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Kate in Paule Ka for Action for Children

Wednesday, February 22, 2017

Kate's trip to Paris in March is less than a month away and it looks like the princess might have France on her mind. The Duchess of Cambridge arrived in Wales today for her first event as patron of Action for Children wearing a very popular suit from 2012 by French designer Paule Ka.



It was just a year ago we were thinking we'd never see this suit, or ensembles of similar style, again and here she is running a slew of recycles circa 2011/2012. If you put money on "what goes around comes around," this is your lucky year.
 

Kate started her morning at MIST in Torfean, Wales, a "child and adolescent mental health service for children with complex needs." Kensington Palace shared this photo of Kate with her welcome bouquet of bright posies:

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During her morning visiting the centre, Kate met with children and adolescents and learned about the various programs MIST provides to these young people coping with mental health issues. During the course of one conversation, Kate discussed how helpful pets can be, and referenced both her cocker spaniel Lupo and Marvin the Hamster. So...now we know Marvin has survived life with Princess Charlotte, which is probably an accomplishment given the abundance of her affection for pets. ;)


Kate made a second stop at Caerphilly Family Intervention Team (FIT) a program that works with "children with emotional and behavioural difficulties, problems with family relationships and those who have or who are likely to self harm."
 

Action for Children

The day produced a number of sweet moments induing the little girls in this video who got a chance to hug Kate, and the guys who played a little pool with her. The boys graded Kate a "dreadful" player:



Kate might be a dreadful pool player, but at least she looks good doing it--and the entire room clearly had a blast.

Action for Children

Let's talk about the fashion. As noted, Kate cast back to 2012 today to recycle these burgundy suit separates from a visit to Middle Temple. I was not in law school at the time, but Middle Temple is one of the Inns of Court and the Cambridges were on hand to inaugurate a scholarship in their name for needy law students. So, now I love that event for the fashion and the substance. :) 


A From Berkshire to Buckingham reader has experienced a stint at Middle Temple and shared her very cool story on a post several years ago: 
Earlier in 2012, a little before their visit to the Middle Temple Inn, I was one of two US attorneys to get a 6-week scholarship to join the barristers in London (the Pegasus Scholarship). The Temple part of London is majestic and so historical, I strongly urge anyone to visit. I was so happy when I found out that the Cambridges visited the Inns of Court later that year, as more people should certainly learn about these institutions and the important roles of barristers! 
When Kate first wore this suit, she paired it with a crochet embellished tank by Charlotte Tarantola (huge applause for Kate's Closet for tracking that down) and heels. Today, it is like Kate read the blog post about the Philosophy blazer and got up this morning and said, "Ok, I can get it right, watch this." I even thought this morning that she was recycling the Philosophy blazer and I was genuinely flabbergasted. But, no, a better recycle. ;) I think this is Kate's favorite brown-edged turtleneck and she brought back the Stuart Weitzman boots she wore last week. It really is a skirt version of the Air Cadets outfit, right? 


Kate wore her Kiki McDonough citrine cushion cuts, which she has only worn one other time in public. These got their first day out in 2013 when Kate paid a visit to Cheltenham while pregnant with Prince George. They were an interesting choice, but I thought the deep citrine worked well with the burgundy. They are both rich, autumnal hues and it was a successful color combo. A fan in the crowd, Alex Simmonds, inadvertently got a great shot of the earrings in his twitpic:

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I love this suit and I particularly love the skirt. Just last week I was wishing for just this ensemble--the turtleneck against a burgundy jacket--and Kate delivered in spades today. I feel I don't have any standing to complain, but I will only note that I liked this suit better with heels. Heels change your posture and that might have been a good move for this mini skirt which pairs well with flirty pumps. Ultimately, although the chunky heels are currently en vogue, I think they are too heavy for this look. Her Rumbas might have been just the finishing touch. Alternatively, rather than recycling this ensemble as a whole,  the skirt with cute flats and a soft oversized sweater top might be a huge hit.



Something was a bit off with today's ensemble and I think different boots would have gone a long way to solving the problem. In this photo below, which might be the best of the day, Kate looks picture perfect. I believe the angle of the lens, which diminishes the heavy soles of the boots, has a lot to do with it. So, we have a win, even if not entirely a home run, it is a win!



This post was quite delayed, because as I mentioned this morning and on Instagram, I was out for the morning at a D.C. event. That event was sitting in on the Kindred Nursing v. Clark oral arguments in front of the United States Supreme Court. If that were not exciting enough, Ivanka Trump showed up with Arabella and sat right in front of me! It was quite an experience and I am writing a separate post to share with you the story of the morning and a little about what Ivanka was wearing. A lot of you have emailed or posted asking me to launch a blog following Ivanka, and I just don't have the time due to school and work commitments, but I thought it might be fun to at least share today's story. If this isn't your cup of tea, I understand and will see you at our next Kate post, but for the rest, I will have that SCOTUS/Ivanka post live tonight!  


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  1. Well, more red and a verrry short skirt. Black tights too, and a limp hair do. Not thrilled. It's either an occasional home-run, or more often a total miss these days, it seems.

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    1. Completely agree. The skirt is way too short. If I wore that length to work, my co-workers would laugh. And I am the same age as Kate. Just dress professionally....it's really not that hard.

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    2. Very short skirt?? Are we looking at the same pictures?

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    3. We are! They are above mid tight! How much shorter should the hem be to be considered inappropriate?

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  2. What is with the black turtlenecks?? It ruins this suit just like it did the red blazer. The first time she wore this suit it looked great but the turtleneck, black tights and boots are a fail in my opinion.

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  3. Considering the weather and an away day, turtlenecks are ideal. Not a miss for me. Good for working and youthful too.

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  4. Jennifer from the SouthFebruary 22, 2017 at 8:31 AM

    Thanks for posting, Jane!

    LOVE this suit this time. I think it looks fun and appropriate.

    It's funny, because I hated this suit last time Kate wore it. Comparing the pictures, I think it was for 3 reasons: (1) that hideous shirt underneath the suit that Kate wore with the patterned coat this year I think (or maybe last) that wasn't atrocious on its own, but that shirt absolutely ruins the looks; (2) Kate's hair had too much red in it; and (3) Kate's skin had reddish undertones and too freshly spraytanned for her to wear the color.

    BUT HERE - the suit looks lovely on her. I am so glad she gave it another go, because this was on my least favorite outfit lists, and now, if not a favorite, it's definitely in my "win" category.

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  5. "I can get it right, watch this" - Well I'm watching and waiting Jane, this is not getting it right IMO.
    That skirt is far too short for official work, once again she pairs with black everything and that "hairdo". Please. I don't understand what's going on with her, the pro active decisions she makes on her outfits and clothing are mind boggling at times. Very disappointing.

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    1. HaHa! Tsipa! I see the most approachable member of the BRF. That's one of her many gifts.....I've heard of those bumps being called a bun peanut and tadpole, but not a burrito. If she were this slender and pregnant I would worry about HG.

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    3. The "she's pregnant" comments make me cringe every time. And the "couple of breakfast burritos" comment is even worse. I know you think it would be great if she's having another baby, and I get that, but without any other evidence that she is pregnant, the comments are just plain body shaming.

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    5. @Jane in Canada: I totally agree with you about the pregnant comments. They make me cringe every time.

      @Tsipa Swan: It IS body shaming because you're saying that a woman can't have a belly without her being pregnant.

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    6. I tend to reserve the term "body shaming" for cases like a teenager being picked on because she's overweight, a young man for being shorter than others his age. So I don't apply the term widely and would not apply it here but that's just me. However, I do find constant pregnancy comments and gazing at Kate's tummy to be a bit cringe-worthy. W&K's family planning really isn't our business until and if they make it so. They were "obligated" to produce heirs...fine, they've already done that. We don't know if they want another child (Kate's supposed comments about wanting 3 were made a long time ago pre-HG and Will has made plenty of public comments about how hard parenting is for him.) And even if they do want another child, it might not happen.

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    7. Thank you, Jane in Canada, Leslie and Lizzie for voicing what many of us are probably thinking.

      The intrusive and persistent comments about the most personal of issues are beyond the limits of decency.

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    8. "Will" has spoken of the difficulties of parenting both in a personal and broader context. Anyone who feels parenting is easy likely has never been a parent or is goofing off on the job, or avoiding the truth. I seriously doubt he would give parenting's being hard as a reason for not having more children. In fact, I think those "two children" stories started before they had children.Considering the organisations and charities William works with involving children with multiple problems from environmental and other factors, his remarks are understandable. Many of the sources work directly with parents to educate and support them. There was also an allusion to his possibly coming into contact with suicidal patients in his air ambulance work. One can imagine the distraught parents. Any remarks he made with a personal reference need to be considered in light of the context they were given in- George was apparently a demanding, possibly colicky baby. I have a vague memory of someone asking how he liked being a parent and his saying it was hard. Not a major statement of philosophy......PS I'm not sure that speaking of a possible "bump" is more vulgar than describing and remarking on her various other body parts, which seems to be acceptable as it is done quite frequently here and elsewhere. I think the pregnancy talk is in poor taste also and regret I called attention to it by trying to make a joke to distract from it. It would have been far better to let the subject drop than to make an issue and call attention to it by further commenting on the remark. However, I can understand it given how cute those kids are. One looks forward to more. I believe That is the understood context behind Tsipa's remark. Pregnancy and lack thereof is one of the most talked-about subjects on the planet-for good reason. It is what keeps us humans around even when we act like jungle creatures. Actually, if you watch those nature programs, we could learn a lot from some of them....ok. I'm stepping away from the pulpit now. PPS I agree-that was not body shaming as I understand the term. She was actually saying one Could have a tummy and not be pregnant -burritos, anyone?

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    9. Pregnancy is one of the most talked about subjects and people frequently feel entitled to ask women very personal questions or make comments (well intentioned or otherwise) about what is happening or not happening with a woman's body and fertility. But good intentions don't change the fact that such questions and speculation can be deeply painful for a woman who may be dealing with infertility or miscarriages or even simply adjusting to changes in her body because of pregnancy or aging.

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    12. I hope you weren't referring to me Tsipa when you talk about hypocrisy.I think if you go back and look at any post I have ever made on this blog you will find that I have never commented in any negative or even positive way on any part of Kate's physical shape. Never. I think its wrong to speculate about whether someone is pregnant unless you are a close personal friend or a family member - and even then.... If you met Kate in public would you ask her if she's pregnant or just had a couple of burritos for breakfast? Speculating is hurtful because if she isn't, the assumption is that she is developing a belly. Most women would not welcome such a suggestion. I know you didn't mean that, but that is the way it sounded to me. Overly sensitive? Maybe. But I think I should be able to express my opinion without being called a hypocrite and without saying that it is clearly my "issue". Every opinion expressed here is a personal opinion.

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  7. She's so tiny! Just got done looking at Daily Mail photos and those pin thin legs! The more I saw her in the suit the more I liked it; it seemed an appropriate outfit for the occasion (almost like the drab let the charity and kids shine brighter?). I don't understand the turtleneck either but it looked cold so... I think Kate went functional today, in an outfit she felt comfortable in. It wasn't amazing but it fit the occasion.

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    1. She really is tiny! I know we aren't really 'supposed' to talk about this, but this is always at the back of my mind since I saw her when she came to my town on the Canada tour. Whenever I see her pin legs in photos like this I can't help but feel bad because she truly is skeletal. The camera definitely does add 10 lbs like they say.

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    2. Well, I don't see "pin thin". And I wonder how references to "fat" would be received.

      IMO, Kate is naturally slender and what we see is a combination of good genes, healthy diet, and exercise.

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    3. It's funny the connotations words take on. Saying "slender" or "slim" is apparently fine (and often seen as a compliment) but saying the word "thin" is not ok. I didn't mention Kate's legs before  (using any term) but I do think opaque black tights and short wide skirts tend to make most women's legs look thinner/slimmer/skinnier than they actually are. (To me that's also what makes it a juvenile look.) And since Kate's legs are already slim, this outfit tends to emphasize that aspect.

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    4. My understanding of the most common meaning of slim and slender indicates a healthy trimness with appropriate , but not excessive fat distribution-no sunken cheeks, for example, and adequate muscle mass. I think this describes Kate. Thinness indicates an unhealthy state without normal fat-padding-protruding hip bones, sunken cheeks, outlined rib cage. Imagine a typical runway model. "Pin-thin" and "skeletal" are words used not just to indicate a state of nutrition, but also to inject a negative vibe. Just my opinion. Words can be weapons and words matter. I am as uncomfortable discussing this topic as some are with discussing a possible pregnancy. Both are topics in poor taste. I assume it is possible to discuss Kate's fashion without making personal references. Just say you don't think something is properly fitted. No need to graphically describe her physical attributes or lack thereof. One doesn't have to report every thought one has. Just say the hose don't flatter her legs. if that is the effect.

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    5. I wasn't talking about using words like "skeletal" Anon 1. But your discussion of the meaning of slender and slim vs thin to you illustrates my point...words have different connotations and mean different things to different people, even when a thesarus indicates they are synonyms.

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    6. There are numerous words in a thesaurus with synonyms given that in actual or colloquial useage have shades of meaning that are not identical. I was following along in the context of the original comment in the thread and anonymous's agreement and expansion.But yes, words do have different connotations, often differing from region to region. Again, context-verbal and non-verbal. Since all we have here is verbal and we can't see facial expressions, if, for example, someone wrote: She looked wonderful . She's so thin! (Said with a smile) Or -The dress just hung on her; she looked so thin. (said with a frown) Same word. Vastly different meaning and perhaps intent. OK I just reread your second comment 5:26. We actually agree. Whoopee!

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    7. Yes, words matter and so does the way they are communicated, as Anon 1 pointed out. Facial expression and intent does make a difference.

      But this is where I was coming from... Imagine if words like "thin" and "skeletal" were replaced with "fat" and "obese". Would we be having the same conversation? I don't think so. Therefore, why is it okay to go there and dissect Kate's appearance to this degree?

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    8. No we wouldn't be royalfan. It would be shut down as fast as that pregnancy topic was.-which is kind of related because of the accusation of body-shaming with the tummy reference. In the next post there is a really blatant remark about her lack of bulk-other words were used; so far no one has accused the commenter of body-shaming. I think I have an idea why fat labeling is taboo yet thin labeling is almost encouraged-but it may not be politically correct. Ha!

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    9. No we likely would not royalfan. For me, saying "skeletal" or "fat" IS over the line but certain synonyms of "thin" tend not to be. Imagine we were talking about someone else, not Kate, and someone said "I think her hourglass figure looks voluptuous in that outfit." And then someone else said "I think that outfit over-emphasizes her wide hips and larger bosom"  If the same thing happened in that case as in this one there likely would objections to the second comment with the first comment being fine, even applauded. (Although it probably depends on who is being discussed. I haven't noticed much restraint here to discussing whether an outfit fits body type when talking about one of Princess Eugenie or Bea's appearances. Or even when talking about Camilla sometimes but those latter comments may relate more to ageism vs purely body issues.)  


      But type of comment about Kate seems to be what Anon 1 is focused on--comments about physical appearance/Kate's body using certain words are perfectly acceptable if complimentary but if the fit, style, cut of an outfit leads to a comment using *the same words* that is at all negatively toned, then there is hullabaloo. Seems kind of confusing--can we mention physical features or not-- unless the unspoken rule is only positive comments allowed. Some may feel that way anyway (kind of boring "discussion" IMO) but it just seems odd to me we can say "she looks wonderfully thin in that outfit" and face objections if saying "she looks woefully thin in that outfit." Unless the real issue isn't about discussing body features but is instead a general objection to opinions containing criticism being voiced. That I understand although I may not agree. But, after all, we all know much of choosing flattering and appropriate clothes--for anyone--relates not only to considering the venue where they'll be worn but also with matching the style, cut, color to our physical features and body type.  

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    10. Again, "The hose don't flatter her legs." Diplomatic and tactful.Criticism without physical description. I don't understand why this concept is so difficult to understand or maybe why it is resisted so fiercely. It can lead one to believe the purpose for a remark is personal ridicule instead of fashion critique. One need not say everything one is thinking, even if the meaning could be generally understood. I love the British gift for understatement- but not ,perhaps,the bite that sometimes hits one a moment later, like an bitter aftertaste in wine. Lizzie, you are absolutely correct about some remarks made about other royals. I do think that type of comment tends to crop up when they are used as the example of the right way to do things. It is a sort of reflexive, automatic response. I have tried to avoid making such remarks since I have been made aware of what I was doing. I occasionally back-slide. Ha!...See, sometimes what we say here does make a difference.

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    11. I don't understand how discussing that opaque black tights create a slimming effect is a criticism. I didn't find the original "pin thin" comment negative or offensive at all.

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    12. anonymous-it isn't a criticism, depending on the context. "Slimming effect" itself is a general remark while the other is a personal remark. There is a difference. There is nothing wrong with criticism done on a blog such as this if it is done tactfully and kindly. If the discussion is a general one it means one thing; if we were discussing a portly princess, another. I think it tends to illustrate royalfan's point.

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    13. Anon 1 @11:39, I think I have the very same idea why... Ha! I agree. ;-)

      Lizzie, I understand what you're saying and I realize that comments have been made about Bea & Eugenie, for example, choosing styles that suit their body types. But is that any different from the ongoing references to Kate's long torso and why she should or should not wear certain styles? Although it does get old after a while, I can accept that we are discussing fashion and body type plays a role.

      HOWEVER, sometimes there appears to be an overt need to refer to Kate as thin, almost implying that she isn't healthy...that the stress of her role is too much for her, etc. In other words, ANYTHING but acknowledging that she has good genes and, most likely, has a good diet and exercises regularly. In other words, some good luck combined with good choices.

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    14. We'll just have to agree to disagree on this one Anon 1. And let Jane decide if comments on this and any other topic are appropriate to go live.

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    15. I don't see a problem with slim or thin. I did miss the skeletal comment, which had I seen it, would have been blocked. I do miss things when I am approving on the go from my phone.

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    16. Agree, royalfan "Good luck, good genes, good choices..." and a lot of hard work, which may be a sticking point with some. The references to long torso, long- waisted, short-legged etc. do get tiresome, but a single comment about a tummy set off out-rage. Someone ought to do a Ph.D. thesis on that sort of internet social etiquette phenomenon . By the way, take another look at her in those thigh slit gowns-short legs, really?.....What also gets tiresome for me is being told I only accept complimentary remarks about Kate. This label usually is the response to my voicing my opinion of tactless descriptions of her figure or references to her judgement in areas other than fashion. I checked-there was still no outrage expressed over a rather vulgar comment about Kate's figure in the next comment section. ...which brings me to a suggestion that we try to self-govern our comments, not just throw them out there to see if they will fly. Jane is crazy busy and does admit to missing some remarks that should not have gone live. Part of the appeal of this blog Is Jane's other life and her openness in sharing it with us. It does mean she sometimes has to edit on the fly. I will say that commenter's blowing off their responsibility for their own comments by saying if it goes live it is approved is obviously not a valid excuse. However, once something Is printed, I don't think we should be told not to voice our disapproval of the comment.

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    17. Anon 1, yes, most likely a sticking point.

      Overall, I'm thinking it must be a slow day at the DM. Oh, well. Some of the bait speaks for itself.

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  8. What a cute and youthful appearance and very appropriate for her meeting with children. Why the turtleneck? Maybe it's warm? :)

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  9. Love the jacket and the Haiti but that skirt and boots....not my thing but at least we get to see her and she is promoting a good cause which is what it's all about.

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  10. I feel that I should reserve my final judgement for when more photos come up but ,on first glance, this is a let down for me after all the home runs she has worn lately. I know it is cold and windy while the engagement is casual but this just doesn't seem to be working as a whole. I do like all the items separately though. Agree about the limp hair that anon 6;36 points out.

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    1. Yes I agree. Separately the items are nice

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  11. Cute, youthful outfit for meeting youth. The staff and many of the on-lookers were looking spiffy. The mayor seems charming . I noticed a couple of those inside the first engagement wore skirts at least as short as Kate's with black opaque stockings as well. She actually has had previous engagements at Action For Children sites. This is just her first as royal patron. I wonder if HM has had this in mind for Catherine for awhile. I sincerely believe there is an over-all plan for the transition to be eased in before the Queen is gone. If her funeral has been planned down to the music, I imagine she would want careful planning for some of her favorite charities to be well-represented. Another perfect fit for Kate.-- and what an amazing organization. I wonder if it is supported by private support and donations or by the government or both.

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  12. My personal opinion is that the skirt is too short but, otherwise, she looks adorable. I looked at the weather in Wales and it was only 10ΒΊC/50ΒΊF, breezy, and rainy so the tights, gloves, boots, and turtleneck seem a good fit for the chilly temperatures. Her hair looks a little limp but when one stands in the wind that's to be expected. She looks so happy to be there and that's the most important thing.

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  13. Leave Kate alone lately nothing she does suits anyone. It is cold there and she has dressed warm and comfortable not a beauty queen.

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    1. This is a fashion blog FYI and I people aren't being mean they are stating they wish she would have styled it differently. It isn't like anyone is calling her ugly and calling the outfit a total mess

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    2. But Joann, respectfully, she is actually a beauty queen and I think that is why we always hope she'll be styled in the ways that suit her beauty and royalty best. Often when I get a negative first impression of her outfit I change my mind the more I see it. Not today - the casual boots kill this cute suit for me. And it's too short and girlish - I love it on the model, but somehow it loses its sophistication on our lovely Kate. I love how she recycles but this didn't work for me.

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    3. "Pin thin legs?" What does that have to do with the outfit? There are constant little jabs and innuendos that are sugar-coated to make them easier to swallow. She is not a beauty queen or a model or a movie star. If she were she'd be riding in a parade, walking a catwalk, or willingly running around in her skivvies on film. She is a country girl who reportedly prefers the types of outfits we saw in Vogue. She is spending time with children, some of whom enjoy running up to her with possibly sticky hands and giving her dress-wrinkling snug hugs. When she is on the red carpet or at a concert or memorial with no starry-eyed kids in sight, we see a totally different look.

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  14. Very classic, very French, very whimsical. I actually never liked this suit before, but I see now I just didn't like the styling in 2012. This is a feast for my eyes and I'm loving the New Wave vibes we're getting lately! I think DOC is in a really interesting, game-upping, more sophisticated transitional phase.

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    1. I agree, I did not like the 2012 outfit, the shirt, the heels. Today it is youthful and casual and appropriate for a less formal occasion with children but I am not sure if it is suitable for playing pool or bending down to children. Trouser suits would be perfect.

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  15. Leave Kate alone she looks warm and she is still young and I like the red and black.

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  16. I think i like how she styled the suit better in 2012. I agree with Emily, I think the turtle neck ruins it. I love the suit itself but the hair style, turtleneck and shoes took away from the suit.

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  17. The citrine cushion cuts! Such a fun recycle.

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  18. Omg, this outfit is not good, and the hair is worse. I can't even explain how over this hairstyle I am, not to mention that it doesn't even look like it WAS styled today. I don't understand how it's possible for her to keep getting it wrong, when she used to get everything RIGHT! It's time for a change in stylist, makeup artist, and hairstylist. It was time as soon as she switched!

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    1. Totally agree with you. I miss 2011 and 2012 Kate lol that blowout she had last month gave me such hope she was returning but alas...

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    2. I thought her ponytails were a better option for weather events than this pin back style she has been favoring.

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  19. I really like this look - she looks young, and yet professional. Where I work, many people pair boots like this with skirt-suits and are considered polished. The turtleneck is not my favorite part of the look, but I understand it, since it's February and she's not wearing a coat on top of her suit. The only part I don't really like are her earrings, but I don't know what I would have suggested instead.

    Looking forward to hearing your thoughts later!

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  20. Orange County a GrandmaFebruary 22, 2017 at 1:16 PM

    Well ladies it is raining and cold. So the limp hair is because of the rain I would imagine. And the turtle neck the same reason. Give the girl a break.

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    1. Exactly. There are times that she's representing the UK-foreign trips, receiving state visitors when her appearance is part of her job. Then there are times like this-she's visiting a charity, meeting and encouraging folks-where a bright smile and a kind heart are what's required.

      One other thing gets ignored is local norms. What do the local ladies of her age and body type wear? It's hard to judge from my perch in (usually) sunny CA.

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    2. Agree that the weather didn't do any favors for Kate in the hair department but it was looking limp before the event as she was exiting the car. Had her hair been styled in the way of her January mental health meeting with William and Harry, it would have withstood the wind and rain in a much better way. Not a big deal. Just an observation.

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    3. This is a fashion blog so because it was gross out today we aren't allowed to share our opinion on the outfit?

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    4. OC Grandma and Peggy, are both of you CA ladies surviving this weather? We've got some flooding in our area but not in our neighborhood and we're pretty much cut off from the coastline but we're dry at our house.

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    5. I agree this isn't a formal event but I would think charity work also counts as "her job" Peggy (to the extent Kate HAS an official job) I don't think members of the RF serve as patrons of charities as ordinary citizens. And this charity is one she took over from QEII in Dec.

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    6. I wasn't clear, I tend to ramble...boiled down is in some cases her job IS to look pretty and represent the UK. Days like this her job is to support the charity, chat up the kids, listen and report back to the boss if needed.

      And RobinfromCA, no flooding, nut it's rubber boots (wellies!) for another month.

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  21. I love this look - youthful and chic. This is a very "Kate Middleton" look (as opposed to "Duchess of Cambridge" look). She still looks young enough to pull off these looks so she should do so until she no longer can.

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    1. I love the jacket and the turtleneck, they are perfect for a cold and rainy day, the short skirt is not to short for a less formal event with children and parents, but I think both cloths - jacket and skirt- do not really match, they look like two separate pieces. I like her wearing suits instead of these dreadful matronly dresses and I would like to see her in trouser suits.

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  22. Usually a fan of her outfit but I do not like that skirt black tights and knee boots combo. Thumbs down from me... ( because I would never wear it maybe and we are 4 days apart in age)

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  23. I like the color on Kate but think even with black tights the skirt is too short. Glad there wasn't a photographer behind her when she played pool. It looks like something a teenager would wear to me, not a 35 yo. (But I've not thought her other clothes were especially "matronly" either.)  And on the designers model the skirt looks longer. Its not Kate's height that makes it shorter-- on the model four horizontal panels show and on Kate only three panels plus about an inch do. It looks like she's had the skirt altered or it's hiked up way above her waist perhaps (once again) in an attempt to hide her long waist. I also think the jacket is a bit short. This especially obvious when viewed from the back. 

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    1. Agree, lizzie, re the teenage vibe from the skirt. And the hairstyle veers toward childhood, IMO. Alice in Wonderland perhaps.

      I also dislike the boots, part suede and part some sort of stretch material, I think.

      I have never liked this suit, nor do I think it could be redeemed via changed accessories.Think I would keep the jacket, but not the skirt and pair the jacket with black or camel trousers, and work from there on accessories.

      Great cause, tho, and one she could introduce to George and Charlotte when they're older.

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    2. I've never quite understood the point of boots made with part of the uppers being stretch material JC. I guess it makes them fit the leg tighter and not slide down if the leather/suede part is thin and might sag. But to me it always looks like the maker ran out of the "real" material or is a way to make the  boots cheaper (obviously not the case here)

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  24. Let's face it, Duchess Catherine is beautiful and would look fabulous in anything. I thought her hair was perfect and youthful, the event was certainly worthy and she seemed to be genuinely enjoying herself. My only negative thought regarding the skirt is that it's too short for the occasion. When playing billiards or stooping for children, a midi length would have been far more appropriate. I love the color though and the layered look and tights looked wonderfully warm and appropriate for the weather.

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  25. Love this suit - cosy and tres cute !!

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  26. I sure hope it was Action for Children that was on the forefront of Kates mind today and not France tbh. If Kate must talk in the language of fashion I can think of many more important statements she could be making not least supporting the anti-slavery work of Beulah. Its important to remember the Paris visit is in support of the UK gov and not an effort to simply earn acceptance amongst of the French. Its all about British diplomacy not French advocacy. I hope Kate never loses sight of this no matter how dazzled she is by the city of lights.

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  27. I think the skirt needs to be a few inches longer to look proportional- there's a photo of the suit on a model for the designer on another blog, and it looks much better in my opinion. This is better than the red blazer outfit though!

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  28. This is a terrific charity and it appears from the photographs that Kate is genuinely pleased to be their patron. That skirt is far too short - it's not professional and wouldn't be suitable for an office setting (not my office anyway!). Kate needs a little help at times, it seems some of her outfits are a little off the mark these days, including this one.

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  29. I think she looks great and I love it with the boots; looks young and fresh.

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  30. I like the suit, but I just don't find the skirt professional or appropriate, however I like the turtleneck sweater! The skirt and hair combination seems a bit childish. Queen Letizia wore a stunning pale pink skirt suit today--would love to see Kate in those polished Hugo Boss styles!

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    1. I looked up Queen Letizia and that suit, just wow!! I think Kate is gorgeous, but seeing photos of other royals from different countries, I wish she would lift her style game. I know there is so much more to her than fashion... but this is a fashion blog. She has so much potential but misses the mark - the style, the sophistication... sorry if this offends, it's just my personal opinion. Still a huge fan of hers :)

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    2. Wouldn't Kate look lovely in that pink suit? Letizia is hitting it out of the park during this state visit.

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  31. Love your comments about the outfit! They were on point!
    While I like the new styling, the Rhumba boots would have been better!
    Really nice interaction with the kids and Great post!
    Can´t wait to read your post with Ivanka,
    As I was telling Susan from What Kate Wore, Jane has an amazing point of view!

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  32. No. No. No. That ensemble. It is just off. All around. From the turtleneck to the boots, the odd design and.... it is way too short for a 35 year old woman, no matter how sensational her figure. I rarely come out and say that one of her outfits is totally off. I actually tend to like "weird Royal fashion moments" (in general, not just hers) that are, in their own way, a great quirky style on its own. But this was just....off. Silvia

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  33. Please, please, please don't cover Ivanka here unless she's actually meeting Catherine. Please don't bring US politics into a blog about British royalty for no reason. There are a lot of people who very much detest the current US first family. Create a separate blog for Ivanka if you want, but leave her off of this blog about Catherine.

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  34. Jane, for once I'm not with you! I loved this outfit with the boots - somehow for me, it was a great throwback to the old Kate Middleton outfits before she got married and I totally loved it, particularly with the contrasting earrings :)

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  35. I tend to think she looks "good enough" no matter what she's wearing. But, of course, her clothes have to fit and this jacket does NOT. It's an inch too high-waisted for her.

    The boots aren't flattering, but I see why she chose them. Heels would only have accentuated the fact that everything (waist, jacket length, and possibly skirt) is riding a little high.

    She's outgrown this suit. Time to take it to Goodwill.

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  36. Earlier in the week, I read an article commenting that Catherine had never been seen at any of the fashion shows taking place several times a year.
    I cannot believe that British designers never invited her, so I must assume she is not really interested.
    In my opinion, she dresses appropriately for whatever she is doing. I bet none of the little ones yesterday found fault with her outfit. The skirt would have been short had she worn it with pale tights, but the dark opaque hose and the block-heeled boots.
    The roll neck sweater would add warmth --storm Doris was forecast to hit S. Wales yesterday. Luckily just seemed to be raining when she arrived, but Doris has hit my neck of the woods today and it is pretty fierce.
    If you are looking for gutting edge fashion I suspect many are going to be disappointed much of the time.
    I like this site, because Jane gives us more than what Catherine is wearing.
    I have seen Catherine in Manchester twice--she is more beautiful than her photographs, but I think she must have charm, or something more than just good looks, or little children would not be giving her cuddles.

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    1. The front rows of fashion shows are full of celebrities there to be seen. That's probably something that Kate doesn't want to associate herself with. We have seen Kate work with designers like Sarah Burton to customize various designs. So it's not like a British designer would hang the phone up if Kensington Palace called asking to see various designs.

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  37. Jane, with all respect (you're an amazing woman and I love your blog and am proud you juggle it with your many passions and law degree), *please* don't make a habit out of posting about Ivanka Trump (I would have written this about Sasha Obama as well). I can't tell you how disappointed I would be to stop reading this blog. I really don't mind if politics/political figures pop up in posts, but devoting a full post on this blog to something so foreign to, literally 'from Berkshire to Buckingham' wouldn't do this blog any service. This blog is for Kate and Kate related things; Ivanka at a Supreme Court hearing doesn't fit.

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    1. I want to quickly tell you that I have received a lot of repossess to this post, both those excited for it and those opposed to it, and I put off posting last night to sleep on it. I found your argument (that non-Kate posts just don't fit this space) persuasive. I won't be posting the SCOTUS/Ivanka post here, because I agree that a blog should stick to its brand. I appreciate your thoughtful input in helping me resolve this. Jane B :)

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    2. Just a thought but would it be feasible to replace the little-used "Kate's Workout" link with "Jane's Life" or something similar? This would retain the purity of the. FBTB brand, but offer a space for other interesting aspects.

      I think the SCOTUS article would be fascinating.

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    3. Jane, FWIW I'd love to read your account of the Supreme Court hearing. I myself am interested in Ivanka. If you post it somewhere else I'd love a link to it.

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    4. I agree - and thank you, Jane. This is one of my favorite places to come for pure fashion and fandom and I love that indulgence (okay, the tone of comments the last few days have been pretty rough, but that's hopefully a minor blip in an otherwise excellent run)! I appreciate your keeping this blog politics-free.

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    5. Agree anon 9:05 and Jane. I thought about your proposed post, too. I know it must have come as a result of what was a very exciting day and was quite understandable. I know it would be a fascinating story, told by you. I really mean that. It just seemed strange in light of your remark about keeping politics out of the blog. I think six months down the road, such a post might have been less political. However, as Ivanka is appearing with her father and has an office in the White House and today we learn she literally has an agenda for proposing a bill, now may not be the time. If you do decide to go on with it at some point, I would truly enjoy it, partly because the SCOTUS is fascinating to me. I would suggest a companion post of a retrospective review of Ms. Obama's fashion might be interesting and soothe some ruffled feathers.

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    6. I agree. I would love to hear about it and think you can link it to make it clear using Kaye USA idea.

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    7. I too would love an Ivanka post. Please give us a link if you do post. She is gorgeous and I love her clothes. She has a great website with all sorts of posts for young women...interview advice, what to wear to the office, how to start an online business for high school or college students...etc.
      Her inaugural clothes were amazing!

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    8. Thank you, Jane for choosing not to post about the SCOTUS/Ivanka encounter. While it sounds fascinating, I reflect back to comment sections in previous posts. There have been times when readers have made political references that were rather quickly shut down by other readers. It is not everyone's cup of tea and would seem a bit unfair to those viewers whose previous political comments received negative perceptions.

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    9. Me too, I was really looking forward to the Ivanka post! Please let us know if you post it elsewhere!

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    10. Yes, please let us know where we can find your Ivanka (fashion) post!
      And props to Kaye USA for the great idea! It would indeed be perfect to have a sib category on the blog where you are musing about all kinds of things... and if some don't want to read it, they just don't click on it and everything is fine :)

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  38. Hello Jane, longtime reader first time leaving a comment.

    I liked this outfit a lot. It reminds me of what I actually wear to work. I seem to be in the minority, but I don't believe this skirt is too short- i'm actually wearing one a similar length today and I work in a very conservative environment. I've seen a lot of comments that echo my thoughts - that the turtleneck and boots make sense with the weather and that she's meeting with young people so this suit works well in that environment. It doesn't have the hard lines of a suit that would put people off or look too "business-y" and I really liked that about it.

    I have to say that while I understand its a fashion blog - this isn't runway fashion and it would be wrong of us to expect that of Catherine. She's fashionable without being a fashionista (sp? I may have invented several words in this post- I apologize, I haven't had a full cup of coffee yet). Her's is a style that I can actually draw on for real life without looking out of place or like i'm trying to copy something off the runway. I have always liked this aspect of her style and it is something that has stayed pretty consistent throughout her time in the spot light.

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    1. Leslie, I enjoyed your first comment :) I agree about her style being easy to emulate in real life (maybe with the exception of some of the pricier items in her wardrobe!). That's what first drew me to Kate, her effortless style/grace & unfussy way of dressing. She has kept to that formula to this day.

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    2. I agree, Leslie, definitely what I could wear to work also. I like when she dresses a bit more casual and it's definitely more comfortable for this type of c engagement.

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  39. What a wonderful day for Kate. She always exudes such love and caring for children. She is just a natural with them, and they respond so beautifully to her.
    Kate looked beautiful, as she always does. I liked the turtle neck with the jacket, but I am not a fan of the skirt. The color was great, and I'm sure she was warm in that cold, dank weather.

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  40. There are photos elsewhere of Kate struggling to keep her skirt down during this engagement (outside). I really think the skirt was too short for such a windy day (and too short for official duties at any time). It would be fine to wear this when she is not working. I do prefer it with the pumps.

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  41. That last photo is the best of the lot- the suit is perfectly proportioned to her body even though I, too, thought her skirt is a bit short. I thought so in 2012 and think so now. Someone suggested a midi length and then we'd all be carping at "too matronly". Then I think, add a tier. But then this suit looks like a lot of her others, just a different color. I am resigned to like (not love) this look as is. I am sure the designer is delighted that Kate showcased it to its best advantage. I prefer heels, but comfort is key for this engagement as Kate was moving a lot (sitting, standing, squatting, bending playing pool).

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  42. Long live Marvin! I know it's wishful thinking but I'd love if we caught a glimpse of him in the next batch of photos released of George and Charlotte at Anmer. Pets are so wonderful and I wonder what stories of Lupo an Marvin Geofge and Charlotte will tell when they are grown.

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    1. Haha, I'd love to see Marvin too :)

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    2. Kiwi Gal-fun idea!...although it may be Marvin II or III. Ha! Hamsters seem to have a short life span at times. I am seriously worried about Charlotte being turned loose with a hamster. Didn't she almost sit on that bunny at the play date?

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    3. LOL anon 1, I agree, it will probably be a Marvin 2.0 or something...Charlotte was very good with the rabbit, but I think she scared the dog a bit by bouncing on it :)

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    4. Haha! I forgot about the dog, Kiwi. Remember George with the butterfly? Quite a contrast. :+)

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    5. Haha, the poor dog! Yes, there's definitely a contrast between their little personalities, they're both such sweet kids :)

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  43. I'm happy to see the suit again. Keep them coming, Kate. ;-)

    And I like the turtleneck/tights/boots combination; it looks good and eliminates the need for a coat.

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    1. royalfan-I think avoiding dealing with a coat may have been the idea. I wonder if her PA did not make the trip to Wales and Kate had to reduce fuss and bother? A suit jacket is not an outer coat and one can wear that inside. The sweater was likely part of the coat-avoidance effort. I do think those boots look somewhat strange and awkward. I believe her other boots have higher heels, however, and she may have decided a flat heel was best on this occasion. I like the pumps with this outfit but if she was wanting a flat heel and the warmth and leg-coverage of a boot, I imagine this was the better choice.

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    2. Anon 1, I do prefer her other boots (with heels), but perhaps she heard some of the yawns directed at that particular pair and left them in her closet. Ha!

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  44. She looked great, but perhaps this suit is a bit dated. It reminds me of the baby doll trend, some years ago now. Long legs, shrunken top part. We do not see this proportion anymore, I just realised that. This suit was very fashionable 6 years ago, I guess that is why it doesn't stand the test of the time as well as her more classical pieces. But still, she was perfectly beautiful and appropriate

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  45. I can't wait to read your post about seeing Ivanka & Arabella! She is a beautiful woman with such an elegant style and I am so happy for you that you got to meet her :)

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  46. As much as I would enjoy coverage of Ivanka, I fear that it would become the ultimate troll magnet. Sigh.

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    1. Isn't Kate the ultimate troll magnet, royalfan? Unless you meant reverse-trolling: instead of transient blog visitors finding fault with each and every real and imagined detail...

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    2. Oh, without a doubt, Anon 1. I was thinking about a blog dedicated to Ivanka (only). I was not comparing... :)

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    3. I have a feeling we'll have plenty of time to admire Ivanka. She seems to be making the appearances that a first lady usually makes, She was at a baseball game with her father and beside him greeting foreign dignitaries recently.

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  47. This outfit looks completely appropriate for the event and the weather.

    I have noticed that Americans often complain that Kate's black tights are not quite stylish. I am wondering if this is something that is more popular in England than in the States. Has anyone researched this?

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    1. This American loves the look. :-) And, for the record, I have seen it in the northeast.

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    2. I live in the U.S. northeast too and see opaque black tights all the time. It is a staple of mine during the colder months. I think it streamlines the whole look.

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  48. Not sure if anyone else mentioned this already: I thought it was a bit odd that people were using their phones to take photos or video of Kate when she was inside (playing pool). You can see them in the video. I'm not sure what the protocol is, but it seems inappropriate to me. Outside fine, but inside...?

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    1. I agree, Jay, it is a bit disturbing. I imagine only those who did not mind being included in photos took part, if cameras were allowed. Otherwise there might br a confidentiality problem. I also think there were likely some guidelines laid down about picture-taking.

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    2. I admit that it would be too tempting not to... ☺

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    3. I guess if it were paps/reporters, you expect them to start taking photos. But with "regular" people--to see them grabbing their phones and recording (especially inside)--it just feels more intrusive somehow. I'm sure she is used to it by now, but it feels wrong to me.

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  49. Well I like it!!! Not crazy about the all black she likes to go with but the suit itself is gorgeous!!! I love the boots too, but she might should have gone with heels?? Oh well! Yes, it's short but dang she's not a nun she's a princess/duchess in her 30's!!!! Either she dresses too frumpy and old or too short and young!!!! Hey how about if you have nothing nice to say then zip it!!! She's having fun and looks beautiful and comfy while doing her job!!! Get over yourselves always complaining!!!!! Kate the Great has struck again!!πŸ˜‰

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  50. I think Kate would look great in some wide legged pants suits!! I wish she'd wear more of those!! It is clear however that she loves her dresses and skirts!! And belts are now the accessory must have, well that's what I read anyway.. The more bold the better it seems.. Yikes!!! I've don't pay much attention to other Royal Families but Queen Letiza knocks it out of the park in nearly every picture I've seen of her... I really think it's time for Kate to keep her staple items British and go for some different designers like Valentino or Hermes or Vera Wang etc etc etc...

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  51. I so wish someone would advise Kate to show less leg. There's a time and a place! It really shows a lack of maturity and poor judgement in my opinion.

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  52. How disappointing. I am completely confused how an intelligent woman aged 35 can wear this outfit for an work event. Never mind a royal duty event.

    One last thought. Last time we saw her wearing ridiculously short skirts she was pregnant. That's the only excuse I can find (hormones).

    And I do mean all this respectfully. For all the maturity she had shown lately, the lack of consideration she shows for royal tradition is surely surprising. This isn't modern, sorry. It's just the manifestation of someone looking to grab attention (and for sure she didn't need to do it this way).

    Petrina P
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  53. I know it is the same suit, but somehow it fit her better the first time she wore it. I am not sure why. She did look a bit bigger, but it is hard to judge by the pictures.
    The entire piece looks somehow awkward. I am no professional stylist, but the items don't go together. It would just be easier to wear a nice business suit as a fool proof option.
    I also don't recall her wearing casual boots like that to a formal event before. I could be wrong...
    Either way, she looks like she really enjoyed being there and interacting with everyone.

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  54. People blast Kate when she wears short skirts and also when she wears longer ones! Complaints about her hair, makeup, footwear, etc. are unending and merciless. Some feel justified to relentlessly pull her apart because this is a fashion blog, and of course, when one anonymously comments in a fashion blog, one is given divine license to be intolerant and mean. Kate is even being accused here of lacking consideration to royal traditions and of being an attention-grabber! Jane, more than a few of the comments that appear here are truly nasty and harsh; I am surprised that you have allowed them!

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    1. Anonymous - there's a difference between not liking a skirt because one doesn't like how it looks and not liking the choice because it seems inappropriate. For me, the inappropriate thing is in a different category than fashion preference. Also, whether or not it is attention-grabbing, the fact is that this is the perception it creates. The fact that so many commenters - ones like me who normally love Kate's style - have commented on the short length, suggests that there might be something in this. If we, Kate fans think it's too short then imagine what the wider population might think. If we were all to post positive comments the whole time, this blog would quickly become very dull in my opinion.

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    2. The meaning of "appropriate" is not cast in stone and is open to opinion, just as fashion preferences. What was appropriate for HM as a young woman is not so now. What is appropriate for Beatrice to wear at a club may not work at a memorial service. There is a protocol established for various formal royal events-black-tie, white-tie, court dress . I believe what one wears to other official and charity events is open-ended. If the Queen doesn't apparently tell her what is appropriate, I'm not sure how a blog commenter qualifies, unless the advice is given as strictly opinion and not as a declaration of infraction of some unknown code. Apparently, there are different ideas of the meaning of a "fan," as well.Also worth noting is that many of the comments were written as anonymous; who knows how many actual commenters? That is one of my concerns with anonymous comments-an anon barrage can be engineered to appear as though many different commenters agreeing. For that matter, names can easily be changed. This I know from my own past experience. Ha! I would hesitate to use blog comments as a referendum on any subject.

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    3. I never said I was qualified to tell her it was appropriate. I was offering my opinion, which I believe is the purpose of this comments section. Wow, this is not a religion or some kind of cult. One can still be a "fan" and occasionally think that something was inappropriate. I agree that this is also subjective but it IS different to fashion taste. Someone saying whether they like or dislike long skirts versus short ones is totally different to having an opinion on whether it is appropriate for a woman of her age and position. Unless you are related to Kate or a friend of hers, I really don't see why this would make you so apparently upset and indignant.

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    4. "Unless the advice is given as strictly opinion..." That's what I said. Thanks for clarifying your remark. It seemed to me you were saying appropriateness was in a different category than preference-therefore not a matter of opinion.

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  55. The people that are roasting the Duchess of Cambridge alive for wearing a "short" skirt should remember that we are living in the year 2017 of the 21st Century. The Duchess' legs are encased in tights and boots (no skin showing at all), but some still complaint. Also, many of you judge the Duchess' choices of attire based on what you like or not like to wear yourselves (you do the same with her hair and make-up too.) This is so tyrannical and totally unfair! And, please do not reply to my comment stating that this is a fashion blog and that you are only commenting on the Duchess' fashion, not on her person, therefore your cruel and unfounded swipes at her are somehow validated.
    I am astounded to see that you have deluded Jane (???) into permitting your callous and outrageous comments in her blog. At least, when one reads the Daily Mail, one knows that trolls of all shapes and sizes will surely be found there. But here, in this blog so meticulously moderated in order to exclude all the nasty crawlers? I think that perhaps Jane is doing her moderating duties with one eye open and the other closed. Too Bad!!!

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    1. Yes, it is 2017. And I don't see the problem if this (below) was perfectly acceptable in 1995. As a matter of fact, note the similarities.

      http://www.gettyimages.com/photos/princess-diana-centrepoint-january-13-1995?excludenudity=false&family=editorial&page=1&phrase=princess%20diana%20centrepoint%20january%2013%201995&sort=newest

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    2. I love Diana’s outfits there! You are right, there are some similarities!
      I did not think that Kate’s skirt was too short, but I think the biggest concern here is that Kate chooses to go for the color red. According to this website -> http://www.colour-affects.co.uk/psychological-properties-of-colours the color red is described as this:
      RED. Physical
      Positive: Physical courage, strength, warmth, energy, basic survival, 'fight or flight', stimulation, masculinity, excitement.
      Negative: Defiance, aggression, visual impact, strain.
      Being the longest wavelength, red is a powerful colour. Although not technically the most visible, it has the property of appearing to be nearer than it is and therefore it grabs our attention first. Hence its effectiveness in traffic lights the world over. Its effect is physical; it stimulates us and raises the pulse rate, giving the impression that time is passing faster than it is. It relates to the masculine principle and can activate the "fight or flight" instinct. Red is strong, and very basic. Pure red is the simplest colour, with no subtlety. It is stimulating and lively, very friendly. At the same time, it can be perceived as demanding and aggressive.

      For this reason, red is not recommended in places where you are trying to achieve harmony, tranquility, etc. You will never see it in the hospitals or around people with mental problems. Even around children this color must be limited. Because red is a very intense color and not many people like it. A clear example of how red amplifies everything is this picture of 2 identical dresses, 1 is black and the other is red:

      https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/564x/7b/59/39/7b5939ff4847bcabff552499ec218cdd.jpg

      As a person, and particularly a public figure, you have to pay close attention to what you are trying to say with your look. Every part of your appearance such as makeup, hairstyle, clothes and the colors you chose tell a story to others and you have to be mindful of that. I bet that skirt people claim is too short wouldn’t look so if it wasn’t red. It’s just psychological factors that are there and have to be kept in mind.

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    3. Royalfan, she was at Centrepoint. The argument that it doesn't somehow count since she was on her own time cannot be applied here.

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    4. Thanks for the link royalfan. I think picture 3 & 4 at this link are of Diana at the same visit. http://theprincessdianafan2.skyrock.mobi/2968826445-Janvier-1995.html

      Personally I don't think there is much similarity between Diana and Kate's outfits other than both wore flat shoes, black tights, turtlenecks and above the knee skirts. Diana's skirt is a fitted/"pencil" style and appears to me to be a wee bit longer than Kate's. But even if it's not longer, what makes Kate's skirt *appear* so short is the "cheerleader/skater" skirt style coupled with the very short jacket. It ALL just looks too small, juvenile, and the skirt style appears more vulnerable to hiking up from weather events and bending over. (Plenty of photos available elsewhere of Kate having to hold it down outside in the wind. If it had been windy during Diana's visit, I doubt she would have had  to clutch the sides of the skirt.) Kate has certainly worn short skirts/dresses many times before--some fairly recently-- without any outcry here. So I think it's the style of the skirt. At least it was for me. 

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    5. anonymous 5:34-very interesting article. Someone should have told Betsy Ross the flag should have been pink, white, and blue when she created the American flag, as American school children stand and salute it every morning-(-or did. Is that still done?) I understand about the saying that politicians should wear red ties to show strength; however, this may be a stretch applied to this rather muted burgundy shade. I've also read about red balloons being most attractive to children and wearing bright colors around them.

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    6. Anon 5:34, I admit to not being a psychologist or a fashion designer, but I will make two points here... :-)

      First, I don't think that Kate's suit is red; I see it as more of a warm, autumnal color, hence the citrine earrings.

      And, second, I do beg to differ about some of the arguments against wearing the color red, especially around children. Pictures speak louder than words, IMO...

      http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2014/10/02/1412247549247_Image_galleryImage_Diana_Princess_of_Wales_m.JPG

      http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2014/10/02/1412248549316_Image_galleryImage_ROYAL_Diana_Hosp_Camilla_.JPG

      https://www.google.com/search?q=princess+diana+red+hospital.&biw=1600&bih=770&tbm=isch&tbo=u&source=univ&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwizsLS_iK_SAhWEF8AKHTKVBigQsAQIGQ#imgrc=1CU32CdVN6HyCM:

      http://images.closerweekly.com/uploads/images/file/27060/princess-diana.jpg?fit=crop&w=720

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    7. Anon 1, exactly! :-)

      Lizzie, the photos are from the same visit; I included them as you can see different angles. And while I understand your point about the cut of Kate's skirt, I do think the skirt length/turtleneck/black tights/flat shoes of Diana's outfit is more similar than dissimilar regarding appropriateness for a royal visit.

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    8. Well, I suspect Anon1 the reasons for using red/orange on flags may relate to the point Anon 5:34 is making. "Hot" colors can "work people up" and certainly that may be the goal when creating a flag to encourage feelings of nationalism/patriotism-- the US flag was not created for schoolchildren, after all. And it is true some schools in the US forbid the use of red ink when correcting student papers because it can be perceived as hostile. It is also true that medical and psyc wards avoid the use of red because it can have negative effects. (There is a reason restaurants and bars DO use red...more consumption!) But even given all that, it's quite a stretch to say Kate should not have worn a red shade or that the color explains posters' objections to the outfit.

      royalfan..I still think its the style not the actual length :)

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    9. Lizzie, I never knew that about red pens not being used to grade schoolwork. OMG. The world has gone mad. What's next...no red traffic lights to keep adults from becoming upset? As a society, we should just wave the white flag now. πŸ™

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    10. Personally, I think Red has gotten a bad rap. It started with the popular belief that the red of a bull fighters cape angered the bull when it actually is the waving and flapping of the cape. I think bulls are colorblind, anyway. Strange how these ideas get started and spread. It is the expression "red penciling" and the reference to disapproval, not the color red that is disliked. Then, the Communist or Bolshevik movement was called "Red," and the opposition "White." All I am saying, is give red a break. Were Genifer Godwin and Viola Davis both wearing red as some kind of power statement? Should we invoke the parental censoring on reruns of Oscar fashions in fear that our children may be traumatised?

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    11. PS- Full Disclosure: I may be prejudiced. "Simply Red" is one of my favorite singing groups. Red Skelton was my favorite comedian. I was a Red Head, back in the day. A lot of Red history there.

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    12. I agree the ban against red pen marking may go too far royalfan! But there is something to the psychology of color I think (not related to Kate's maroon outfit IMO) But here is an interesting link on red

      https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/how-the-color-red-influences-our-behavior/

      (The study on bulls is pretty interesting Anon1)

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    13. A thought.... Are we giving the gents a reason not to buy RED roses? πŸ˜” Sorry...had to go there. πŸ˜€

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    14. Valentines are red. Every thing about Valentines is red-candy boxes, cards, royalfan's red roses...Does that mean one is angry when one gives such a gift? Perhaps we should guard our children against Valentines. Christmas colors in the US are often red and green-aggression, power display? ...Hahaha, lizzie- one can prove just about anything from internet sources.

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    15. I'm all for red roses - passionate emotion isn't always a negative ;$

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    16. SANTA CLAUS? I rest my case.

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    17. Anon 1, I think Santa calls for a HA! πŸ˜€

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    18. PS SANTA CLAUS dressed in red from head to toe... aggression or sexuality, lizzie?

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    19. Red has long been associated with the clergy (and royalty) because of power (which is often obtained by force at least historically) Santa = St. Nick, a bishop. But regardess, doesn't Santa's suit "excite" children? It is probably not all culture...very small children will reach for red objects more quickly than some others. My only point was that there IS real science behind human responses to color. Not that the science of color explains everything in the world. But I rest my case too Anon 1 since you have done so already.

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    20. Lizzie, I'm not dismissing science, but like many things these days, we can take it too far and end up sitting on our hands when common sense goes out the window. And I suspect that you agree with me. :-)

      And, with all this talk of RED, me thinks I will enjoy a glass of Merlot....

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    21. Yep, that's true royalfan! :) But in some ways it all comes down to "A" for arousal..whether it's attraction, attention, aggression, sexual arousal, gustatory arousal- drinking, eating..

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    22. I will join you in spirit(s) Royalfan. Yes,lizzie and royalfan-I think we have plumbed the depths of RED for now. Besides, those words from the 50's, "Better Red than dead" keep lurking in the darker reaches of my mind.....I do prefer a very dry Sherry, royalfan.

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    23. 😊 A Golden Girls moment sans the cheesecake and coffee. Sounds good ladies. 🍷🍸🍹

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  56. Scientific American (the link I sent) is quite reputable, Anon 1. They distill scientific articles for the general public. I can send links to original works published in scholarly journals but those are not so readable. Simply because something can be found on the internet doesn't make it poor quality!

    The anonymous poster who brought up the color issue suggested red should not be worn around children--not me! The scientific work on color has shown evidence of the effects of red on aggression (see article for evidence re: cows/bulls), increased appetite, but also certainly sexuality......so red makes perfect sense for Valentines Day. As the article indicates, no one is saying these effects are huge...they won't turn "normal" kids into aggressive tyrants but putting upset angry children into a red rooms is likely to extend the negative mood for many of the kids. (But a bad childhood doesn't always result in a mentally unhealthy adult either so no effect applies to everyone)

    Red walls in a Psyc ward won't cause mental disorder but may increase temporarily what is already there (and psyc "quiet" rooms are usually white or maybe light blue) Likewise, red walls at restaurants won't make those ordering salad only into folks who order 5-course meals instead. But red walls may cause a few diners here, a few there to decide to order appetizers or desserts. Finally, plenty of well-done experimental work has shown the effects of red on sexual attraction...from animal work to human work. But no, that doesn't mean that seeing a stoplight makes anyone a raging sex predator.

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