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Harry Hugs Meghan at Audi Polo Challenge

Sunday, May 7, 2017

Another day at the Audi Polo Challenge and both William and Harry played. Obviously, we were hoping that Kate might make an appearance, but it doesn't sound like she did. Meghan was there, however, as you would expect. Who flew across the Atlantic to sit home for day 2? Not this girl. 


She was snapped giving Harry a hug, appropriately by an Audi. This is the picture we were cheated of yesterday, because if there is one thing that happens at polo, it's sweaty hugs. 


Isn't it a funny world where someone hugging their girlfriend is a headline? :)  Kensington Palace gamely tried to get the focus off the hugging and onto the match, but it is a lost cause. I admire their tenacity, though.


154 comments:


  1. Taking two little ones to the polo is a bit difficult and William is playing.There are a lot of large horses about.I hoped we might see Miss Markle giving her a hand.
    However, I expect she may be helping with the wedding arrangements or rehearsing the children..

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    1. I expect you're right, Jean, that there are so many things on the plate right now that a trip to the polo fields isn't in the cards. With Meghan there the media attention is also heightened so I suspect that is not an ideal time to have to keep track of two little ones on the sidelines.

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    2. She may have some final prep work and/or fittings for her Luxembourg trip in four days, followed by a BP event. And her sister's wedding soon. And soaking up hugs and reading stories, feeding pets.---:+]---
      She will likely stay the night before at KP. She will have an early departure for her solo engagements.

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    3. AND...perhaps it was a better idea for Meghan to enjoy her own "moment" without the inevitable Kate vs. Meghan comparisons in the headlines.

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    4. I think it's probably not appropriate for Kate or any other senior Royal to be seen in public with Meghan prior to an engagement.
      I also hope they're saving their first public appearance together for an important event. The internet will explode when this happens.
      I made a comment yesterday regarding the two women's style and wrote that Meghan's style was fashionable and fun and that Kate was not into fashion. I apologize if my comment seemed insensitive. What I meant to say was not Kate is not into trends. She is certainly well-dressed and elegant and I (along with her gazillion fans) love seeing her. She always brings a smile to my face. Furthermore Kate does leave her comfort zone when appropriate - say for arts events. Personally, I hate trendy looks. But they're fun to see from time to time. Kate's understated style (and she does have "style") is more aligned with my own personal style and I can't wait to see her next big tour.
      I am exited at the prospect of seeing a William-Kate Australia/Canada tour, followed a few months later (given us time to catch our breath) by a Meghan-Harry Caribbean tour with lots of tropical styles (very different from what I will see on Kate's tours by virtue of continents alone).
      I live in the sub-tropics, so I'm really excited about the prospect of such Harry-Meghan tours and not yet knowing what to expect of Meghan in terms of royal style just adds to the excitement. I have great hope that she'll do well in her style choices for those tours since she lived in L.A. and is hopefully adept at dressing for warm climates.
      Two very different, stylish young women -- can't contain my excitement!

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    5. Not sure where you get that theory. Kate was seen in public with many members of the family long before she was ever engaged to William.

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    6. Who? And when? You may be right but I just don't recall that.

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  2. I have a feeling with this Kate and Meghan blog. Although I don't mind because I'm following Meghan now myself. I don't think your readers mind either

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    1. I don't mind because I like Jane's style of writing but will be glad when we go back to Kate. I'd like to be interested in Meghan to join the fun but cannot...

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    2. Anon 4:10 Jane can go back to Kate when Kate starts popping up again in pap shots or has an engagement(s). ;-). She isn't NOT reporting on Kate to favor Meghan. Meghan is who we saw out this weekend.

      ~ A

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    3. Since Kate doesn't seem to plan on doing anything for the rest of the month I certainly hope Meghan makes an appearance so we have something to discuss!

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  3. Jane love your sweaty hugs line! Will you keep doing MM stories on your Kate blog or start another? Or just merge both to a royal women type blog.

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  4. Hopefully we'll see Kate out at polo some other day. Usually she attends the Father's Day weekend polo with the kids (or at least she has 2 out of the last 3 years).

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  5. This makes my day, seeing Prince Harry so happy, and life progressing with his Lady Love.

    I'm sure everything about this event--aside from competing and winning, was designed to introduce Meghan publicly for the first time. These public introductions of her will progress strategically, to gradually include more family members and events, but this was her debut, so no Catherine or kids to water down her headlines.

    The British tabloids are vipers, and the reason for The Firm's careful step-by-step PR strategy. They are making sure Meghan is incorporated and accepted correctly.

    And that's a good sign.

    Belle

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    1. I completely agree. William set a great example of supporting Kate and slowly building up her role/exposure. That will no doubt assist Harry in doing the same thing. It allows Meghan to see Harry doing something he loves. It also exposes her to the types of crowds/people, possible protocol, media attention, etc.
      ~ A

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  6. Sweaty polo hugs by an Audi! So reminiscent!:)
    (Edit request: *Flew [all the way across the Atlantic])
    Great post as always Jane!

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    1. Oh my gosh. I am laughing and embarrassed. When I saw your comment I started thinking, how else would I have spelled flew? Flu? I thought no, even distracted I wouldn't make that mistake. Flough...no that's not a word. I thought, what could it be...flied. I have no idea how that happened. :(

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  7. Also, with Kate presumably in Norfolk this weekend it would be a bigger undertaking to get to this match. She is going to Luxembourg this week so I imagine she just wanted to be home. As the Duchess of Cambridge, it is a huge public event to attend, with celebrities and lots of mingling and talking and being photographed, security, PPOs, etc. That doesn't seem to be what our Duchess truly enjoys. She is much more likely to turn up at the more casual polos (jeans, breton shirts, children).

    I think Jane has put it well in her blog entries - we can't turn this into a competition or comparison every time these two women are (or aren't) at events.

    That said, I am so so happy to see Meghan here 2 days in a row. Wish we could get some better pictures from today. Let's hope she stays in the UK until after Pippa's wedding, then perhaps makes a permanent move once shooting for Suits is officially over.

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    1. Exactly! Two different women; you can't compare! Also, she helps fill in the Kate voids when Kate is MIA :-)
      ~ A

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  8. If Meghan moves to the UK permantly, I wonder if she will look for a job?

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    1. I don't believe so. Charity work...yes.

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    2. Charity work is already part of her "job" passion. I think she will ramp up with that. However, we may see her taking on "work" supporting the arts. Kate recently went to a West End show, and Kate and the boys have visited the Warner Bros studios, but maybe Meghan will step in to support the arts more. She has an intimate understanding of everything that goes into entertainment and show biz, so she can relate and possibly channel her creative side.
      ~ A

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    3. She might not be able to work depending on what type of visa she is able to get.

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    4. But won't she be a UK citizen if she marries Harry? Would not need a visa. If she moves before marriage I think she can get a visa that would allow her to work for up to a year. Can not imagine if she moves before marriage they would need any longer than that to decide if the relationship was a marriage one:).

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  9. Please forgive me, but let's talk astrology.
    Have you ever noticed that the core members of the Br Royal Family are all Earth and Water signs? They're comfortable with each other, a closed group.
    Water: Charles(Scorpio), Camilla(Cancer), William(Cancer), Edward(Pisces), Peter Phillips(Scorpio),even Pr George(Cancer).
    Earth: The Queen(Taurus), Kate(Capricorn), Sophie(Capricorn), Harry(Vigro), baby Charlotte(Taurus), Autumn Phillips (Taurus).
    The only outliers are Phillip (Gemini)(who has always felt apart?) and princess Anne (Leo).
    So I am concerned for my fellow American, Meghan the Leo, that she is going to a new country with no long-time
    friends, no family for support (as Kate has) and with an outsiders headwind. Piers Morgan, Beatrice and Euge may not be enough. She'll need all her acting skills.

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  10. I'm not an expert in astrology, but I do agree that Meghan would/will not have the same support system. Harry truly will have to be her Prince.

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    1. Agreed, she won't have the same support system. HOWEVER, what I have read/heard about her is that in Toronto she has created a tight knit "family" with her friends. She may be very good at building relationships. That doesn't mean the BRF and that upper crust of British society will be as easy to bond with, but I think she has potential.
      ~ A

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    2. She may not have family in the U.K. but we don't know what her support system actually is. There are planes and cell phones and we have no information about the relationships she may have established internationally either before or since meeting Harry. It seems presumptuous to claim that since her life doesn't look like Kate's she is lacking in what she herself needs for support or would be isolated. Diana had a U.K. Based "support system" and look how that turned out.

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    3. Noted, however, to qualify as a support system for a (soon to be?) member of the RF, one has to 1000% trustworthy and discreet. And someone/anyone in MM's current position will find out who the true friends are...

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    4. The discretion issue is true for any public figure, not just the BRF. Although not as high profile as the BRF Meghan has already had to negotiate a more public role than many other people so I would bet that she has already had some experience sorting out true friends.

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    5. Making friends in Toronto is very easy. Completely different from England and in particular the upper class society. Wether you see it or not, even Kate had a hard time getting through. Megan will have a terrible difficult time trying to 'fit in'. The people she made friends with in Toronto couldn't be more different from the circles she will need to move in. I think Harry will have to abandon some of his old pals and learn how to be part of a significantly (if not opposed) social group, one that Meghan identifies with. Hard thing to do for both of these young people.


      Wishing them all the luck and real support from both sides.

      Royal fan in Northern Ontario

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    6. Anon 11:57 in Northern Ontario
      Do you think Harry would abandon his friends? William didn't for Kate. She keeps her distance from some, but he still chooses to travel with and associate himself with people who have been unfriendly towards her. Kate loves that man so much.
      ~ A

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    7. Friendships can and do shift when people get married, but I don't see him abandoning anyone (now or in the future) unless they are disrespectful towards his girlfriend/wife.

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  11. Sigh. Today we got a photo of them being affectionate, but today we didn't get a good view of her and her outfit. I'm glad she was able to make it to England and could participate in something Harry is so passionate about! Gives her more insight into what his life is like.

    ~ A

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    1. I love your first two sentences... so true and so funny!!

      Daphne

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  12. Harry seems to be introducing Meghan gradually into his public circle. Things are moving along, and if she is a guest at the wedding ceremony, as was reported earlier, then they are headed to a more serious and lasting relationship. I truly hope things work out for Harry in the long run.

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  13. So just catching up on the last two posts. Very excited to see MM at this event. I won't make any speculation on whether they are or are not engaged as I am happy to just enjoy following their relationship as it unfolds. Particularly pleased to see PH happy!

    I am very much a fan of Mehgan's style. She seems to have the ability to take classic chic pieces and put them together for a youthful but sophisticated look. While she is a friend of Jessica Mulroney's (wife of Ben Mulroney, son of former Prime Minister of Canada Brian Mulroney)who is supposedly a stylist (I don't know that for a fact...just what I have heard) my sense is that alot of what we see is Meghan's own choices. I do think it is possible that some of what we see is "borrowed" from designers. In fact I suspect alot of the products she promoted on her blog were ones where there was mutually beneficial business arrangement (ie: you promote my product on your blog and I will give you some free merchandise) That is not to say that she didn't believe in the products...but I don't for a moment think that there was not a "business" aspect to her blog. Which is fine by me. I have said it before on this blog and I will say it again I think that she will be a great asset to the BRF if she chooses to take that on.

    Bristowmom...I want to give a specific shoutout to you. I saw your comment on on the last post and I have to say that I very much respect that. I think it takes alot of character to admit that you have had a change of mind. Thank you for that.

    I am dreading the awful comparisons that the media is going to make between Kate and Meghan. You know that they are going to have a field day with this. I personally hope these two women become the closest of friends and huge support for each other. They have different personalities and traits and together they could really be positive support system for each other.

    In terms of the dress...I love the navy and white combination...love the top half of the dress...not sure about the bottom half. It looks very busy. The clutch is very cute...So wish we could see the shoes! Seriously with that many photographers there could we not get one decent picture of the shoes? Is that too much for a girl to ask for?

    Any rate..Jane as much as this is a Kate blog and I am a Kate fan...thank you for covering MM and PH today. It was a cold wet rainy day where I live but I was secretly cheering them on as I ran errands in my new Barbour coat and Jennifer Meyers initial necklace!

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    1. I was perplexed about the photos too. They are all grainy, so I don't think photons were close enough or had the best equipment for shots of someone that far from their post.
      ~ A

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    2. I saw photos this morning of H&M kissing at yesterday's match. Harry's red-headed mentor was standing beside Meghan on Saturday and was standing next to them when they hugged & kissed yesterday. I am going to assume he is firmly in their (Harry's) corner and was "taking care" of Meghan to ensure she had someone showing her around and keeping her company. I mean that in the nicest way. Nice of both guys to ensure Meghan feels welcome!

      Further to the Fug Girls speculation, if this relationship culminates into a marriage they have material for another book! lol

      ~ A

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    3. Hi Laura,

      So you have to tell me about your Jennifer Meyers' necklace! Is this your first piece, why did you buy it, do you notice her a lot with celebs and did that effect your purchase? Not the celeb part but just being exposed more to her jewelry. She's everywhere if you know her face.

      She fascinates me. Do the celebs buy from her because of her Dad? What appeals about her stuff to us normal people?

      I don't know anyone else who has her stuff so I had to ask. Feel free not answer, no pressure! I do love Barbour too.

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  14. I was a follower of Diana's, then Kate, and now Meghan's. I like all three.

    But I must say that I can't wait for their engagement announcement. Simply because so many seem to be against (without cause) her. I read the comments and the silly remarks... and I laugh...

    It's sad that, as mostly women on here, there is the need by some to attack Meghan and sanctify Kate. There is enough room for both... enough love for both... I really think this topic on this board is a microcosm of what's wrong with women sometimes.

    So, I look forward to the engagement announcement and the backlash to be read on here. Or maybe there will be silence? With so many too upset to comment on the subject.

    Team Diana, Kate, and Meghan

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    1. Wow. Big round of applause for your comment. I share your thoughts but couldn't say it nearly as well as you. Thank you.
      A fellow D,K&M fan.

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    2. Way to go!!!

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    3. I'm sorry but I think you are misunderstanding what people have been saying about Meghan.

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    4. I don't think she has anonymous at 6:59.

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    5. I don't think so anon 7:59. I have read all the replies on all the posts and none have been silly or attacks on Ms. Markle. All reservations have been well explained with cause and plausible explanations. Nobody said she is not a good fit for the royal family but they have said the BRF may not be a good fit for her.

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    6. Anon 10:31, is your statement an attack on the BRF then?
      I don't know who is or isn't a good fit for whom...simply worlds apart.This is fact, no judgement.

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    7. That's an interesting interpretation Anon 10:31. The comments made about Kate prior to her marriage - non-aristocrat, relatively new wealth, mother who was an air stewardess - seem to also fall under "maybe the BRF isn't a good fit" by your logic. However the common consensus is that those comments about Kate were inappropriate.

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    8. Not attacking anything or passing judgement anon 12:26. Just being realistic.

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    9. Anon 2:31 I think Kate's assimilation into the BRF has not been stress free and I'm sure she has encountered snobbery in its highest form. I think the road will be tougher for Meghan. It is not only the royal family she will have to deal with but courtiers, the household and the aristocracy all of which is the greatest form of elitism. Maybe she will adjust easily. Maybe she will not. No one knows. I can not imagine an independent women used to calling her own shots and living life exactly as she wants, adjusting to royal life painlessly while having to put up with all the restrictions, limitations and isolation
      that come with it for the rest of
      her life all the while dealing with nastiness from others. Marriage is tough anyway without all those factors. We all want Harry to be happy and if she is the one then that is great but I don't think it is going to be all hearts and flowers, and I don't think we should be romanticizing it.

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    10. *My* interpretation of 10:31's comment was that people are NOT suggesting that MM is not good enough for the RF...it's more about the downside of living life as a member of the Firm.

      Correct me if I am wrong... :-)

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    11. Kate has had to adjust to all those things too and her relationship has been highly romanticized. My point is that there seems to be a double-standard being applied to Meghan.

      Anon 2:31.

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    12. And....my point is made.

      Anon 4:37
      Team Diana, Kate, and Meghan

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    13. I guess. But by that reasoning Harry needs to marry a dependent, inexperienced 16 yr old who still lives with her parents. Maybe an arranged marriage with a royal from another country? I guess that's what royals used to do but it usually didn't work out too well for the women back then either! (Nor did it work out for Diana who WAS still a teenager when she married an older prince.)

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    14. When a mean person doesn't want to tell someone the truth and wants to hide their real intentions, they say, "Oh, it's not you, it's me!" (Side eye) And no one believes them.

      It's not Meghan who wouldn't "fit in", it's the royal family who wouldn't fit Meghan. Rightttt.

      That's called trying to keep people out and people down. I'm disgusted.

      I wonder what Harry and Meg's new title will be?

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    15. What I am reading is that some think Meghan might have to deal with some real adjustment issues due to, not being British, not having been raised in a similar income bracket, not having dealt with the pomp and ceremony of Royal Life, not having a similar background of many of Harrys friends (boarding school, horses, household help etc.) plus dealing with some of those snotty people that we all run into no matter what our background. Harry if he moved from the Uk, gave up his title and money and moved in with Megaha in the USA would deal with the same issues of adjusting to a very different lifestyle on a daily basis.

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    16. Anon 6:06, you repeatedly and, I believe, deliberately misunderstand what is being said here. You are assigning ill intent where there is none using rather strong language. You have some sort of agenda and an odd investment in this woman becoming part of the BRF imo.

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    17. Meghan was privately educated even if it wasn't a boarding school

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    18. Thats exactly what I'm trying to say royalfan. Anon 4:22.

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    19. 10:05,
      That's really rough. From looking at these comments, a lot agree with Anon 6:06. Because it's not your point of view, you accuse 6:06 of deliberately misunderstanding. And having an "odd investment" in making Meghan part of the RF.
      So, do those that don't like her have an odd investment in not making her a part of the RF?
      Hate to break it to you, but no one on here has any effect on whether she becomes a member of that family or not. And I'm pretty sure most realize that.

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    20. True but the private schools she attended are a far cry from the very elite private schools, boarding or not that the "upper crust" in the UK or frankly in the USA attend. Even in the US the more comparable private super elite grade schools, middle schools and high schools are on the East Coast. I assumed part of the reason William and Catherine picked the private grade school for their kids that they did is that it appears to draw from a more diverse economic group and "social class" group of students than many of the long established schools in the UK. Things are changing in both the US and the Uk but it is still slow:).

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    21. Anon 2:31. I don't think there is a double standard anon 2:31. They are really different women coming from completely different life experiences.

      And anon 4:37, have no idea what point you think is being made.

      Lizzie, your points are all valid. Remember when Harry said in an interview that no one wants the job of marrying into the BRF because of everything they would have to give up? Its true. Very few people would sign up for a lifetime commitment of all it entails. Kate has tolerated and lost ALOT for her position. I'm just wondering if Meghan will be willing to do that as well. Also, its not like Meghan can come in and shake things up and be a Diana- like princess right off the bat. She will have to start slowly and conform to the expectations of the institution for a very long time before she can carve out a more individual and less traditional type of role that would be of interest to her.

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    22. It didn't take Diana that long anon 10:17. I also think you are blurring the lines between Meghan having an adjustment to life in the BRF, being unable to adjust to that life & being unwilling to adjust. Every single person who joins that family will have to adjust no matter how closely they were raised to that world. Meghan might be unwilling as several of Harry's other girlfriends have been. But what several commenters have suggested is that Meghan lacks the ability to adjust or find a role in the BRF. Those are the comments that have rubbed me the wrong way because quite frankly none of us have any idea if that is true and so it comes off as an unkind judgment.

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    23. All these arguments about why Meghan won't fit in or will have a hard time are absolutely laughable.

      It's 2017 and so many on here sound delusional. Ya'll would make the mean girls blush with embarrassment.

      I can't take credit for this remark, but someone a post back said something like... Meghan will be accepted because she's on Harry's arm.

      Anyone who doesn't accept her or is mean to her will quickly find themselves as outcasts. So that would include a lot on this board.

      BTW, if you want to talk about education, oh I'll go there. Meghan went to Northwestern and graduated. A very academically prestigious school. Harry never went to college. And Kate and Will's college has been compared to Ohio State. (And don't try to compare OSU to Northwestern, they aren't even in the same universe!)

      Have you seen the thank you note that Kate wrote to Wimbledon? Google it. Meghan can academically run circles around Kate. Does that sound mean? Oh, no, I'm just being "realistic".;)

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    24. This is what I'm talking about 10:02, NOBODY said they didn't like Meghan. You are twisting words.

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    25. Apparently, anon is counting replies to comments. Like keeping score. Unfortunately, Anonymous could be one person or five. Kind of hard to tell.

      There is nothing to be gained by comparing Kate and Meghan and much to be lost. If one truly cares or is interested in MM's smooth transition into the BRF, this isn't going to help. We don't even know for sure at this point they will marry and require all this adjustment we have been so strongly discussing.
      If the point is to make this blog look bad-comments generally say more about the commenter than the subject.
      This discussion reminds me at times of late-night talk fests in the dorm. Actually, they were more mature.
      Calling me the blog police ...really? Name -calling-usually used in a faulty argument. Bristowoman graciously apologized; I apologize on a regular basis; Jane apologizes. It is not an unheard of occurrence on this blog. Call me anything you want to. I don't intimidate easily these days.
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    26. I did like Meghan, but reading some of the comments defending her I doubt I will much longer. There is no need to disparage St Andrews, an old and excellent university, with an history American universities will never have, there is no need to show the BRF in a bad light to prove she would be making them a favour by entering it, there is no need to say those who don't gush over her are snobs or delusionals. If those are the arguments for her, I think they miss the mark.

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    27. 1:09,

      Nobody is twisting words. There is no way the negative comments on here are from people that "like" Meghan. Saying she won't fit in, etc. Give me a break.

      That's what people say when they like someone? No. And then to accuse people of misunderstanding what's being said. We see right through the meanness.

      Sorry, you don't get to be mean and not be called out for it.

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    28. Lol. Ok, 3:16.

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    29. You win anon 3:16 We are all mean and despicable persons who-how horrible!-don't like Meghan. thankfully we only are a bunch of mild well disposed royal watchers and our opinion doesn't count. In real life she will of course never experience this awful meanness.The BRF, British aristocracy, people of Britain and those nice, sympathetic British tabloids will absolutely love her. And with Harry by her side, what else does she need? I hope you call them all out if they do not. Anon 7

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    30. Yes, some members of the BRF and the British aristocracy will be unkind towards Meghan just as they have been unkind towards Diana, Kate, and numerous others. The British tabloids will of course publish nasty headlines because it makes them money. But what I can't really wrap my head around is why so many commenters here feel so enthusiastically anti-Meghan, and why they think that because she will face certain prejudice from other people it justifies their own prejudice.

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    31. Wait a minute 6:58! For you to accuse anyone with reservations about Meghan as being prejudiced is unfair. This will be the default reason to blame anyone with critical remarks about Ms. Markle because it is so easy to do, isn't it. No one will dare say anything other than praise for fear of being called racist and prejudiced. That in itself smacks of prejudice on your part! No one brought up race here as a consideration. All the conversation has been about her personality and life experience, and would she want to live with all the constraints that is the reality of being part of the BRF. Shame on you!

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    32. I wasn't talking about race. I was talking about prejudices regarding nationality (she's American), class (she's not an aristocrat and she is an actress), religion (she's not C ofE) and marital status (she's divorced).

      Anon 6:58.

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    33. No, 8:32. Shame on you. Most of the things said about M could also have applied to Kate. Kate's mom literally grew up in public housing. Although their house now is worth millions, the house they had when she married was very middle class, American middle class.

      No one on this board ever said that Kate couldn't be part of the RF, or the Queen might not accept her, or will she even be a real princess????

      That was my favorite - will she even be a real princess? As if the thought was beyond comprehension. (And don't get caught up in the princess title, we know what they meant. Change it for Duchess or whatever.)

      Those are all the comments that have been posted on here. Read the comments. Read what people have said. That's what's going on.

      I don't think it's all race. I think it's also classism. And down right jealousy. M will be a true American princess.

      The mean girls feel a misplaced primal need to attack anything not Kate. And they have Meghan in their sights. It 's really breathtaking the abuse this girl has been shown.

      And then you sit there and try to say it's about HER being comfortable, it's a question of HER wanting to be there. No one believes that.

      She quit her 3 year old blog, gave up her clothing line. Rest assured, she wants to be there. Put your mind at ease, all the concern you people have for her. She's made her decision. And I think so has Harry.

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    34. As an American, none of those prejudices concern me but if you think they don't concern the British upper classes, you are wrong. They are very very nationality and class conscious. Religion and divorce, not so much.

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    35. Well done anon 12:06! She wants to be there and so does Harry! With their ages and distance I think they've been having some very "tough" conversations for a while. Prince Harry has probably been very upfront with her.

      My hope is Kate can become a mentor and friend for her. Autumn said in an interview that early on she had some fashion flops, and then some ladies in the family were kind enough to guide her on what kind of outfits and style you want to have for specific events. That doesn't mean Meghan has to dress like Kate, it just means someone who already knows the "rules@ can spare you some grief.

      ~ A

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    36. 12;06, this blog was not around before the DoE's engagement to Prince William, so I don't have any idea what everyone who participates on this blog thought. One big difference is that Kate was around for a long long time. Everyone kind of knew who she was and most people expected them to get married eventually.

      Another big difference is that Kate is a rule follower and she wants to please. She wants to conform and do what the BRF expects. She did not have a career and she did not build an identity separate from William. Except for a few hiccups, she has adjusted her life to his. This is not a criticism. This is who she is and this is why their relationship works so well imo.

      No one is saying anything is wrong with Ms. Markle. As a matter of fact, alot is right with her. Probably, you are right and they will get married and I hope it works out, However, she may not be willing in 5 or ten years to put up with eveything that will be thrown at her, and there will be alot of nastiness thrown at her. She does not strike me as the type to shove down who she is to fit in.

      Also, if the Queen does not give Harry permission to marry her, she will not be a princess or a duchess. I can not imagine that she would do that but it is in her power to do and she has done it before.

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    37. 1:34: actually yes several commenters have discussed what is wrong with her. Only they call it citing "concerns".

      1:22. I am aware of the prejudices of the British upper class. I said that I do not understand why commenters who are not British upper class feel justified adopting those prejudices as their own merely because the British upper class has them. And while all societies have their particular prejudices (including Americans who may be less reverent about monarchies than other cultures) *however* if the British Royal Family clings too strongly to some of those prejudices they will risk making themselves too anachronistic to maintain their present level of influence and power. Can you imagine the backlash there would be if the Queen actually refused to allow their marriage because Meghan is a divorced American?

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    38. Anon 1:34 ~ in their engagement interview Kate said she had a career and a separate identity - that she knows it and the people in her life know it. It's subjective and you and I can't deny her that. I think it is in Kate's personality, and it seems you agree, to be pretty consistent and connected to her family. We saw her rely on William or her parents, and I think she's happy that way. She didn't have a lot of options, but I believe she is quite content with the freedom she had (uni, living in her parent's London flat, and working at two companies) and now she's happy to be centered around her family, William and the family she created with William. Just because she doesn't look as independent as Meghan doesn't mean she doesn't *feel* independent. Different personalities and needs.

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    39. Anon 1:34 ~ forgot to ask, when was the last time we know of the Queen denying a marriage? Other than the politics of Charles's wedding to Camilla (and maybe she made them wait longer than they wanted, but it wasn't denied), who other than her sister?

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    40. 1:55, I don't think any commentators are making British prejudces their own. They are only bringing them up because they are actual real issues and relevant to this discussion.

      And you are correct. The BRF is way behind the times and always have been. They do need to modernize to stay relevant but change is slow.

      Unfortunately, the only backlash I can imagine would come from the States. Not sure the British are that invested in Meghan at this time.

      And A, hopefully Kate could be her mentor. She would be a huge help to her for sure.

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    41. Im thinking of Margaret A. I don't think she would do that to him but I said that because one person keeps saying she can not.

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    42. Everyone seems to look at things from Meghan's or Kate's, the bride's point of view. What about the people who are going to support her financially and are going to be represented by her? They couldn't vote, could they? All those impediment, that ruled out certain kind of people, Catholics, divorcees etc..the obligation to ask for the queen's permission, all this existed to guarantee the people of Britain that they wouldnot be ruled by someone they didn't accept. And it makes sense. Why should the only criteria be that the heir fell in love?
      So those things, not British, not knowing the ropes, not Cof E divorcee would have meant that a generation ago she wouldn't have been able to marry him or he would lose his rights to succession. If people in Britain feel they don't want her, it is their right. They may be prejudiced, that's their right to. There is prejudice in almost any election. The difference here is that a member of the RF,of the family that represents all British is imposed to them. Why should not it be necessary that the newcomer fits? What's all this about? Just taking the benefits and not the drawbacks?

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    43. The BRF is a figure head but there is an actual government that is actually elected so I don't your argument Anon 4:19. If anything your argument supports the republicans who who argue against taxpayer support of a family that makes unilateral decisions about the particular flavor of British culture that is put forth to the rest of the world as the "real" reflection of British values.

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    44. I think Anon 4:19 was making the point that prejudice is just a fact of life but I could be wrong.

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    45. Anon 12:50, I mentioned education in one of my posts but it was not about the quality of their actual education but about the type of experience in school one had and the students one is surrounded by. I do not see any reason Meghan can not adjust and do well living in the UK to Harry, just as he could do just fine moving to America, marrying Meghan and living in the USA. However the life experiences are different and it does take some adjustment especially in social settings, add onto that some of cultural differences between the UK and US and does take some adjustment, on both sides. The fact that Meghan is older and has experienced at this point a range of people and cultures is huge. But I have to assume anyone marrying into the BRF has some major adjustments to make based on security restrictions alone.
      I know people who married into very wealthy families from middle class upbringings and getting use to live in help, cooks, nanny's, household help etc alone takes time. In casual conversations at parties assumptions that one grew up traveling worldwide on school breaks to go skiing or enjoy a beach vacation, the assumptions about where you shop and how much you spend etc. etc.

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    46. anon 4:41 It is a republican argument. The point of the monarchy is to have a head of State that knows its stuff, and knows it better than anybody else because he/she has been raised from childhood with that objective in mind (contrarily to many embarrassing politicians) . A large part of this transmission of knowledge is done by the RF. If outsiders enter it, it is common sense they should adapt to the RF and the country, not the RF and the country to them. This talk about people having to approve of Meghan because she is Harry's choice or her getting a platform for her causes does not take into account the nature of a monarchy. Once you enter the RF, you are in fact a prisoner of a whole country. If Meghan doesn't understand that or wishes to live as she used to, better not marry or Harry stands down from the line of succession. Yes, 5:13 prejudice is a fact of life and different people have different prejudices. I will shock you, but I do not see anything wrong in some people not liking Meghan. Why should everyone? 4:19

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    47. Considering that it appears Meghan, as reported by many sources, is the one who advised Harry and supported him in disclosing recently the depth of his struggle to come to terms with Diana's death, it appears she will make an outstanding addition to the royal family.

      Harry's admission was heralded by many as a turning point for their mental health campaign and only deepened the public's love for him.

      Meghan seems to have the emotional Intelligence and common sense needed for PR that has been horribly lacking in that family.

      It makes me laugh and shake my head the utter foolish comments on here. Meghan is going to be a hit, just you wait and see.:)

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    48. Perhaps she did anon 1:17 but no one really knows. Just because it's being reported doesn't make it true. Unless it comes directly from the palace or from Prince Harry himself, its unsubstantiated heresay. If you have been reading recent reports, then you must also know that the Queen's private secretary has stated to the press that the HT campaign got too big and needs to be reigned in with "less soul baring". So I don't think they would appreciate her emotional intelligence or common sense whether they need it or not. 6:38 has it right. She will be expected to conform to them not the otherway around.

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    49. That was the palace and Charles being upset and jealous about Harry talking openly about Diana.

      This "soul baring" or what real people call warmth, is what made Diana and now her sons so popular. The people loved Harry's admission.

      William and Harry are the future of the monarchy and that future is easily within sight. No one will be expecting Meghan to conform to anything she doesn't want to.

      So many comments on here are from an era 70 years ago... and really don't reflect reality now. It's a very different world now with a very different King of England in line to takeover.

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    50. 3:18,

      Before lecturing others about confirming sources for reports, please check your own. The Queen's private secretary was never quoted as saying that. It was unnamed sources. So, if you take your own advice, it's heresay but you are trying to pass it off to this board as coming from the Queen's private secretary.

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    51. Anon 6:38 You have pointed out some very relevant facts to the issues of "joining the BRF". I think most on this site get these issues, but you have articulated them really well. When you add in the cultural differences, income differences, etc etc it just adds to the difficulties on all sides to a marriage. Not criticisms but simply acknowledging that the merging of two personalities, two life experiences, two family expectations, in the case of the BRF a countries expectations, and it is all a complicating part of the marriage. Marriage always involves issues, all this other stuff just adds to it and some men and women are able to compromise and meld it all together better than others. That is all this debate is about. IMHO:):) I have not read any snobby or condescending or rude or racist remarks, simply speculations about the ease or hardship for both Harry and Meghan in living a happy married life in the BRF Fishbowl.:)

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    52. I hope Meghan is not what you make her to be, 4:11. A pushy person following her own agenda, sneering at the royal family, with no consideration for others, sure to make a hit and not caring about tradition or service because the queen is going to die soon and the monarchy is old-fashioned.

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    53. That's a pretty extreme reading of 4:11's comment Anon 1:58. I toook her to mean that there might be some more freedom for the younger generations of royals which could give a new bride like Meghan some breathing room, much how Kate was able to have some freedoms to be herself in ways Diana wasn't.

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    54. Meghan would be allowed about the same freedoms as Kate because they would be same generation royals. In turn, Kate and Meghan woud pave the way for the next generation of royal women like Princess Charlotte and Prince George's wife to become a little bit more less tradtional. As long as the Queen and Prince Charles are still alive, things won't change very much.

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    55. "As long as the Queen and Prince Charles are still alive, things won't change very much."

      Oh, honey, they already have.

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    56. That makes no sense anon 5:38. We are talking about the status quo changng for the future.

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    57. I understand exactly what 5:38 meant.

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    58. Oh really? Have things changed since last week?

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  15. I'm so happy for Harry. He seems truly content with life at this point, and I believe Meghan's presence has really helped build that confidence in him. I, too, believe an engagement is imminent and I'm so happy for the both of them!

    I'm bursting with anticipation for Pippa's wedding! George and Charlotte in their glory, a (likely) fabulous gown for Kate AND a dashing Harry & Meghan making their *true* debut? Be still my heart! Fingers and toes are crossed for fabulous photos....

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  16. For those of you that think Meghan's divorce could be an issue with the Queen giving her blessing:
    - does it matter that Meghan was most likely NOT married in the Church of England? My guess is she had a civil wedding in Jamaica.
    - I doubt she is Church of England. Would the expectation be, and would Harry be traditional enough, to ask her to convert for the wedding?
    - if she converted, how long would that take? My guess is they would expedite conversion for the BRF.

    Forgive my ignorance, but I am assuming there may be a conversion process like Catholicism, Judaism, etc.

    ~ A

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  17. To talk about weddings, church and the Middletons...right before Kate's wedding she was dedicated, and she was only christened/baptized as a baby. Word was the Middletons didn't attend church for many, many years.

    I read an article last week that Mike & Carole are now regulars at their Berkshire church, and that they have taken George and Charlotte when they stay with them. We saw Pippa and (fiancé) James at a London church on Sunday.

    The Middletons are excellent supporters and quick learners - do you think they have become regulars at church to support Kate's connection to the church (via William-Charles-Queen & grandparents to the future head of the church)? To set an example?

    I am not questioning whether their faith is genuine. Just wondering if they have chosen to become more active, as to me it appears they have. And wondering other people's thoughts...???

    ~ A

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    1. The Middletons have always attended church, they are just not Church of England. I forget their denomination. Kate joined the Church of England right before the wedding.

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    2. Many people do not attend church regularly until a wedding or christening is in the cards. It's quite possible that the Middleton's did not attend on a *regular* basis, but are more active now because of their grandchildren.

      And there's nothing wrong with either scenario, IMO. :-)

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    3. Anon 4:04 I didn't know the Middletons were part of a different faith or denomination - church did they attend? I believe Kate was baptized as a baby in the Church of England. I just thought they baptized their babies, then were no longer active. Until Kate's wedding and marriage.

      If they were attending a different church, then they have still made a change to switch to the Church of England - and my guess this is to support their daughter.

      ~ A

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    4. Royalfan I know many families do it. I don't think it is wrong. I think it once again is the Middletons demonstrating their commitment to family. Personal faith does not need a church. However, going to church can set an example for their grandchildren, it can show support for the head of the church, etc. We still haven't heard that W&K have started attending church regularly, so maybe they get that consistency and example from going with their Middleton grandparents.

      ~ A

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    5. Hi A,

      I replied earlier and my comment got eaten by the blog gods.:) I believe that Kate's family has been with the same church, in the same parish, for years. Not the Church of England, I'm thinking maybe Methodist? I believe the Middletons still go to that same church and haven't changed. I know when Kate was pregnant with George they went to the Middleton family's church for Christmas. They were longtime parishioners.

      Kate wasn't baptized in the Church of England but joined after her engagement.

      Did you read somewhere the Middletons are now Church of England? I hadn't heard that.

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    6. Sorry, that's my comment above!

      4:04 anon

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    7. Anon 4:04 & 12:53 everything I have read before, and just researched right now, is the Middletons have been Church of England/Anglican. M&C were married at an Anglican Church, they baptized Kate at an Anglican Church, and the church W&K attended with them Dec 25, 2012 is the same Anglican Church Pippa will marry in.

      What sources have you heard that they are a different denomination than CofE/Anglican?

      ~ A

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    8. That is my understanding as well A. I believe the Middletons have always been Church of England. I think the confusion started because Kate had been baptised but not confirmed within the Church. She was confirmed prior to her wedding so that she could marry within the Church.

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    9. I will look for the info I had read. I do see what you are saying about St. Marks being Anglican.

      A big point was made when they got married about the Middletons not being from the C of E, which surprised me at the time. I will see if I can find it! But obviously it could be wrong!:)

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    10. They got married at St. James Church in Dorney..Evangelist...

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    11. Anon 1:49 can you provide a link to your source? I'm not trying to be difficult but every site I read refers to the Dorsey church as Anglican and the Queen being the head. I think in U.K. Anglican churches roll up under Church of England. Whereas in Canada Anglican churches do not.

      Also, Kate would not be part of the Church of England until she chose to confirm. That is probably why she is believed to not have been CofE prior, not because she never attended a church service, but because she wasn't confirmed.

      Regardless, from what I've seen, and no one here refuting me with evidence, the Middletons seemed to adopt becoming a part of a church community AFTER Kate's wedding. My current stance is they have been CofE, but were not active.

      ~ A

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    12. Is it St. James the Less church? That one is definitely Anglican.

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    13. Faith everything I'm reading says St James Parish Church aka St James the Less. I think it's simply that they've always been "Anglican" but not frequent and devout enough for their children to confirm at younger ages. And that's ok. Like I've said, faith for me isn't tied to a church. I'm more curious about their behaviour and some of the "why's". Hence my speculation and curiosity over the article that mentioned M&K being regulars now at their Berkshire church where Pippa will marry.
      ~ A

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    14. Yes, I'm looking at the same church, A. Completely agree.

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    15. Sorry, I made a mistake, it is Anglican.....not Evangelist...

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    16. I thought they might all be attending that church to get their two children well adjusted to it prior to being in their Aunt Pippa's wedding.

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  18. Anon 1:49 You mean the Middleton's got married in a non Anglican church? Maybe they switched churches after they were married or maybe one them was Anglican at the time of their marriage and one wasn't and they chose to get married in St James for who knows what reason. Thank you for the information. That may be were the confusion stems from in the press. I thought I remembered that Kate was baptized in the Anglican church but had not gone through her confirmation, but did so before her marriage. I have researched so it maybe that she was not baptized in the Church of England either.

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    2. Among the Anglicanism, there are, the High Church of England, and Low Church.....because of that my slip-up..sorry..

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  19. Love this! I am so on board with this entire proposition. An independent, stylish, liberal American woman of color in the BRF? Sign me up.

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    1. If they get married it will be interesting to watch how it all unfolds. It is an unprecedented situation.

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    2. Many are excited, 3:27! Meghan will be a great addition and partner for Harry.

      Unprecedented, huh 4:52? But in a good way right? That's what you meant? Of course it is!;)

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  20. I know my comment is not going to be popular with Jane and quite a few of those who visit this blog, but I do not care; I have to write what I think is right. Jane, if you want to feature Meghan Markle, why don’t you do a blog just about her? I know all your blah, blah, blah about Meghan being on Kate’s sphere, etc., but to me that is NOT valid! When and if Meghan officially becomes Harry’s fiancée and later wife, then she’ll be in Kate’s sphere. Meghan Markle does NOT belong in “From Berkshire to Buckingham!” “From Berkshire to Buckingham” is the domain of Kate, her family and those around them. If Meghan is with Kate in some fashion (personal or public), then it is fine to have her in this blog. But, Meghan should not be featured in this blog if Kate is not present. I do not hate or dislike Meghan Markle. I simply think that some people are too quick to elevate her to where she does not yet belong. But, of course, this is your blog so you can do whatever you want with it. It is obvious that as far as you are concerned, if you please the majority of your followers, you do not care at all if you displease some of us.

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    1. I can see some of your points 8:39 although maybe not the way you worded them. I also believe that there has been too much assumption that Meghan is already a "done deal" in the royal family. I prefer to wait until the announcement is made although there are those who insist that, if you're not on the "Meghan is already a member of the family" train then you're a racist. This is, of course, nonsense. I feel the same way about speculation on Kate's pregnancies when her body parts are being analyzed which is beyond rude. If there's an announcement to be made they will do it.

      Where I take exception is with your criticism of Jane and that she doesn't care about her followers. This is an unfair assessment since this is her blog and she didn't ask any of us personally to follow her. We found the blog, liked it, and read it as I'm guessing you did also. As you said, she can write about what she wants since it is her blog and she isn't beholden to any of us. I will admit that I got tired of the "Harry Hugged Meghan" headline and thought "OK, I don't care anymore" but it's not a fair judgement against Jane because she has prioritized law school over blog writing so the last article she wrote was that one. She really doesn't have to write anything at all.

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    2. Robin's response is well-put. My feelings are 1. It is Jane's blog and she can write about whatever and whomever she wants 2. It's unlikely **everyone** will be pleased with everything written, no matter what. Displeasing some is not the same thing as not caring about an audience. 3. It is usually pretty clear from the entry's title what the subject will be and those who aren't interested in the subject don't HAVE to read that entry. We are hardly a captive audience forced to view every article a la Clockwork Orange!

      I suspect had the blog been around during all of Harry's previous romances those women would have been written about too. After all, many wrote about Kate years prior to the engagement announcement, an announcement no one could know years prior was ever coming. And finally, Jane's articles about Meghan didn't seem to take the place of an article about a  Kate event. Kate wasn't seen in public between May 3 and May 11. To me it's not reasonable to demand "blog silence" or to publish only "Kate look-backs" during Kate's absences from public life merely because this is primarily a Kate blog. Even prior to Pippa's engagement there were articles about her that did not directly involve Kate. Pippa is very much in "Kate's sphere" and she is from Berkshire, but neither her upcoming marriage nor her previous romances that were written about (including her pre-engagement romance with JM) lead her to "Buckingham." Should she be off-limits too unless Kate is directly involved? What about James Middleton? He has been written about too. If Kate's siblings' romances are OK, why wouldn't her brother-in-law's be? Isn't Harry part of "Kate's family"?Maybe people objected to articles about Kate's sibs' romances too but I don't recall anyone writing to say so. So objections about covering Meghan seem more related to Meghan herself rather than to some abstract principle. 

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    3. Robin I haven't seen a single comment on this blog that claimed anyone who thinks Meghan and Harry aren't already engaged must be a racist. If I'm wrong I'm more than happy to be shown what comment(s) you are referring to.

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    4. Robin is correct although I think the word prejudiced was used instead of racist. Also the word mean was used as well as mean girls and haters. Probably some others but I don't feel like reading every reply in this post.

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    5. Certain prejudices were discussed - class, religious, nationality - but race wasn't and there's a BIG difference.

      Anon 12:09.

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    6. Those are the exact words I was thinking about, 4:33. Prejudiced, mean girls, haters, "you have other issues" - they are all implying the same thing. They are especially relevant when they have been either proceeded or preceded by the words "a woman of color" while describing Meghan. It's an all too easily tossed around accusation these days. It is my opinion that anyone who feels they must always point out whether or not someone is a "person of color" just might be the one with the issues.

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    7. Except "woman of color" hasn't been used here Robin so you are bringing that here from somewhere else.

      Anon 12:09.

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    8. I used the term in reference to the difficulty in finding good acting roles." 'Woman of color" is a term used by a number of women who proudly claim membership in the group. I think Meghan used the term. It is not a slur.
      I actually acknowledged this to Robin in a comment that apparently was deleted.

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    9. So not in reference at all to the discussion of her fitting into the BRF then. So Robin is picking a phrase from one comment and pretending it was being used by someone arguing that anyone who doesn't "love" Meghan is racist. Nice try.

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    10. Yes it was related to her adjustment into the royal family. It was in reference to her job as an actress, one of the concerns. No one made that other argument, actually. There was an attempt to make a discussion sound like it. I think your tone is a little confrontational and I am sorry this blog allows it.anon10:11

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    11. It's been interesting to watch other commenters show their true colors so plainly. And no I am not referring to attitudes about race so don't twist my comment. I am referring to self-righteous attitudes and assumptions that certain commenters "know" exactly what the BRF actually thinks and how they will act even though there are plenty of examples to suggest reality might be a bit more gray.

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  21. Robin is not correct. What Robin said was that if you don't support them marrying, then you are accused of being racist. Robin is lumping everyone who doesn't like Meghan and saying that, as a group, they are being called racist/prejudiced. There are people in that group that don't "like" her that have been rightly accused of that, but not the whole group.

    Robin's comment really defends some outrageous things that have been said.

    Additionally, some have commented, and I will cut/paste them here if you want me to, defending the prejudices against Meghan.

    It has been sad and mean.

    Now some want to shutdown any talk of her. She's not in Kate's sphere? She's going to Pippa's wedding! Give me a break. Pretty sure she's here to stay, ladies.

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    1. There we go! Forgot sad. That was one of the words. Delusional too if I remember correctly. I think we've been through this ad nauseum 5:55. Just because some people don't think the BRF will be a good fit for Meghan doesn't mean they don't like her. Also, as one person did comment- not everybody has to like her. People have ther own ideas of what a princess should be and she may not be everyone's cup of tea. That does not make them prejudiced, mean, a hater, sad or delusional. Great you think she is the next best thing but that does not give you the right to attack those who don't.

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    2. By definition having a list of "what a princess should be" includes prejudices against "what a princess shouldn't be"

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    3. 8:22,

      Better prepare yourself to be disappointed if MM isn't your version of a princess because she sure seems to be Harry's!

      And the person you quote re: the everybody doesn't have to like her... Well, that commenter also said the British people won't want Meghan as a princess because of prejudices which they went on to defend. They even discussed the Brits voting to keep her out. As if.

      There's two groups of people. Those that just don't like Meghan, fine, their right.

      And then those that literally do not want her to be a member of the RF. They want Harry to step aside or be forced to step aside if he marries her. Those people are prejudiced, mean, etc. Yes, they are.

      If you can't see the difference.... Or to say that all these people saying all these horrible things "like" Meghan. Please. Everyone knows what's going on. Some are just mad that they are being called out on it.

      And it's interesting that this whole subject was brought up originally - the issue of prejudices -because commenters against Meghan said that it is the real world and prejudice exists all over, etc. Fine. But when that same logic is turned around on them, are they prejudiced for bringing up the prejudices as a way to keep Meghan out of the RF? Those same people that started the "prejudices are reality" talk get angry.

      Yep. Prejudices exist everywhere. Even on royal blogs.



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    4. Anon 8:22. Thank you!!!! You said it so well. I am one of those who think everyone is entitled to its opinion. I mean, for some, divorce implies lack of commitment, frivolity or laziness in making the relationship work. For others it is simply bad luck. That factor alone changes the perception of Meghan's personality. Acting is another. Some believe it is a profession as respectable as another and the fact she was a success in it proves her capacity and hard work. Others think it is a showy and self promoting life. I could go on, for instance, with the fact that her family doesn't seem to get on. There is also the perception of the BRF. Does it need change? Is the queen an anachronism? Should the RF be traditional and different or modern and relatable? She is a foreigner and an American. How do the British feel towards that in the brexit aftermath? I quite understand Americans being elated by Meghan, but it is absurd to force everyone to feel the same. Actually, it is none of my business, I am neither British nor American. I do not feel identified at all with her, nothing could be more remote to me than a TV actress wearing 1000$ dresses.I certainly feel no need to attack or protect her, and I am sure she doesn't care for my opinion. The only thing I can chime in, as an historian and an European living in a monarchy is about the role of a RF in general and its relation with the population. I feel there is little understanding of those realities in the present discussion over Meghan.

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    5. Well anon 9:36 just called all non fans of Meghan rascist in no uncertan terms. Is that allowed Jane? Is it only not allowed when directed toward Meghan?

      I think you are confusing blogs anon. I've been following this thread and nothing that you are stating has been discussed here. I am not the commenter that you are referring to but I think you better go back and reread that comment because she/ he did not say anything about Brits voting Meghan out. She/ he said that it is a reality that some Brits will not accept Meghan because she is an American, an actress and divorced. The person was saying that those feelings are a reality and they are. You have to realize that cultural differences and expectations will shape whether or not Meghan will be accepted with open arms or not. Its not a black and whte issue. Lots of gray areas here.

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    6. I thought I was following all the threads pretty well, but I think I have lost the direction a little. Let's call a truce on this discussion. It has gotten pretty heated and personal here and in other parts of the blog and I would like to move on. Let's start fresh the next time the blog covers her and see where we go from there.

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  22. Robin is correct. Many of the comments suggested, rather strongly, that there must be "more to it" when Meghan's fit (with the BRF) was discussed. I am not aware of a single lady marrying into the RF who was exempt from this discussion. I recall pros and cons being discussed with respect to Diana, Sarah, Sophie, Kate, Chelsy, etc. Should MM be exempt because she is bi-racial? And aren't you making some major assumptions by NOT considering the personal circumstances of the person behind the comment?

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    1. Would love to see an actual comment implying that anyone questioning Meghan's place in the BRF on this blog was equating it with racism. So far the only mention of race I've see has come from Prince Harry's own statement and a handful of commenters here who are now trying to twist the words of commenters who disagree with them.

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    2. Wow, RoyalFan, that's a low blow. Hmmm.....

      Are we asking for special treatment for Meghan? No, Ms. Markle deserves EQUAL treatment. None of the ladies you mentioned, nor have any of Harry's ex-girlfriends, been accused of being so unfit to be a princess that their partner should be forced to step aside if he wants to marry her. Only Meghan has been slandered in this way.

      And based on what? On what grounds should Harry have to step aside? Because that's what some demented comments have demanded, Harry step aside if he wants Meghan.

      Meghan brings nothing to the RF that hasn't already been accepted. Divorced? Charles and Camilla. Not British? The Duke was naturalized before marrying the Queen. And she can join the church before the wedding like Kate.

      My respect for so many on this board is rubbish now. Meghan and Harry do not deserve to be treated like this. Bless them both.

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    3. How about anon 9:36's statement. "Everyone knows what's gong on. Some are just mad they are being called out on it." Plus that person accuses posters of being prejudiced several times.

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  23. Hi All, I did not take any of the comments that expressed less than excitement about Meghan to include an implied racist element. I don't want any debates on race here. If someone suggests that Meghan race is a problem/could be a problem, etc, they won't be published.

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  24. There is a difference between acknowledging something exists and approving or wanting it. If that concept isn't understood, then it is impossible to come to an agreement in this discussion.

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    1. Exactly! That seems to be an issue here.

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  25. You deleted my comment. I did not in any way approve racism or accuse anyone here of racism. I did suggest that the was an undercurrent in some comments and I used
    a quote from one of the comments..."a whiff of something unpleasant,," to illustrate this. I think some of the last few comments indicate I was correct. It was an unspoken but hinted at theme of some of the comments. The word wasn't used. That may have been why you missed it in scanning the comments. The implications were not in the comments of those expressing concern but in comments of those objecting to those concerns. None of the concerns mentioned racism or even hinted at it.

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    1. I did not approve the comment because it had a detailed analysis of activity on other royal blogs.

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  26. Ah1 Thank-you for the explanation. I did discuss different techniques for controlling comments on a blog. Perhaps the blogs were identifiable from my descriptions. I can understand why that would be awkward for you.

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