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Poland/Germany Look-Back: Arrival in Warsaw

Saturday, October 28, 2017

It is time to circle back and review the tour of Poland and Germany that I followed, but was not able to blog about. We'll review one ensemble per post and I suspect they will spread out across the fall. Let's jump in with the first ensemble.


The What & The Why


This was the first day of the Cambridge family's visit to Poland and Germany in late summer of this year. It isn't explicitly headlined this way, but
the British Royal Family's star couple has been deployed on a number of "charm offensives" to European nations in the wake of the UK's vote to leave the European Union. Essentially, they are on a series of good-will tours assuring their neighbors on the continent that the UK will still be a friend, despite the ongoing divorce...or should I say conscious uncoupling?




The Where
The Cambridges landed at Chopin Airport in Warsaw and were greeted by a welcoming committee. From there the kids were deposited at Belvedere Palace while William and Kate headed to a date with the President and his wife at the Presidential Palace. The afternoon included a visit to the Warsaw Rising Museum and a start-up "incubator." 




The Labels

Although Kate has broken ranks a few times, she almost always kicks off a tour with Alexander McQueen, and for this trip she returned to her flag-ship label by choosing this creamy white peplum suit-dress. The Duchess carried her ruby-red Casa clutch from Jenny Packham and wore her favorite Gianvito Rossi Praline pumps. Most exciting for royal watchers was the debut of a jewelry set we hadn't seen before. I don't think these have yet been IDed, although speculation at the time was that the pieces might be G. Collins & Sons, because they are similar in design to Kate's tanzanite pieces.



Kate wore earrings, a matching necklace, and a matching ring (close-up above). We've discussed before how Kate used to wear statement rings while a single girl, but very rarely does so now she is a duchess. Seeing this ring was certainly a highlight of the ensemble for me.


Fashion in Motion




Jane's Thoughts 
This was a simple ensemble. I know it elicited lots of comparisons to other McQueen and Packham ensembles that Kate has worn. I started to pull together all the peplum pieces Kate has worn and quickly gave up--they would have swamped the post! Although the fabric and color are different, Kate began her tour of India and Bhutan in a peplum suit-dress, too, and oddly, that is the dress that came to my mind first when I saw this. The India/Bhutan dress was so busy, and this is so simple, but the structure is very close. I agree with everyone who compared this to her pink McQueen, too. That was such a super-star look.

I maintain there is a subtle difference between visits to commonwealth countries and these visits to neighbors. This ensemble seemed to underscore that theory. Ultimately this was a pretty professional and relatively subdued look for Kate to start a tour, but that seems like the appropriate vibe. 



The Verdict 
It was a win. She hit all the right notes. This ensemble gave a nod to the host country by flying Poland's national colors, and Kate also found the right balance between professional and princess-pizazz. This look did need a little extra sparkle and she accomplished that by adding new and exciting jewelry. I wish she'd worn different shoes, but red might have upset the balance. I'll let you decide that one! :)





81 comments:

  1. What a well-coordinated family! I appreciate and enjoy seeing Kate's take on an event/destination and how she incorporates that into her or her family's fashion. I've seen some comments that it's cheesy or contrived, but I disagree. Fashion is a form of speech and a platform - otherwise logos and sayings wouldn't be so popular on our clothing.

    LOVED the rubies! If they are G. Collins & Sons I wonder if they were a gift from William to celebrate the birth of George (his birth stone). We always seem to speculate a million different ways as to who gifts Kate what, or how much of her Kikis she has self-purchased, but I'll let my mind go here :-) It seems this jeweler has been trusted by the BRF for a while. I know she must have many more stunning pieces we have never seen (including wedding gifts from foreign dignitaries), so hopefully as her role elevates in the next few years she will have reason to stun us with more previously unseen jewels!

    ~ A

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  2. So happy you are doing a review of this tour - couple of dresses I am dying to hear your thoughts on! Love this ensemble- was a good start. Linda

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  3. Have loved your blog for years, Jane! Gotta say though, I miss the old format where you wrote in article format instead of this choppy, broken-into-sections format. I have to admit it's not as engaging as the thorough writing you used to do. I know it's probably just time constraints but in case it's not, I thought I'd ask if it's possible to see more of your old style?:)

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    1. This made me chuckle a little, because when I published the post this morning I looked it over and thought, "I don't love this visually...but it's only temporary." I did change it to try and make creating the posts faster, but there were a few other aims, too. I'm not sure it has measurably changed the timing, though, or accomplished the secondary goal. The writing comes pretty easy to me, it is choosing photos and formatting that can add up. I think I am still exploring and seeing what I can change to make blogging more time efficient for me, without changing what you all enjoy on that end. I felt this kept my writing style intact, so I am perturbed that you feel it hasn't, and that will weigh on my mind...and likely prompt change of some kind. :)

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    2. Hi there - must say that I echo the sentiment. I preferred your previous style to the current one (which feels more choppy). It also feels less connected to the blogger.

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    3. I don't hate the new format. It makes skimming for information easy when I have little time which is often unfortunately.

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    4. I'm happy that you're still blogging even with your exceedingly busy schedule. Better to hear from you, Jane, than to focus on one style vs. another for now. Keep doing what you're doing because you still have the best photos and style input.

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    5. I love this format & way you write this way!! I find it very organized & so easy to follow along. In posts you have made like this, you still interject humor & flow. I guess you can't please everyone😃. Thanks for your writing! It's so nice to have something pleasant to read when the regular news is such a downer.

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    6. I think the other style was like chatting with a friend, more like a warm get together about Kate. This is the facts leading up to a crescendo with "the verdict". I don't hate the new style but prefer the old.

      Either way, I enjoy your blog. 👑❤️

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    7. I'm with Robin and others. I don't think it's bad to like one way or the other more but I eagerly await any post you share so whatever makes it more likely that we get to hear from you is my favorite post style. Thanks for doing what you do and providing us a community to gather and enjoy one another and enjoy Kate watching.

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    8. I am grateful for and enjoy both formats, but I do agree that this one makes it easier to skim through when you're doing a quick Kate-check. ;-)

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    9. Orange County GrandmaOctober 29, 2017 at 4:15 PM

      I am just happy you still have the time to blog. Any way you write is a blessing to us all. Keep doing it whatever is earlier for you. Love the blog.

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    10. Just love hearing from Jane!!

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  4. Oh wow I think a dark red shoe would have been perfect. I really like the suit and she's definitely heading in the right direction with the jewelry (I'm not a fan of some of her choices i.e. the tassel earrings). That ring is to die for. -J

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    1. I think I agree about the red shoes. I'm not a fan of the Praline pumps as they appear to be an exact match of her skin color and make it look like she is shoeless.

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    2. @Faith - SO GLAD I am not alone on this! Not sure if it’s an exact match to her skin tone, or if she is wearing hosiery, but she absolutely looks like she’s not wearing shoes whenever she wears these...which is often. I’m all about a neutral/nude shoe, but these are not my favorites.

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    3. I agree on the shoes. Red shoes would have been much better.

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    4. Anon 12:20, yes, I think she has stockings on too, so an exact match to those not her legs per se. The texture of the Pralines may not be helping either, making them blend in more with her leg tone. A different material might have provided a slight degree of contrast needed to erase the optical illusion.

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    5. Does anyone recall this dress?

      https://i.pinimg.com/736x/02/bd/c9/02bdc9e34512bb148284a192241c5341--delhi-india-new-delhi.jpg

      Talk about a candidate for red or even navy shoes (with matching belt and bag)! I'm seeing patent with a retro-ish feel to it.

      On THIS occasion, however, if you look at the arrival photo where Kate is holding Charlotte (with red shoes!), I think it may have looked a bit overdone if Kate had worn red shoes.

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    6. Oh, the Wickstead with the dreaded and ill-placed pocket flaps. That one cried out for help in so many ways. It may have been saved with the shoes you suggest royalfan!

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    7. Oh my that dress was so horrible in so many ways - from the pockets to the wind incident. I hope she got home and burned it!

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    8. Robin :-))

      7:00, LOL. It isn't my favorite, but in my mind it's a canvas in dire need of color. As I stated before, add red or navy patent pumps and bag, with a matching 3" wide belt and it *could* be a cheerful vintage look ideal for an engagement focusing on young children.

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    9. A pair of white pumps would have worked well too.

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    1. To me it looks like a vintage piece. Not part of the earring and necklace set.

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    2. I **love** that ring because it looks vintage. I do agree that it's not a great match to the earrings and necklace but sometimes too matchy isn't a good thing.

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    3. Agreed, Ari. I hate the necklace too. They look like she got them out of a gum ball machine.

      I usually have a 50/50 split on whether I like Kate's jewelry or not. It seems to me that she has a really hard time picking out good pieces.

      I thought the Middletons' choice in having pieces made for the wedding day based on their new family crest was so sweet. From that, I expected interesting and memorable things from Kate's jewelry choices. I have yet to be as touched and awed like I was on her wedding day.

      Although the pieces they had made were understated, I thought they were done so well. It just seems that Kate's jewelry choices haven't matured with her age. Although they are expensive now, they look like something a 20something would wear who had a limited budget but was trying to make an impression. Something just seems off with them.

      I do not think these look vintage at all.

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    4. I like the ring for those reasons too, Robin. It goes but doesn't match the set which is nice. I wonder if it is an antique.

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    5. I think the ring is pretty but it kind of looks inexpensive to me although I'm sure it wasn't. I agree it doesn't match the other jewelry very well. I can't see the necklace and earrings very well but they look like they are set in a silvery metal like platinum. The ring's setting (prongs) look to be yellow gold while the band appears to be a silvery/platinum color as is Kate's usual stainless Cartier watch. I may be wrong about the platinum--maybe the earring and necklace diamonds are giving more of a silvery feel. I'm not against mixing metals sometimes and I generally like jewelry that isn't matchy-matchy. It gives more of an "acquired over time" look that I like. Matched sets tend to convey a "brand new, just bought!" vibe that CAN be sort of tacky to me. While it's not true for jewelry belonging to the official "royal" collection, for many of us when jewelry is passed down, existing sets may be divided for sentimental reasons. But I don't really like the mismatched look here. I'm not sure why. I THINK it is because the jewelry is carrying ALL the bling for this fairly restrained arrival look. As others have said red shoes, a different hair style or maybe even a hat and all the "bling weight" wouldn't fall on the mismatched jewelry. I think that would be better. I'm not a fan of the "barefoot on tiptoes" look either--reminds me of Barbie's feet without shoes. I do think the suit peblum hits her body at a more attractive place than some of her peblums. But I'm kind of over peblums at this point!

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    6. It looks as if the ruby ring has diamonds in the band which makes it look "silvery" according to lizzie. So the band may be gold but inset with diamonds.

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    7. Definitely a vintage ring, Robin. And I agree with Lizzie...I see gold prongs with a white gold/platinum ring (with diamonds?).

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    8. The ring definitely looks as if the band has pavé diamonds which would make it look like platinum or white gold. I think what's throwing people off on the set is that the main ruby in the ring has fewer and softer cuts while the earrings and necklace have more facets more sharply cut - possibly laser cut. The deep color of the necklace and earrings add to the value of the rubies but the inclusions in the ring make it equally as valuable because it's impossible to have a ruby that large without inclusions indicating it is 100% genuine.

      I am surprised the ring has gold prongs because gold is a softer metal and not used for prongs very often even though these are double prongs. Although British gold at 9kt is more sturdy than American 14kt gold and definitely more sturdy than European 18kt and 24kt gold. As for mixing the metals - which I love (my rings are a combination of 18kt gold and platinum) - we also need to remember that Kate's wedding band is gold and her engagement ring is white gold. She wears mixed metals every day.

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    9. Yes! Robin, I think you're exactly right on the contrast between the earrings and necklace with the style of the ring.

      By the way, I found a Harry Winston ruby engagement ring that has the same two tone combination...

      https://i.pinimg.com/736x/a9/59/55/a9595591bcdbcbe67ac86e224693709d--ruby-engagement-rings-harry-winston.jpg

      But the more I look at these two tone and ruby combinations, I think it may create a "fussy" look that distracts from the gem.

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    10. Robin is probably right. But after I looked at the link royalfan posted I did some googling. Apparently gold prongs with "silver"-colored bands are in style. (See below for examples with red spinels--some were also available at Sam's Club and Costco for 70-80K) Who knew? Not me, for sure.

      I don't usually mind mixing metals but think royalfan is right--two different metals in one ring can detract from the stone. And I think mixing metals can look a bit contemporary so I'm just not sure the ring goes with the very traditional necklace and earrings. Although maybe the ring stone color is what I don't like. 

      https://www.escobardiamonds.com/platinum-18k-rose-gold-3-34ct-vivid-cushion-spinel-pave-diamond-handmade-ring.html

      https://www.hkjewellery.co.uk/ring-2294-oval-shaped-bright-red-spinel-diamond-and-mixed-metal-engagement-ring

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    11. Oh my...I enjoyed browsing the websites, Lizzie. :-)

      I have no objection to mixing metals but I'm not sure it's the ideal look for a gem since each color tends to look better in either a white or yellow setting. Combined, not so much.

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    12. I saw some nice stuff too royalfan :)

      I think in general warmer color stones of any value (most reds, pinks, & some purples) look better with yellow or rose gold while cool colors (blues, some purples) look better with silvery-colored metals like white gold. There are exceptions of course. While turquoise is usually set in silver, turquoise and yellow gold can look beautiful together.  But when metals are mixed in a piece with one central stone it can look jarring if it conveys warm and cool tones at the same time. The same thing CAN happen when pieces of jewelry are mixed I think.

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    13. Nice links to some gorgeous jewelry! I love the mixed metals and have come to the conclusion that I like the ring better than the earrings and necklace. I wouldn't sneeze at any of them but I do hope the ring gets an outing of its own so it can shine.

      I agree, lizzie, that some stones just cry out for one metal or another. Blue sapphires and purple amethysts cry out for white gold or platinum. I also like to see aquamarine and opals in the "silver" tones. Rubies and emeralds can go either way depending on the depth of the color. Anything in the yellow/orange/coral color range always need gold. Those are just my preferences, of course.

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    14. Lizzie, I agree that mixed metals combined with a central stone can look jarring. IMO, two tone on it's own is fine, but add a stone (color) and three's a crowd. ;-)

      Robin, I agree with your preferences!

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  6. This is a subdued, plain look for a tour arrival ensemble which usually has a lot of visual appeal. Imo, when the outfit is this neutral, a " more special" hair style is required to dress it up a bit. I think this suit dress lacks the pizazz of the pink pepulm McQueen but it is pretty and looks nice on the duchess. Usually, I dislike matchy accessories but a ruby red shoe may have given this the pop it needs.

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  7. Jane, do we know if this McQueen is one or two pieces?

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    1. Well, I am 90% certain it is a two-piece. It is based off of a jacket that Kate had modified, and because there is no zipper in the back, I think it is probably still separate. I think of it as a whole and call it a suit suit-dress. Thinking of similar "suit-dresses," we have never seen either half without the other.

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    2. The praline pumps elongate her leg and keep the look simply--a red shoe would have had the focus on her feet rather than her face. In my humble opinion.

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    3. Thanks Jane! Makes sense.

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    4. I agree that nude shoes elongate her legs, anon 3:04. In general, I like them. It's just the shade of this pair that gives her the shoeless look that bugs me.

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    5. I agree 3:04 but I think they would have been even more successful if they weren't suede. I love a suede shoe as much as Kate does but sometimes it can look a bit "heavy" for a summer ensemble. I'm not sure what her aversion to patent leather is but I think a patent leather nude shoe could have really worked with this ensemble.

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  8. I really Liked this outfit and the jewellery finished it off nicely.
    I Loved this tour--made perfect to see George and Charlotte.
    Catherine is out visiting Wimbledon on Tuesday, so she is possibly rather better.

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  9. I have been mulling over comments I've seen here lately about what Kate's personality is really like. Has anyone read a good biography that they feel helped shed some light on what her personality is really like? She seems so amiable, warm and even tempered. I would love to know more (wouldn't we all? ;) Any biography recommendations as far as Kate and Carole go? They are admirable women.

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  10. imho ...I think she is already pregnant here. She has a lovely plump glowing look to her face.

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  11. Do we know for sure these are rubies? I don't think they look like rubies. And the necklace and earring stones are huge. Kate loves to wear stones that mimic very expensive jewelry but aren't. I thought forever her "diamond" Kiki studs were diamonds, but no. Still love them, but now I question a lot of her jewelry and what the stones really are.

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    1. No, they are UFOs. Everything about them is speculation. Most of Kate's jewelry is identified, though, so we do really have a good sense of the pieces she chooses that are more or less expensive. We have seen a trend toward very pricey jewelry in the past few years. I don't know if these are rubies, but my guess is this is a very expensive set. That's based on her collection (which is confirmed) from the past few years.

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  12. Maggie - MinneapolisOctober 28, 2017 at 9:37 PM

    Is it just me or does it seem like Kate maybe planned this tour's wardrobe for possibly being in the very early stages of pregnancy and/or at least knowing she was planning on putting on weight around that time to possibly help conceive? Just....more peplums than usual....and more loose clothing...that yellow Jenny Packham at the end was really what made me feel like I perhaps wasn't imagining things at the time. Some of the clothing just felt looser or a size bigger than usual. AM I just imagining things though? :P
    I would also like to note that I don't want to seem like I am, in any way, putting down her weight gain. I liked seeing Kate with just a slightly fuller face, etc., that I feel like started after she came back to work starting with visiting the hospital to see the victims after her month off post-Pippa wedding. I think it was absolutely a good thing.

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  13. Catherine looked beautiful as always, loved the Rubies she wore--a nice change. The nude pumps are ok, but she's worn red pumps (and a red hat!) with a white dress before and that didn't look so bad. I haven't worn white pumps since the 80's, but I wonder...

    Belle

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  14. Catherine looks great here, but I can't wait until you get to the edgy white dress! Loved that.

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    1. Me too!!! Waiting for Jane's take on that am AND the green evening dress - that is half the fun of a new ensemble

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  15. I am sorry, but I find this outfit quite boring. She has worn this peplum style so often, could she at least bring it to life with an edgy pair of shoes? She needs to broaden out, try new designers, spread the wealth around. It is very interesting that she has not worn anything of Victoria Beckham, aside from one purse. She is a lovely girl, but not too much fun to follow fashion-wise... Hoping to see more fashion forward outfits from MM.

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    1. Agreed! I find her style boring! The Queen of Spain dresses really well. She really knows how to pull off formal pants. Kate's loose skirts are so dull. She dresses like a fifty year old. Her mom looks great in those kind of outfits though

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  16. The necklace has a pink color to it, I don't think they are rubies.

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    1. Rubies can be pink all the way to a deep blood red with every color in between. It's a misconception that rubies are always the deep red color.

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    2. It's my understanding the redder the ruby, the more valuable. I think if Kate was going to wear rubies, they would be red. The stones in the necklace and earrings are absolutely huge, especially for this type of engagement. I think there's a very good chance these are not rubies, at least the necklace and earrings.

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  17. From the images I can not determine at all the stones in the ring, necklace and earrings. My first instinct was, necklace and earrings a pink stone not a ruby, the ring, no idea...the cut from the one photo does not look like the quality of a typical high quality ruby single stone ring. But occasionally very large valuable colored stones are presented that way. But I still think the ring is "who knows what" and the earrings some type of a minor pink red stone with maybe small diamonds or white topaz stones around. The set does not look terribly "great' to me. But again it might be.... so hard to tell from photos.

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  18. Regarding Kate's ensemble for her LTC event today - I get that it's a sport-themed event and that she is pregnant, but there is something a bit odd looking about people in suits curtsying to a woman wearing track pants.

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    1. Well, the Queen would show up wearing white gloves to greet athletes which is perfectly fine for her, but in 2017 I think people want a dose of relatable on occasions such as this.

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    2. Relatable sure but the BRF can't show up in sweatpants. I said I understand why she is dressed that way but to a casual observer who sees a still photograph it looks odd. Monarchs wear crowns for a reason.

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    3. Well, I beg to differ. I don't think it looks odd in 2017 to show up for an engagement like this in athletic wear. W&H have a more modern approach to royal duties and she's following their lead.

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    4. Let me first say I don't have a problem with the way Kate dressed for this event although I have disliked other casual outfits she has worn. But the issue of "relatedness" is tricky. If royals act like everyone else in a quest to be relatable what makes them royals? Why do they get huge taxpayer-paid benefits if they are just like everyone else? Hasn't the idea that the hand of God conveys royal titles and rights been largely discarded in the UK? I agreed with the original poster that curtsying to someone who is wearing sweatpants did look odd even though I thought Kate's outfit was ok (and I thought that poster did too.) But remember when W&K visited NYC? Instructions to the reporters (AND their camera folks who lug tons of gear) laid out a strict dress code that is in operation in the UK and on foreign soil---no athletic shoes, no jeans, no sweatpants. Men should wear jackets AND ties, women a trouser or skirt suit. They were told they would be turned away from covering W&K otherwise. There IS some irony (& perhaps something worse) in "requiring" other people doing their jobs to be more dressed up than you are when you do yours! The Queen's white glove approach to her own attire may reasonably expect professional attire from reporters but I'm not sure the trio's "relatable" dressed-down approach should.

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    5. Royal fan, in the lower Kate had also shown up to sporting themed events in more formal dress and then changed for the actual activity. For example her visit to the field hockey team leading up to the London Olympics.

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    6. The duties of a Princess (and Queen!) ...

      http://media.gettyimages.com/photos/diana-princess-of-wales-wearing-a-lifejacket-whilst-on-board-the-picture-id52118498

      https://i.pinimg.com/736x/9e/e8/a9/9ee8a92b3f8a147b426940bd558fe16b--prinses-mary-january-.jpg

      http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2017/03/10/17/3E2416A000000578-4302070-image-m-49_1489167085342.jpg

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  19. Anon 6:19---The woman who curtsied was wearing a suit...a Pantsuit-which was obvious when she curtsied. Your comment seemed a little slanted toward a specific conclusion--in my opinion, that Kate was inappropriately attired or dressed more casually than other active participants. If you had accurately said "pantsuit," the meaning would have been different. It struck me odd at first because "suits" made me think men and the idea of them curtseying...amusing.
    If HM were going to play tennis with children, I would hope she would lose the white gloves.

    It was nice to see Ms. Quinn-sans satchel-purse and bouquets and at an appropriate distance, not looming behind Kate and staring straight into the camera. She was carrying notebooks or files. She had a young woman with her who may have been the PS's assistant and the one to collect flowers.

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    1. Nobody in casual conversation is so precise to clarify "pantsuit" vs "suit" when describing women in business attire. You are stretching to twist my words bc they struck a nerve. I was not saying that Kate was inappropriately attired for the event. I acknowledged that it was sport-themed. I said it looked odd to see the more formally dressed persons curtsying to the woman in track pants because it did. Take offense as you will but that's your issue not what I actually said

      Anon 6:29.

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    2. I dunno...every time I see such an outfit worn by a particular well-known woman mentioned in conversation or described in print it is "pantsuit," not simply "suit."
      There is a distinct difference between pantsuit and suit. If I were casually conversing with friends and said a woman was wearing a suit, it would be assumed I meant a skirt suit.
      Pantsuits are generally worn in less formal occasions, with certain exceptions. The woman greeting Catherine would have seemed out of place wearing a dress or skirt in a sporty milieu. She was not, however, out on the court, chasing after tennis balls with the children as Kate was. Both Kate and the official greeting her were appropriate. Ms. Quinn was appropriate as a professional attendant who was not taking part in the activity.
      Letitcia actually looks better in trousers (and long gowns) and wears them to greet foreign dignitaries, for example. Her lower legs are quite thin in proportion to the rest of her leg. I notice Camilla wears flared trousers with long, almost caftanesque tops- a sort of pantsuit. She recently wore such an outfit deplaning during the current SE Asia tour. The stairs were unusually steep and long . Plus she probably was observing local religious modesty customs. It is also a comfortable traveling outfit. However, I can't imagine Kate wearing such an outfit, no matter what the occasion; nor can I picture Camilla in a track suit. Maxima has worn flared culottes for formal wear: but then, Maxima has worn just about every type of outfit.
      I do think individual preferences and circumstances are allowed consideration, even with royals. And BTW, anyone curtseying in trousers looks strange to me, no matter what the person they are curtseying to is wearing.

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  20. The DM has an article about Kate’s new Private Secretary. They referred to her as Kate’s “girl Friday”, a term they
    used to describe Rebecca Deacon also. Some posters on here defended the term citing, in their view, RD’s lack of experience. (While RD started with limited experience, she grew into her role and became a valued and trusted executive to Kate. Many people start their careers just like that, too.)

    This is a horribly sexist term and used to denigrate these women. William’s PS would never be referred to like that. Shame on the Daily Mail.

    And I thought

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    1. Consider the source, but "Gal Friday" may be a more "reader friendly" term than Private Secretary. And certainly more relatable than "Lady in Waiting" from Princess Diana's day.

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    2. RoyalFan,

      You just made my whole point.

      The PS is an executive level position. This is NOT anything like a lady-in-waiting or an assistant like a "girl Friday". Nor is it reader friendly. How is demeaning the position making it more reader friendly?

      William's PS is never treated like this or described like this because his PS is male. The Queen's PS is also never described like this, he is male also.

      PS are the top executives on both W and K's team. No one is higher. To talk about Kate's in this manner because she's the only one who is female is ridiculous.

      And to compare her to a lady-in-waiting... that has me stunned, RF. Because I know you know a lot about royals.

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    3. I don't know that I usually see Will's PS carrying flowers or bags of junk for him though. He may do those tasks but I don't recall seeing him do it often although I do recall seeing him usually dressed in a suit and looking like an executive (as Kate's new PS does here.) While I liked her and wish her well I never thought Rebecca D looked like an executive. The photos of her I saw typically showed her carrying flowers, stuffed animals, and tote bags overflowing with who knows what while often dressed in tight pants or a very short skirt. So she DID seem like just an extra pair of hands on many occasions rather than a high-ranking executive.

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    4. Well, gee, Lizzie, did you ever consider that she was carrying those things because Kate wanted her to? Why is that a reflection on Rebecca and not really about Kate? And you have never seen William’s PS carrying flowers because William isn’t given flowers like Kate.

      What should Rebecca have done, refused to carry them for Kate?

      The tasks and duties of the PS land at Kate’s doorstep.

      Tight pants and very short skirts??? That’s laughable. Her skirts were much longer than Kate’s and many complimented Rebecca on her updated wardrobe because she could sometimes dress quite matronly. I even remember when Rebecca started wearing make-up, many of us cheered! So, your critique of her wardrobe is off base.

      I find your comments quite sexist. Did you know that William’s PS dated at least two other female staffers among W,K, and H’s quite small office? Does that sound very professional to you? Especially as he would have been in the position of great authority.



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    5. 10:47, I did say "consider the source", no? And by "reader friendly" I simply meant that this same source is more likely to use certain language because of their readers and/or the impact they seek. It was not my intention to demean anyone, or their position. I see nothing demeaning about the role of a Lady in Waiting; I believe it's a title that has/will not be used by Kate's generation of royals, but *some* of the responsibilities have not changed.

      Lady in Waiting, Private Secretary...different titles, different times, but *completely* different roles? You decide.

      http://royalcentral.co.uk/other/the-art-of-the-lady-in-waiting-60753

      Lizzie, I do agree with you regarding *some* of RD's wardrobe choices, while others were on the matronly side. The photos for both scenarios are out there and available for consideration.

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    6. Of course anon 5:58 I know Kate likely asked Rebecca to carry lots of stuff for her. And she may have asked RD to hover so she was in many, many photos taken of Kate. And yes, Will isn't given flowers (although the Queen is & I don't recall her PS hovering a foot or two away holding them.) My point was RD often just "looked like" an extra pair of hands. She "looked like" a personal assistant, not a high-ranking executive. In fact, on the tennis event thread today another anonymous poster asked if RD's title was really PS as he/she thought she was probably only a personal assistant. 

      I have been reading this blog for only about two years but I don't remember any cheering about RD's makeup. But I do remember plenty of negative comments about her less-than-professional appearance particularly during her last yr of work for Kate. Her clothes were too often wrinkled when they weren't excessively short or tight. More than once someone (not me) commented it looked like she just rolled out of bed as her hair appeared uncombed. 

      Whether we like it or not people are judged by the ir appearance in professional situations. And it is unfortunately true professional women face wardrobe challenges men typically don't.  Men can throw on a well-cut suit and tie and it's all good. Most men also don't face the same issue of  "bad hair days" many women do. That may be sexist but it's not MY sexism...it is the way it is in western society these days and when women ignore that reality it is often to our peril. 

      I have no idea who MH has or hasn't dated. (And when I googled I found no mention of his dating habits) I agree office romances can be problematic...if we didn't already know it from our own work experience we have seen it cause problems among WK&H's staff including Rebecca's fizzled romance with Nick L. But I assume the women you mentioned you know MH dated were willing dating partners. So I don't really see how he would necessarily deserve blame. Of course you are entitled to your own opinion just as I am. And my opinion is 1) we are allowed to criticize a woman without being guilty of sexism. Calling every criticism sexism minimizes the real sexism that exists and 2) Not every relationship with a higher ranking male is some sort of harassment.

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  21. Do we think there is anything to the rumors that Kate is expecting twins? I know this comes up with each pregnancy but I feel like I'm hearing about it more this time around!

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