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Kate Misses the Mark at Festival of Remembrance

Saturday, November 12, 2016

You know what a Pinterest fail is, don't you? BuzzFeed has a whole subcategory of posts that feature side-by-side photos of the perfect craft project on Pinterest and the less than perfect results when crafters try the project at home. Regrettably, Kate's ensemble tonight at the Royal Albert Hall was an analogous fashion fail.



The couple were joining the Queen for the annual Festival of Remembrance at Royal Albert Hall. Senior members of the BRF attend, as well as government dignitaries. New Prime Minister Theresa May is visible on the left of this picture. The performance is always a moving tribute to the fallen, so it is quite a somber evening and all the ladies wear black.

Royal British Legion

My first objection to Kate's ensemble is that the duchess never took the coat off! My Twitter pleas that someone at the Royal Albert Hall discreetly boost the heat fell on deaf ears, and Kate stayed bundled throughout the program. In recent years, she has moved away from her early habit of never, ever taking her coat off at events. Although I don't necessarily object to her keeping her coat on when the situation is appropriate, tonight was most certainly not one of those occasions. The Royal Albert is a plush and elegant venue. It is cozy and warm. Not the place to stay swaddled up as if ready to dash at a moment's notice. 


All the ladies around Kate tonight looked perfect, in fact, they all seemed to be taking a leaf out of Kate's playbook from just last year. In 2015, on her Festival of Remembrance debut, the duchess wore a lace Dolce & Gabbana that suited the evening to a T:



Tonight, new Prime Minister Theresa May, Kate's aunt-in-law, Sophie Wessex, and the Duchess of Cornwall were all wearing lovely lace ensembles. (Those are Kate's Oscar de la Renta earrings)


When are we getting to the Pinterest fail, you ask? Now. This coat is drop-dead gorgeous. Look at it here in a product shot from Temperley. From the label's pre-fall 2014 collection, the coat is in a luxe black jacquard and features a retro styled mock-neck with pleats at the waist that give the skirt an almost balloon effect. It is oozing with the same class and sophistication as its namesake, Maria Callas. 

The "Callas"

It's breathtaking. Look at the back!

The Callas
The mock-collar is meant to draw the eye to a graceful neck, as demonstrated here:



But, on Kate, all that perfection is lost. There were two primary factors to this fail. I know everyone loves her hair tonight, but when a coat is deriving quite a bit of character from the neckline, sweep those luscious locks up in an elegant chignon, or even a bold bun. Instead, with her bouncing curls loose across the front of the coat, Kate obscured the detailing and looked stuffy and suffocating.



The second problem is that the lighting just isn't good. This coat is black and all the details of the jacquard and the pleating blend together in the shadows of the Royal Albert Hall. It would be a more successful coat in the clear light of day, which begs the question, why didn't she wait and wear this tomorrow? It's like she got her calendar of ensembles out of order.



I was really hoping for a winner tonight, so it gives me no pleasure to say that the verdict is a miss. I hope this coat gets the recycle it deserves sooner rather than later, but tonight Kate kind of let it down. It just wasn't the right event. [Looking for ensemble IDs? See the Kate's Clothes entry here for full details.] To give you a boost before I say goodnight, this coat is named after Maria Callas, one of the most remarkable opera stars in history. Callas has a very unique voice, which is instantly recognizable in recordings. She is so moving and her voice so powerful, that she holds up against modern, high-definition albums. I love Callas's rendition of "Vissi d'Arte" from Puccini's Tosca. The despairing heroine...
I lived for art, I lived for love,
I never harmed a living soul!
***
I donated jewels to the Madonna's mantle,
and offered songs to the stars and to heaven,
which thus did shine with more beauty.
In this hour of grief,
why, why, Lord,
ah, why do you reward me thus?
Opera. Can anything else express human emotion so viscerally and yet so ethereally? Just stunning. I hope you enjoy this recording, have a wonderful night, and I will see you tomorrow! I know Kate will knock it out of the park... :)


113 comments:

  1. First peek?
    Fabulous! Her hair is amazing and darker. I prefer the darker color as it makes her eyes pop!

    Thanks for the quick post!

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  2. I'll add to this if and when there are more pics, but first, what is with the coat? She looks so out of place, especially on the balcony. Some of the pics she seemed a little glum too. As if someone picked her up for an unexpected date and she put on a dark coat hoping it would pass muster. Everyone else is in proper dress, I don't get it.
    With the hair down and lack of accessories it really doesn't suit such a prominent and national evening event - and one with Her Majesty in attendance to boot.
    If new pics come in and she's removed the coat and looks spectacular I take it all back!

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    1. She does look glum. Or tired? Or ill? OR... 🍼

      Edward looks like he is asleep in some photos. LOL

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    2. It's not an evening to look upbeat. Very poignant evening. Coat is lovely and she does have something black on underneath, but elected to not take the coat off. That is her choice and it could be for a myriad of reasons. Not worth getting hot under the collar over it.

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    3. I think she looks fine, not glum tired or ill. Nobody is expected to have a bright smile on their face 100 percent of the time. And I suspect she is cold, and waiting to remove her coat if and when it warms up. I often leave my coat on too, in those situations.

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    4. Glum? This is not a chirpy theatre outing, but a remembrance of people lost. At one stage, she appeared to have tears in her eyes.
      I suspect she forgot how quickly the thing starts once HM sits down. Don't think she would have had time to take off the coat.
      The coat was lovely, as was her hair. The rest of the ladies (except Princess Royal) were wearing identical dresses.
      Had Catherine worn something similar, there would have been complaints of too much lace.

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    5. Jean, you have the most creative explanation, thanks for the good laugh! I think there are materials other than lace. So we can say Kate has not covered all the possibilities yet.

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    6. I had the same thought, Jean, and just commented on the previous post. I actually think the royal ladies should dress alike for these occasions to allow the attention
      to be focused where it belongs.Their dresses were so close to Catherine's from last year. Although, as I remember, she was strongly criticised then, also. Perhaps they have figured out that lace doesn't wrinkle with prolonged sitting.

      My first impression on seeing that first photo Jane published was that she looked lovely and that it was a very nice dress coat. I do agree that the other version was more stylish and attention-grabbing. It doesn't even look like the same coat to me.
      How many changes can a garment have and still be called the same design?

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    7. I think she likes dress coats and it doesn't seem so bundled up to me...

      Anon2

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    8. anon2- doesn't she have a velvet dress coat, too? This coat is really too dressy or formal for use in her more casual engagements or for general daytime use.
      I agree-not bundled up. The designer calls it a lightweight fabric.

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    9. I have often wondered how many coats Kate owns. Do you estimate 50? In which bedroom does she keep them all organized? The 10th bedroom at Anmer?

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  3. Looks like Melania Trump's outfit that she wore to visit the White House this week. Which is not a bad thing.

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    1. Melania's was a million times more fashionable imo. This coat looks like every other black coat Kate has ever worn. Not that interesting.

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    2. Melania will be interesting to watch. My impression is that her clothes are expensive, top designer, solid colors, and generally lovely, but...rather predictable and uninteresting, lacking a wow factor. I enjoy following Kate's fashions, and lord knows I adore Michelle O, but, at least so far, I'm not clamoring for a Melania Trump fashion blog.

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  4. Gorgeous look. Love her hair and outfit.

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  5. I don't think it looks like that coat.

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    1. I agree unless she had it altered. The waist and collar are totally different.

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    2. Agree. Maybe a bespoke version drawn from the identified original? (I don't think the waist could just be altered to get this look.) I like the original collar better overall but the lower flatter one probably works better for this coat-as-dress use. I do wish she'd not chosen a coat as her outfit though. I agree with Anon 3:50 it looks a little out of place with what the others are wearing.

      I do like her hair darker but not sure I like the blow-out with so much volume up top.

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    3. This may be a duplicate. Too me it looks the same. The edge of the coat is identical and I think the color and waist detail are hidden by hair and by lighting. ali

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  6. She looks lovely and I want that coat!! Not with child is she - her face looks fuller

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  7. I'm celebrating the fact that it's not another black lace dress. She looks wonderful!

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  8. Jennifer from the SouthNovember 12, 2016 at 7:56 PM

    Love th darker hair, although I think a very dark blond would also flatter her immensely. It's when she goes semi red that it drives me nuts. The color now is gorgeous and fresh (just had it done) and I love the back coat although I do wish she would have gone with something less of a daytime look. She looks pretty but dressed for 10 am, not the evening. Where is the lace! The satin! This dress coat is very pretty but also very meh for this evening event.

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  9. So she was wearing a coat inside where it was probably 25 degrees. I wonder what kind of explanation people will come up with especially after giving us a lecture on not knowing the British weather.:)

    She wore silky summer dresses throughout autumn in and outdoor. This girl makes less and less sense to me.

    At least the other royal ladies looked smashing, every single one of them.

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  10. Kate looks healthy and happy, yes.
    This coat... Just looked at the Daily Mail story and everyone looks more youthful. I love the coat but not fit this event. Recycle DVF?

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  11. You call it a rare fashion fails but barring her wardrobe on royal tours her fashion has been more of a fail then a win since she hired Natasha archer as her stylist
    Kate needs to go back more to her 2011 and 2012 style. Everything she wore was perfection. Ever since she became a mother I think she feels she needs to dress more boring for some reason

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    1. I agree Sarah. We've seen quite a few misses (remember Kate walking over from Kensington in her robe to congratulate the British Olympic athletes?) ... quite a few. Even some of the tour outfits were rather ill advised.

      This outfit makes no sense to me. Not once she got inside. I can only hope she is well and not sick. Typically she is the one standing out when the family gets together, but tonight she was the black sheep (maybe princess Beatrice could have saved her, had she been invited, you can always count on her wardrobe mistakes).

      Well, there is only up that we can go from here....

      Royal fan in Northern Ontario

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  12. My first thought was maybe she is ill. Chilly and therefore needing to be bundled up.

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    1. Well, it is true that given how thin she is she can wear something like that and be quite comfortable, I just wish she had worn some light wool dress instead, or a sweater...anything that looked softer and less tied up in a coat and ready to dash.

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    2. An autumn cold perhaps. It's possible. Many people in Northern Europe have them already, and the advice is for everyone to get their flu shots.

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  13. Maybe she didn't want to wear a dress with lace because all the other Royal ladies were wearing that? She wore it first last year and perhaps she didn't want to blend in when she's the one known for lace. Just a thought.

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  14. I like the coat and thought it looked fine but agree at this event it was odd to not see her remove it once she went to sit down at least. I had not thought about her maybe feeling unwell, that could be true. When I am not well I need to be bundled up like that. Sophie had on a coat at the start and then removed and I assume all the other ladies did also.

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  15. This one left me scratching my head. While the coat itself is lovely the overall look is a bit slapdash and gives the impression that she forgot she had an event on her calendar and rushed something together as she dashed out the door. Wearing a coat while no one around her did looked out of place. And without a structured hair style or visible jewels it seems more drab than somber. She's not even wearing a poppy!

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    1. In fairness, she is wearing a poppy. You can see it under her hair on her left (our right) shoulder. A little pop of red peeking out.

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    2. Ok I see it now that you point it out. I take that part back! But I stand by the rest of my comments and double down on questioning why she didn't pull her hair back

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  16. Alejandra RamΓ­rezNovember 12, 2016 at 9:31 PM

    Excellent views! We have exactly the same point of view!
    This would have looked perfect tomorrow, but at the end the event is to commemorate those who gave their lives for us
    Great post!

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  17. I would like to know why this blog is getting so negative lately? This used to be the positive blog, but no more. Kate looks somber and appropriate for this very important event. It's Remembrance Day. Please look beyond fashion, it pains me.

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    1. The blog or the comment section? If you are asking about the comment section, I'll let others weigh in. I allow as much freedom of expression as I can, so long as certain boundaries are not crossed. I do not always personally agree with all the comments. If you are asking about my blog posts, the short answer is, they are not getting more "negative." I always state an opinion about Kate's fashion choices. Happily, she rarely makes a misstep, but when I feel she has, I always say it. I encourage you to scroll through the archives if you need verification on this score. :)

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    2. Anon 10:01 this IS a fashion blog so of course people comment on the fashion

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    3. You may as you wish discuss the fashion. But I think it would be respectful to take some regard to the event in question. Remembrance Day.
      To say that Kate missed the mark, I feel is negative. I'm sure Kate herself will never read it, but it is quite confrontational. Instead I think that commenting what a wonderful event it was, would have been simply nice, as unfashionable as that word may be.

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  18. How to explain the mystery of the coat that stayed on? Maybe Kate saw that someone else was wearing the same dress she had on under her coat.

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    1. Maybe. But I wonder if the other royal ladies who took their coats off wore a poppy both on their coats AND on their dresses? Since Kate has shown a penchant for wearing coats as dresses and she had a coat poppy, I think she planned to keep her coat on all along. But that CAN look like "I'm on a tight schedule and just stopped by for a few moments." I can't believe it was cold in AH with that many people packed in but she is slimmer than I am!

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    2. Maybe but the coat just appears too heavy and stiff for what I would consider a comfy coat to leave on. I think that is why it struck me as odd, it just does not look comfy to be sitting in for several hours. But who knows, as many have said she may have just been chilled for some reason, I have been there and remained pretty bundled up at dinners and events. ali

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    3. anon 11:36- the designer describes it as a "lightweight" fabric.

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    4. Good point, Lizzie. I did think later that she had the poppy on her coat and planned to wear the coat the entire time.

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  19. I love the reference to Maria Callas at the end. I was listening to her in ?La Traviata" early this evening. She had amazing talent.

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  20. Okay.....a tad disappointed here. Jane your analogy to a pininterest fail is bang on. I love the coat in the picture....the tulip shape bottom, the pleats at the back, the pattern in the fabric. All very gorgeous and chic. Also love the booties with it. But Kate's coat doesn't appear to have either the tulip shape or the pleats. To the point of making me wonder if hers was a bespoke piece "inspired" by the original. So wish we had a picture of the back of the coat!

    I will also agree that it does seem odd that she didn't take her coat off during the entire performance. But I will also admit that I have done that, particularly if I am feeling chilled or a bit under the weather.

    So overall, just okay. Not a win but not a miss either.

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    1. I agree, Laura. A fair assessment, altho much better if she had simply worn her hair up, IMO.

      JC

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    2. I agree, Laura. She looks lovely, she's not redundant to last year, but it's not what I would have expected. I have had times when I've been at the theater and needed to put my coat back on but nobody takes a picture of me looking awkward while trying to discreetly pull my coat up over my shoulders. I do wish she would have put her hair up but who knows what circumstances were at home before she left - sick or grumpy kids will mess with your schedule.

      Now that we've see all of the other royal ladies copy Kate's style from last year, maybe next year they will all be wearing coats buttoned up to the neck. ;-)

      The photo of the Royal Albert Hall with all of those poppies projected everywhere is just stunning. It reminds me of "In Flanders Fields" which never fails to bring a tear.

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    3. I wish I had seen it live. From the looks on the faces, it must have been -I apologise-a gut-wrenching yet uniting experience.

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  21. A moving and sombre occasion but as for Kate's coat, hmmm. Lovely coat but rather odd keeping it on for an indoor event. I thought her and William looked a little tense last night, personally. Maybe they'd had a little spat beforehand?

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  22. I love seeing Kate in black coats and thought she looked great today. And the keeping the coat on thing is not a big deal I think, maybe she just felt more comfortable that way.
    - Soha

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  23. Jane, I couldn't agree more with your assessment. This is one of the biggest Kate has ever had in my opinion. First and foremost, this was the wrong occasion to keep on a coat. Second, this was absolutely the wrong occasion for Kate's poppy to be obscured.

    I'm sure this wasn't actually the case, but this entire ensemble was so badly considered that it almost felt like Kate didn't really want to be at the event and just threw together a 'whatever' outfit which had the overall effect of being disrespectful to the event.

    Anon 10:01pm, I read this blog every time a post is published and I can assure it isn't getting negative. Sometimes, Kate misses the mark and people who feel that way are allowed to say so.

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    1. My objection is the hard-to-see poppy. Kate is very hair-centric and this says "my hair is more important than this event."

      Also, there are little black dresses which are not lace, so it's not like that was her only alternative.

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    2. I agree Kaye. Covering the poppy is unfortunate, she did not give this a thought. Also second you with the black dress other than lace sentiment.

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  24. how do you know Kate wouldn't think "fashion fail" if she saw you...

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    1. Since there are absolutely days and ensembles when I am a total fashion fill, I am sure she'd think it sometimes! :)

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  25. Kate looked very pretty, I think she wore another lipstick colour? It certainly looked a bit more colourful than her usual nude, but still very natural, the perfect your lips but better shade. I really like it :)

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  26. I don't know what the big deal is about keeping her coat on. I often keep my coat on at the theatre. Plus, my experience is that theatres and halls in the UK are underheated.

    I probably would like this coat if I saw it in daylight or in person. The lighting does not fully permit the details of seaming and design to show. At some point in the future there will be a recycle and everyone will love it.

    My quibble has to do with her choice of shoe. The coat calls out for a stylish shoe or booties.

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  27. Maybe charlotte vomited on her dress before so she had to take this....or she is pregnant again...

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  28. Sometimes I think she's just had a long day and so throws on a nice coat over a comfy dress. Haven't we all been there? My kids are the same age as hers, and my level of exhaustion is just unreal. Even with all the help in the world, sometimes it's really hard to get it together.

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    1. That is so very true, anon 07:30.

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  29. I think she's sending a message actually. We know she thinks her outfits through with care. She hasn't accidentally worn a coat when every other woman is in a dress. She's saying 'don't look at me, I am not the story' by wearing something which is plain and concealing. I wonder if it's the whole Meghan thing. Possibly they are all feeling vulnerable. Even the hair is part of this, if she wears it like she always does, there's no possible comment.

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    1. But there IS a comment, because the hair totally conceals the all-important poppy.

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    2. If that is the case E, then it has backfired because she is sticking out like a sore thumb and we are all talking about why her coat was left on.

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    3. I agree Faith. I think there were ways to avoid drawing attention other than wearing a buttoned up coat to an hours-long dressy indoor event. I agree keeping on the coat had the reverse effect and likely drew attention since no other woman sitting nearby had on a coat. The covered poppy may have drawn attention too although I suspect that was accidental. Of course none of us can know her motivation but because Kate has become known for dressing in ways that have hidden "symbolic" meanings its easy to think the coat and hidden poppy (vs a black evening skirt suit or black dress with visible poppy like she wore last yr) means something. But maybe it is just a misstep.

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    4. The poppy really isn't all-important; the act of remembrance is.

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    5. The thing is this is the only blog that is discussing her keeping her coat on all evening. I am reading 5 other blogs and no one has commented about this at all. They are commenting about her looking tired, eye makeup, Edward appearing to be napping, Sophies glasses, the various acts BUT no one is going o and on about her keeping the coat on.

      I hate to say it but I am beginning to agree with a poster on another post her that said she felt the comments on the blog were becoming more negative. That this is the nicer blog. Not your posts Jane but the commenters. We all know that other blog that has become very venomous. But there is a bit of a tidal wave washing over this blog lately. I am not sure why it seems there is so much nit picking and judgmental comments on some posts. It is almost like some want a fight. Maybe it is the deep worry in our country and abroad about recent events from Brexit to the election. I don't know. But I much prefer our light hearted discussions versus tearing someone apart (MM) or scolding Kate about keeping her coat on all night. She does this all the time so I am not sure why this is such a topic of discussion. She was dressed appropriately. She was not flashy or smiling and twirling her hair.

      Maybe something happened. The dress ripped. Maybe she is sick. Maybe she just was comfortable and decided to keep the coat on. Why must there be some kind of "reason" that must be found. That seems to be the topic lately. Always looking for the deeper meaning behind some act or percieved act that some do not like. Sorry Jane. I love this blog but it is sometimes exhausting when it drifts into debates that seem to be much ado about nothing. I would rather discuss the coat fashion wise over the she kept her coat on and how dare she chat LOL

      You are all wonderful and I enjoy the threads but lately something is off. Mercury is not in retrograde so hey now πŸ˜œπŸ™†πŸ˜Š

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    6. And maybe it's just us. We who read this blog to see what Kate is wearing and then dissect it as if we were in a freshman science class. In all actuality, I'm sure that the entire UK isn't talking about the fact that Kate wore a coat last night. The remembrance, as anon.12:20 pointed out, is the important thing. The loss of millions of lives while defending their country is what they were there to honor with solemnity. As Americans, we had never had a foreign attack on our country (Hawaii wasn't a state when Pearl Harbor was bombed) until 9/11. In Europe there is hardly a person alive who didn't lose a family member during WWI or WWII. So, while we look at the fashion on this blog, which is it's purpose and is a ton of fun, sometimes it is just about the occasion.

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    7. Diane, my sense is that the Meghan Markle discussion wen t bit off the rails. That's mostly my fault for not monitoring more closely. I think should probably have kept that chat to a more thoughtful and "benefit of the doubt" sort of perspective. The negativity there I think has worn everyone down. I don't think there is any nefarious reason behind Kate's coat last night. I think it is a gorgeous coat, probably looked great in the mirror and she decided to wear t like a dress. It didn't work, and she likely won't do it again. Happens to the best of us, myself included often in that category. :) I'll try to pull in the Meghan Markle comments and I think we will be back on the happy track. :)

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    8. Thanks Jane!

      There are some wonderful people on this blog and thw discussion is often lively and fun. We do not always agree and that is part of the fun in my opinion. But lately it is off the rails.

      Thank you !

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    9. Jane, no need to print this. Apparently, Meghan has given a new interview with Piers Morgan. Quite candid, I understand. It certainly throws cold water on my altruistic POV. Still, all the "commoner" royal wives I mentioned in one comment had lessons to learn. She has her challenges, too.

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    10. Diane,in a blog you used to comment on, nearly every single comment ,some quite sharpish, was fixated on her keeping that coat on. I think everyone is compensating
      for Meghan meaness by slipping back to Kate criticism-just to have something to criticise, I guess. How petty, considering the occasion.

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    11. Two words Diane- SUPER MOON!

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    12. LOL @ SUPER MOON! maybe so anon 1! It was gorgeous last night. I took a walk at 12 midnight and it was fabulous.

      I do not even look at the 'other' blog. The ones I read were not critical. There were a few that wondered why she left it on but most like me said 'meh she doea that all the time' and moved along to other things.

      Yes quite petty indeed.

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    13. Diane, people can have different opinions from you and they are still valuable and viable. You are very judgemental towards posters who view things in a different way than you do.

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    14. I think that is way off base Faith. I am not judgemental. But I never tolerate bullies. I have lived all over the world and diversity is a wonderful thing.

      Bullies are not. Shaming is not. Judging others based on ones own personal bias is wrong.

      I speak out for those being attacked.

      I thought you knew me better Faith.

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    15. I value differences of opinion. I do not and will not tolerate bully behavior. Judgement. No one needs to agree with me Faith. Voicing an opinion is great. I welcome the discussion but when it turns nasty I lose my ....faith in a persons words. The world is not good now. Don't you think that in the scheme of things we should try to be kinder? I do not care if we agree. I care that we are kind and respectful and without judgement. This has become 90% criticism and 10% fashion. We have lost our way. Let us find it again.

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    16. And Faith I value everyone dear... that should be clear in my comments. Kindness, grace, class and love is all..... seems to be lacking in the world. Yeah I am old

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    17. Diane, I enjoy your comments and think you are a valued member of this community. However, I have enjoyed this discussion about the coat and do not think it has veered into bullying territory. Why she wears what she wears is a discussion about fashion, and it is not criticism imo. The conversation here has been respectful and not unkind to Kate. You speak out against what you perceive as negativity and criticism towards Kate but you just directed negativity and criticism towards the majority of your fellow posters who participated in that discussion by denouncing the whole
      thread as petty and brought on by the full moon. Maybe I'm way off base or overly sensitive tonight but I found that to be condescending at best. In the scheme of things, fashion is petty but it is fun as well and I enjoyed reading various points of view about why the coat stayed on and what would have worked better. I really do not think anyone was judging Kate or being mean spirited. Sometimes, I think critical remarks get mistaken for criticism/ negativity but they are two different animals.

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    18. Faith
      I second every word you wrote!

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    19. I agree Faith. I do think some comments made WERE awfully critical of MM in the other threads. (People might try substituting "Kate" for "Meghan" in some of those comments and see how they sound...) But wondering why Kate wore a coat and not a dress/suit hardly falls into that same category. I think Faith is quite correct..in the ultimate scheme of things fashion comments (either pro or con) are sort of petty and trivial. But most of the time talking about fashion likes and dislikes is fun.

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    20. For the record the full moon was a JOKE

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    21. Faith I am speaking in general terms of how we are drifting into discussions very often that are negative and in the case of MM at tad bullying to me.


      It is not the coat per se. It is the general ongoing nit picking by some. I have not a clue why SOME people who do not like Kate read the blogs when every comment is negative.

      Have a lovely day.

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    22. To quote Molly Ringwold in The Breakfast Club, " A sense of humor is nice; you
      should get one." I was the one who brought up the supermoon. It has been credited, rightly or wrongly, with inspiring strong emotional outbursts. Diane had apologised to Jane for her spirited remarks. I mentioned the supermoon. A JOKE. Diane got it.
      My quote is meant for all of us. This is supposed to be a fun project for Jane and all of us. I still prefer it to any other Kate blog.Many of us truly believe very strongly in our views. It does make discussion interesting. However, feeding frenzies are not pleasant to experience and the mean-girl approach to "constructive criticism" has the same effect.
      I will continue to try to lighten up, but I will also meet snark with snark. I'll
      stop if you will.(the general, inpersonal meaning of "you")
      Starting NOW.
      PS I also brought up the"petty."

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    23. PPS Please see Betsey's comment below for an example of a kind, non-snarky indoor Kate coat remark.It CAN be done nicely.

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    24. Thank you anon 1 πŸ˜ŠπŸ™†

      Between you and I ~ Mercury goes retrograde Decemeber 19th through January 8th. Perhaps I should tie my hands up lest I go on a rant πŸ™„ haahaaaahahaa πŸ˜…πŸ˜…

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    25. Anon 1 if we are all going to try and keep this space pleasant maybe we just drop the snark full stop. Otherwise it's too easy to read snark where it may not have been intended and then feel justified to resort to nastiness.

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    26. Do you talk with your hands, Diane? :+) Only digitally?
      My friends are planning an intervention .

      Obviously, we share the same sense of humor.

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    27. Anon 1, I know it was a joke but given the context and previous comments it came across as demeaning and dismissive, at least to me. Also, I didn't pick up on any particularly snarky comments nor anything resembling a feeding frenzy . Just people stating their opinions, that's
      all.

      Betsey's comment is very gracious but everyone has a different writing style and it is so hard to gauge intent on this medium. It would be nice if we could give other posters the benefit of the doubt. Also, just as you are asking people to comment about Kate in a non snarky, kind way, we can communicate with one another in the same manner. Why should we be snarky, mean and judgemental
      with one another? Most of us will never ever meet Kate but we deal with each other, sometimes, on a daily basis, and it would be nice if that could be done with tolerance for all points of view that Jane allows to go live.

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    28. Yes I do !! In fact I cannot make a complete sentence if sit on my hands ( friends have attempted this kind of intervention many times). I talk to myself as well using my hands too. I do not with scissors though 😜✂

      I do think we indeed share the same sense of humor. Humor is must in my book.

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    29. Given the political climate right now I think everyone is just in a bad mood and it is spilling into things we are supposed to enjoy. The news has been banished in our house and we are so much happier for it. This whole country needs to stop acting like a bunch of whiney babies because an
      election did or did not go their way and try being adults again. And, Diane, I am so happy that you don't run with scissors! That would just cause pandemonium! ;-)

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    30. Robin not sure it's the election. Nastiness has been going on for awhile.

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    31. Are you saying Faith, Lizzie and anon 7:11 are whining babies Robin? I hope not because I think they brought up some real points.

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    32. I don't think that is what Robin was saying, Anon 5:56. I think Robin is injecting levity.

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    33. Sorry if I misunderstood Jane. English is not my first language.

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  30. I’ve long been puzzled by Kate’s penchant for keeping her coat on indoors, but I certainly would not characterize this as a misstep. I think she looked very youthful and pretty last night. Her hair was lovely—the best I have seen it styled in a long while. I almost always prefer it when she wears her hair down. And I really like the darker shade of brown. It’s much more flattering on her than the lighter brown she’s been sporting lately. I also think the coat is nice. I just wish Kate had taken it off… or at least unbuttoned a few of the top buttons.

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  31. I really like the idea of a "coat dress" - a tailored coat that you don't take off, but only for outdoor occasions, or balcony occasions. Indoors, especially at a formal occasion like this one it just seems a little stuffy, and with her hair down is overwhelming. I agree about everything you said, Jane - I LOVE the coat, it's absolutely stunning. I can't WAIT to see her wear it outside, with bare legs, black heels (or burgandy would be beautiful!), an updo, and maybe even a great hat. And I LOVE that clutch with it! It's oversized velvet bow is sweet and whimsical. I have to say I didn't love last years lace ensemble - I thought it far too old for Kate, though it was pretty, it was also kind of boring. I'll bet her recycle of this coat, whenever that is, is totally different and will be amazing. Can't wait!

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  32. Hello from Spain! Who is the blonde gir hair next to Archibishop? Royal? Thanks!

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  33. Maybe it's only the American ladies here who are wondering about the coat? It is not uncommon for people in Europe to wear coats to events such as this. And wearing the coat would be less fuss, and warm on a chilly night.
    Do you have something similar in America where you remember fallen soldiers? You must have lost lots of young men in Vietnam for instance?

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    1. Anon 6:21 in the US we also observe "Veterans Day" on Nov 11. We know about the significance of the 11th hr of the 11th day of the 11th month.  We don't have the same sort of single national ceremony as the UK (probably due to our geographical size and multiple time zones plus we decided against having royalty awhile back :) but our president (or sometimes the vice-president) does lay a wreath in a somber ceremony. We also have parades, decorate graves of the fallen, hang flags, etc. Although we were fortunate WWI and WWII battles did not extend to our mainland, we lost many US soldiers in both of those wars as well as in other conflicts including Vietnam. We do observe Memorial Day in May too. While that holiday has its origins in our one civil war, it isn't tied to that now.

      Ladies in Europe may very well wear coats indoors. I think the reason many here mentioned Kate's coat is that no one else in the BRF kept a coat on nor did anyone in the photos available of those seated in the general area except for Kate so it appeared a bit unusual.

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    2. Thank you for explaining, Lizzie. I really appreciate it :-)

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  34. I'm catching up and haven't read the comments, but my opinion is that the coat is fine and I have no problem with her not taking it off. But it would have been a more formal look with an updo ..... vs. just a coat she didn't take off. :)

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    1. Need you royalfan... it is harsh

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    2. Thank you Diane. Although I fear I may have disappointed you on another subject.... :-)

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  35. Thank you Jane, for sharing the incomparable Maria Callas. What a brilliant artist she was. Another favorite of my mine was her recording of Casta Diva. A tour de force.

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    1. Tedi- has anyone mentioned "Madame Butterfly?" That aria at the end. I got chills just now, remembering it. Those notes cut through to the bone, if that makes any sense.

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  36. Additional two cents... :-)

    Last year, Kate arrived wearing the lace dress. No coat. This is typical for members of the RF; they arrive without coats on these occasions. We may see a shawl, but no layering with coats.

    This is not a heavy overcoat IMO. This WAS Kate's outfit for the evening. The only thing I may have tweaked was to add a chignon for a more sophisticated evening look.

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  37. Hmm, definitely looking a litle rounded in the belly in that last photo. Here's hoping there's another cute little Windsor baby on the way. But maybe she's just a little bloated. Her face looks better tonight - more well-rested. She's looked really tired lately (as a fellow parent, I can sympathize!).

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  38. The first thing I thought when I saw these last 2 outfits was that she was pregnant and not feeling well. Now I truly do not like a lot of speculation about her personal matters like that, it is what I felt when I saw her. The events were somber and frankly the outfits were fine in my opinion, there was just something in the style that made me think that.

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    1. I don't usually like to speculate either but I think you might be right. Something about her expression at these events reminds me of that appearance on the balcony when she was pregnant with George and we all didn't know it yet. And her hair color reminds me of the shade she often goes to while pregnant (organic plant-based dye?). She was also incredibly busy and then has fallen out of sight. But who knows maybe I'm just imagining things.

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  39. I'll just put my two cents in, I guess. I think this is a beautiful coat, but it just didn't photograph well at this venue. I would like to see it in natural light, perhaps at a balcony appearance in the future. I think Kate would prefer not to draw attention to herself on these occasions when HM and the rest of the family are there. It was demure and appropriate for the engagement.

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  40. I'm convinced she didn't take off her coat because somebody else had the same dress as she had, maybe Sophie Wessex...

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