Charlene, not his sister Caroline, was sitting with Harry.

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    2. They were playing and won Charlene's former country, South Africa.

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  16. I just feel there is a lot of negativity about this young women by so many who say they never heard of her before this all came out and now some seem to know all about her amd her motives.

    Give her a break. I hope she is sincere. I do not think Harry is stupid in these matters. Given who he is I would say he is a master at reading who is there for him and who ua there for what they can get. This is why he and William have a tight group of friends. I don't know if this will last but I find it rather like bullying to make assumptions about her when she is an unknown to all that speak about her.

    I agree that zipping around in a black car with blacked out windows would be over top. She went to get groceries. Is she supposed to go in the back door to avoid the DM?

    I watched a video of her on a well known late night talk show from a few yrs ago and I was very impressed with her. She was kind amd down to earth. Funny and presented herself very well.

    Time will tell. I really wish that the negative vibe would end. Discussing the possibilities is one thing. But I dislike it when women tear down other women. JMHO

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    1. Diane..I am entirely with you on this. I have been trying to let the negative comments about MM go but they have been bothering me. I couldn't understand why. I kept telling myself to just ignore them and move on. I mean..it is not like MM is a personal friend. Why does it matter to me what people say about her?? But for some reason they kept creeping back into my thoughts.

      Finally I figured it out. And it is exactly what you said Diane. It bothers me when women tear down other women. There is so much negativity already. I truly believe that strong women support and stand behind other women. The truth is none of us really know what happened between MM and the media at her home. None of us know what Harry and her relationship is like or where it is at. We are seeing very small snippets of their reality based upon media reports, a few instagram posts and the KP press release. Everyone is entitled to form their own opinions ...that is each of yours right. But I would ask....instead of using your opinion to form negative views.....why not take the high road, give this lady the benefit of the doubt and wish Harry and her both the best. There will more then enough criticism levelled at her from the general media. We saw Kate go through it. I am going to choose to use my voice to for the positive - to support a woman who could partner with Harry to do a lot of good in the world.

      Will get off my soap box now. Moving on. Can't wait to see Kate wow us tonight.

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    2. Well said Laura in Canada! You said it so much better than I ever could have written!

      I am 100% in agreement!

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    3. Laura, I think the issue with this whole thing is appropriateness. The relationship is new and only just confirmed by Prince Harry. Had they been seen together in public before she started wearing tributes to him out and about on her own, this would FEEL
      better. Done this way it FEELS conniving and indiscreet. How things look to the public is as important as how things actually are. Women don't need to support other women just because we are all women. We can voice concern when things do not seem right, and voicing concern does not equate negativity or lack of support. Also, I'm
      willing to give her a chance but, so far, it hasn't started well.

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    4. Pretty sure how Harry feels and how Meghan feel are more important for their relationship than how you feel

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    5. Ladies, if this is Harry's soul mate and she truly loves him, then I say God bless. But what I, and others, are not too keen on is that her actions appear to be in conflict with Harry's plea for privacy. If she had her own flat in London and was returning from the store, I'd say it's HER life and business, but this was a bit obvious. I sincerely hope that HARRY is her priority, and not the world knowing that she is dating him.

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  17. I get the feeling Harry and Meghan are in this together, it isn't Meghan doing things on her own that Harry didn't know about in advance. It seems the relationship has progressed to the point that they were ready to go public, and so they are. I'm happy they had months of privacy. At first, I thought it was an odd match, but the more I read about Meghan the more I think this just might work.

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    1. I agree. As I said above in my first post I think Harry has no issue with what she has done. Ahe has been posting in her IG for months. He knows what she is doing and I think he is ok with it all.

      If she is as savvy as everyone keeps saying in her attempt to nab the Prince I think she is smart enough how NOT to lose him. I am pretty sure they have discussed the press and what is and is not appropriate. Chelsey and Cressida were young girls. Both moved in the same circle. They were not advertising the relationship because everyone knew anyway. They didn't really have an adult life before meeting Harry. MM is 35. She has a life. She has her own travel blog. She post on both accounts about her life. Why should she not post anything about a trip to London? Why should she hide her wrist? I mean she is a grown up. This is a grown up relationship not a HS fling where the parents are kept in the dark. In my view he knew full well that she posted. He didn't care. I think this might be his very first adult relationship. Equal partners. Both with some life experience. Both know what it is like to have the press on your tail. I do not think she has done anything inappropriate. I drink tea. I do puzzles and I do have an elephant teapot. So what? You can take any picture and twist it into anything that you want it to be. I mean even the shot of the 2 rescue dogs are getting picked apart? Seriously?

      There are many ways she could have exposed this to the world and she did not.

      Also I am not saying women need to always support other women just because they are women. But I think when you judge someone you do not know and have bits of info from the press it is not fair to judge anyone. Women get it from every angle and I think we should be supportive of her because we really do not know anything. It is so similar to the attitude Kate endured for years ... mainly from other women. She was beat upon daily.... I didn't like it then and I do not like it now. Imagine having people writing about you as someone with an agenda when you simply wanted to cook a meal for your BF. I would bet that 98% of the ppl she walked by or in the store didn't even know it was her.

      Can't we just be happy for them? The prospect of a new addition at some point? I refuse to judge her until she has done something wrong ...if ever. Spooning bananas are not enough to go on about. That may be a pvt joke bwt them. So what.

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    2. Diane, Kate rarely if ever set a foot wrong. This is the BRF we are talking about. Their middle name is discretion. I don't recall any member of the BRF or their significant other posting allusions to
      their relationships on social media. It isn't done. If she wants public support, she needs to appear not to be flaunting
      their relationship. I agree that many of her posts probably have nothing to do with Harry but now that the world knows she is his gf, everything she posts will be analyzed. It comes with the territory and they both need to adjust their actions with scrutiny in mind.

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    3. Thank you Diana for articulating that so well.

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    4. Anon 3:52 - Kate dated William before social media was even a thing so of course she didn't set a foot wrong on Instagram. You have no idea how Kate would have handled things of their courtship happened now. And some people *did* think Kate was "indiscreet" when she was photographed at that charity roller derby following her breakup with William (among other London outings that aren't consistent with her current lifestyle).

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    5. Anon 3.52

      One must remember that Kate is British. She is and was aware of how things were supposed to be handled. it was also many years ago and the world has changed much. She was also in college and young when it began.

      I think anyone who thinks a 35 yr old woman is supposed to shut her life down just because she is dating a Prince (who is not next in line as William was).

      I don't think MM has put a foot anywhere much less done it wrong. She is living her life. Harry is well aware of her life. If he isn't upset and he has not dumped her then to me he is onboard. And she is staying at KP. I suspect if Harry did not want her to show herself she would not have walked to the store. Come on now. Why would she do something like that if it wasn't allowed?

      As to the cap. For all we know he has 12 of them. Maybe he gave her one. I just find it laughable that so many are flipping out about her wearing a brown cap. I mean do you really think that she thought "I am going to put on this cap and I am going to strut by the DM and let the world see me"! A deliberate act. No I think he had a event. She planned to make dinner. He said "run over to Whole Foods if you like" if he wanted it hidden she would have not gone nor would she have walked into the front gate.

      Harry does not care if the world knows. He has never been this open before. Women have stayed at KP before. Mainly under cover of darkness. Not this time. The first clue to me IS that she (and he is ok) is sharing posts of them and their life. Like all ppl do. Yes it is the BRF but the family is moving into the real world and this is another example.

      And for goodness sake why must she be compared to Kate? William and Kates relationship was different and he was heir. Big difference. Harry is going to do things his way. Good for him! Go for it!

      If MM was stepping out of bounds you can bet it would have already been sbut dowm with the first post MONTHS AGO. It has not. Leave them alone to discover each other. This kind of constant negative talk is exactly what Harry asked people to NOT DO. If you are so afraid for him and wish him well then do what he asks. He likes her. The constant chatter could destroy them. Let us be kind and not judgemental.

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    6. And one more thing... flaunting it? No .... I have not seen one thing that was flaunting the relationship. I have flaunted a relationship and it was much more in your face than a IG post or a walk to the grocery store. Hiding makes it secretive and somehow appear that something is wrong or needs to be hidden. It is out. So why hide? No need...

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    7. I think you are being naive Diane. William and Kate were not dating that long ago, and the BRF had not changed much since then. MM does not need to hide and she can walk all over London looking like herself if she wants. However, pretending to be incognito wearing a very conspicuous hat smacks of another game altogether. Also, if the constant chatter destroys them, then she is not the one. There will always be constant chatter and they will need to rise above it like Will and Kate.

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    8. In the photos she is wearing a hat and also rain boots. What was the weather that day? Might she have been wearing a hat to protect her hair from the elements rather than trying to be "incognito"? Anyone from London who can weigh in on the drizzle situation?

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    9. Harry had a number of engagements. Do we even know that Harry was at KP when she made her trip? He may have been out and about, too.

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    10. No one has ever called me naive Anon 9.32

      Let's just agree to disagree. I am done discussing this at this point. Time well tell. I have no idea if she is the one or not. I am just going to sit back and watch without judgment or assuming that she is some kind of gold digging social climber. I think Harry is smarter than that to allow any woman to get that close with some kind of motive.

      I tend to think people are good and without ulterior motives. Makes life happier. Constantly looking for some kind of problem or reason for behavior is not healthy for me. Nor is it fair for others.

      Go do your thing MM. Forget the naysayers and haters. They will always stir the pot looking for faults. Sometimes finding that kind of fault in someone without proof smacks of a persons own perception of their own reality.




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    11. Anon 9.32 I am too old to be naive but not so old to be a cynic. I just see a lot of negative threads here. Why must we have to find some flaw? It like some are digging ....trying to find some clue in everything. I mean what next.... go through her garbage and omg she used plastic? And then a dissertation on how awful she is for using plastic and the planet and poor sea creatures?

      Give it a rest! I am happy that perhaps Harry is happy...just for today. Let him be happy.

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    12. Sorry Jane not sure why feel so compelled to speak here but ~

      To me this smacks some of the cool kid group in HS who are making some girls life a living hell because the quarterback likes her...the arty girl over the head cheerleader. LOL

      I mean maybe MM is not what some expect or think Harry should be with? I mean he could find a Princess Stephanie of Luxembourg. Noble family. Educated. Pretty smile. But about as interesting a ls a bowl of beans. That would never do for Harry. He needs someone who has some sparkle and shine. Bland is never going to fly.

      Sorry Stephanie I know you are a lovely young woman. However about those clothes...oops wrong blog LOL

      Chelsey was the first love. I like her too and alwaya hoped they would work it out. I think not as the time flies. Cressida was too young. MM has many of the attributes that he seems to like and need. Marriage? Too early. But like I said let them be happy ....just for the day and maybe tomorrow 😊

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    13. Diane-a- ....no need to rummage through Her trash-plenty of trash to rummage through out there already.
      What? You found Styrofoam takeaway containers? Ha!
      I'm afraid it will get worse before it gets better.
      In other news-
      Sophie and Edward just missed an impressive earthquake in New Zealand. Real effort
      for them to appear last night. I think Sophie looked very nice in h
      er lace. I liked her specs. Perhaps Kate was wearing lace under that coat, saw all the others' lace, and decided-too much of a good thing. :) I like the blue and black dress paired with the coat in the designer photos. One of Kate's favorite color combinations.
      Alexandra was classic and elegant, as always.
      Missed Harry with his family. I know he was out and about the last two days, but he
      always adds a bit of humor to these solemn occasions.

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    14. HA! Diane! You really brought back my HS days. I was the nerdie/science-club/thespian the QB asked out-only he would either approach through his letter jacket wearing friends-"If he asked you..." or spoke to me when he was surrounded by them. Yes,teenaged girls can
      be quite spiteful. Unfortunately, so can we adult women. There may be a little boy locked away in each man, but I think also a "mean-girl" lurks in the shawdows of many, if not most, women.

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    15. You know, IMO, the best thing that could happen to the BRF is another Stephanie of Luxembourg. Someone with a strong sense of duty, intelligence,with intellectual, moral and spiritual depth. What does it matter if she isn't breathtakingly beautiful, and has no fashion sense? She has the strong personality that a country can trust and rely on.She reminds me of Sofia of Spain, the most popular member of the SRF. Much more popular than her young, beautiful, fashionable, daughter in law. No celebrity, no glamour, but the real thing.
      But then, Harry seems to prefer the glamorous party girl type...

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    16. I think Sophia is related to Prince Phillip through his Greek roots. I think Sophia resides in London.

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    17. Queen Sofia of Spain resides in Spain.Her brother, King Constantine of Greece resides in London.

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    18. She must visit him frequently for extended periods of time. She and her husband
      are not, as they say, together, apparently.

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  18. Freudian slip, 4:27?
    DianA
    Read Diane's (and Laura's) comments again and imagine his Mum wrote them.
    As I said earlier, we have nothing to lose and everything to gain by extending compassion, or at least reserving judgement.
    Time will tell soon enough.

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    1. Anon 1 I am used to being called Diana :) typically anyone who speaks Spanish or Italian or Portugese.... or the like call me Diana. When I lived in Texas the HR Dept entered me into the system as Diana Brown. Taxes payroll my business cards. LOL

      However way back in the day when Diana first hit the scene the docs all called me Lady Di.... I loved that hahaaaa

      But yes....compassion .... a must.

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