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[Updated 3rd Photo] Harry & Meghan's Official Engagement Photos!

Thursday, December 21, 2017

Meghan Markle and Prince Harry have released their engagement photos!! These beautiful shots were taken at Frogmore House, Windsor just this month, by celebrity photographer Alexi Lubomirski:




Meghan's dress is a custom piece from Ralph & Russo and costs $75,000!



162 comments:

  1. Lovely photographs. They look so much in love.

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  2. Oh wow, they are gorgeous photos! I am speechless.

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  3. Is there any ID on that dress Meghan is wearing in the first photo? It's gorgeous

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  4. A bit for a private album, in my opinion...

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  5. Beautiful pictures. Is that dress sheer, however? If so, quite inappropriate for a royal bride-to-be no? And I read the dress cost 75k?! I certainly hope it was a loner, as I believe it would be in poor taste to wear a dress worth more then most people's annual salary..

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    1. 75k is definitely a bit of a splurge 😉 I would assume it's on loan because she can't wear the dress at other events and then why would she keep a 75k dress hanging around in her closet?

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    2. Agree. Tone-deaf to pick a dress that is this expensive, even if it's a loner. High risk of appearing very out-of-touch.

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    3. I agree that the dress is expensive. But I would also remind readers that Meghan had a career and earned her own income prior to announcing the engagement. The dress is not paid for by the "public purse". Often, when the Duchess wears expensive pieces, she's more often applauded for "finally stepping into her role as a royal" etc. rather than criticized for spending so much of the public's money.

      I would encourage readers to be a bit more generous in their criticism of a women who wore a dress that she paid for with money that she made on her own.

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    4. Not sure that dress was paid by her. And even if it was, I still think it is inappropriate it is so expensive.

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    5. Does anyone have any idea how much the Queen and Princess Margaret spent on their gowns at that age?! How about the jewels The royals wear regularly? If Meghan showed up for her engagement photos in jeans and a t-shirt people would be claiming she doesn't respect the role she's marrying in. Give it a break.

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    6. For me, it really doesn't matter if she paid for it herself or not. It was a photo intended to be released to the public, because they are in public roles. It's about being attuned to and demonstrating sensitivity to what's appropriate to the role and situation. She can wear million dollar dresses around the house and working in the garden for all I care, but this was a photo to be publicly released due to Harry's position and public role in the royal family. I'm sure she could have found a very beautiful dress that cost significantly less money, so there just was no need to even risk the possibility of a negative reaction.
      Not a great decision; I do hope they get some better advisors to help them avoid silly, avoidable pitfalls.

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    7. Princess Margaret was not allowed to marry a divorcee.Times have changed and the mood now although it is more lenient in terms of morality is much more austere. There is no point in following Margaret or even Diana in spending, it simply isn't the way the public looks at things nowadays.

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    8. Wow - some people are so mean spirited. She has her own money. I HIGHLY doubt the British taxpayer spent a penny on that dress.

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    9. 4:18, you summed it up best.

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    10. 4:18 I completely agree. My sentiments exactly.

      -Brooke

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  6. These pictures are truly beautiful. When I look at the second photo, I almost feel like I'm intruding on a private moment. Sort of like I need to look away because this wasn't intended for my eyes if that makes any sense at all! Maybe it's just because we're not used to members of the RF showing any signs of PDA. I'm totally fine with however people want to show their love for each other, more subtly or more publicly, but I have to say that this is definitely a breath of fresh air.

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    1. I think that is what the commenter who said "private album" meant. Yes, what you say about looking away makes sense to me, Kirsten.

      I think they were operating on the "go big or go home" principle. Ha!

      Still, beautiful photos and I appreciate Harry and Meghan's sharing. They may be aware of the PDA discussion about William and Kate, which is, I think, another example of a premise for a conclusion being built on a false statement. Just as the idea that Kate was over-looked has become a fact to some with frequent repetition, so this no PDA idea has spread. W&K DO display affection constantly in subtle, tasteful ways---a hand on Kate's back, a smile, a glance...and sometimes more openly in less formal environments: the Olympic exuberant hug and more recently, hand-holding during the Sandringham church walk and hugs at the London Marathon. I don't think any other direct heir royal couple has so openly displayed affection. I have seen hints with Phillip and Elizabeth, but no hugs, even as newly marrieds. Plenty of young couples held hands in public in the 50's, so I don't think it is a generational matter. The higher up the succession, the more circumscribed the behavior in the BRF.
      And I don't think anything says Love more clearly than going through HG three times. You'd have to love a guy a lot to go through that to have his babies. :+) anon1

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    2. Long time reader from Portugal, but it´s the first time that I comment. Sorry for my english, I am not a native speaker:) Displaying PDA in public has nothing to do with the state of a marriage inside doors. I think that Kate and William are an excellent match and truly love each other but are more reserved people and more self-aware. Me and my husband are very introvert and a little stiff when we are in public situations. In our wedding there were no kisses in public, not giving cake to each other and I thing we didn´t even hold hands. Nevertheless we have been happily married for 9 years and are completely crazy at home with names we make up for each other and always hugging:)
      Merry Christmas for all the readers and Jane, of course:)

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    3. Manuela-very good point. anon1

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  7. I am sorry I am going to be very negative, but I think Meghan's dress is awful! She seems half naked...And an evening gown when Harry is in a light blue suit? In the 2nd one they are better coordinated but as Kristen says, one wants to look away,it is just too intimate. And too much sugar for my taste!

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    1. Totally agree!!

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    2. The pboto is very intimate but I didn't mean it negatively. More like it's an unexpected but welcome change to how the RF usually interacts with the public. They are usually quite distant but I like that these photos are so personal.

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    3. An interesting KP note: the third photo was a thank-you from Harry and Meghan for the many kind wishes and thoughts with the first two. It was actually originally meant as a personal photo. If fans want to continue to see personal photos like this we need to appreciate the ones we get. They might just decide to not share any more than required.ann1

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    4. Anon 9:07...I totally agree! Her dress says evening, his suit day, 2nd photo...just too "intimate" and 3rd...same as 1st. And the price tag? Whew!
      I had no idea who she was until a few months back. Never even seen the show she's been in. There's just something about her that seems ungenuine. I didn't care for the engagement interview so much. A few comments were, what I thought, a bit contrived. How could anyone not "know" Prince Harry? There's even a photo of her and a friend, high school age maybe, of them posing in front of BP. I don't believe her for a second! Even going back to those social media photos she posted a bit earlier in the relationship i.e. the spooning bananas and the bracelet etc. It was all about her showcasing her "relationship" while Harry was trying to keep it quiet. Put all this together and I'm not so into her. I really like the Harry we see and he looks very happy so I guess that's what matters. But I'll stick with Kate. I actually find Kate more relatable than Meghan.

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    5. You do realize that you don’t need to pick between the two women Cara? It’s not a competition, just 2 different women matching 2 very different men.

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  8. These pictures are absolutely gorgeous. It demonstrates their love. I’m all here for it. Cheers to the happy couple.

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  9. Someone wrote that Harry looks like all his Christmases have come at once in the B&W photo of them embracing. I think that's a wonderful way to look at this relationship, they're so happy in these photos it looks like Christmas morning for the both of them all the time!

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    1. Ah, that is a perfect sentiment :). The photos are GORGEOUS and while I myself may hesitate to release the second pic if I were in their position (it's a little intimate; reminds me of my best friend who placed a picture of her and her new husband practically making out at their wedding as the first picture anyone sees going in to their house) it is still nice to see.

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    2. My thoughts exactly - he looks so so happy and he deserves it - re the dress, I actually love it - Meghan is a bit edgy and I love that too. x

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  10. Beautiful photos and a really good photographer. The happiness shows in the photographs. However it really leaves a sour taste in my mouth that they chose a 75k sheer dress! It just sends the wrong message. I'm sure it's probably a loaner but promoting a brand this way is just not what royals do. I wish she would have chosen a more conservative dress that sends a message of relatability.

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    1. I agree with you.

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    2. I totally agree and the cost of the dress makes her look a bit like a spendthrift. Trying too hard to impress. Over the top.

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  11. Gorgeous couple, gorgeous pictures. Very Hollywood and not all that royal though, imo:(

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    1. I've always wanted Kate to wear Ralph and Russo. I think they do have some less Red Carpet looks that would be appropriate for Kate.
      I think Meghan may be saying, "Hey, this part of my background. This is me. Get over it. My experiences will serve the royal family in many ways." She wore a cocktail gown to the Games. An over-sized shirt and skinny jeans to her first official appearance with Harry. This comes as no surprise to me. Kate should be allowed to express herself and so should Meghan.

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    2. I doubt saying "get over it" to the BRF will go over well. Of course, Meghan and Kate should be theirselves but both need to do so within the context of the royal family. Times are changing of, course, but not sure fragrance advertisement engagement pictures are the way to go. I think there's truth to the concept that when the royals become celebrities, they put their gravitas and legacy in danger.

      I've tried to get on board with these photos for the last 24 hrs but have just ended up feeling that this is a vain, self absorbed women who is opening flaunting her wealth.

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    3. Faith, I think you have accurately described the unease people have when viewing these photos and with what was seen in her engagement interview and her social media postings, she appears to be very self absorbed. This may not be accurate, but it is how it reads.

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    4. Key words Faith, "within the context of the RF". Absolutely right.

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  12. love this pictures. You can see so much of the love they share wich each other. Really awsome.

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  13. As glamorous as this dress was, £75,000 is inappropriate. Yikes.
    Fashion note: her high-end glamour and PH's every-day work suit didn't quite work in the photos....

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  14. So many comments: one must remember a couple of things regarding Meghan. 1.she is from the United States specifically Sunny Cal! Wardrobe in sunny California = causal attire. 2. Meghan’s profession is an actress....the dress in the engagement photo is truly Hollywood glam. She will bring a different fashion looks from the Bristish ladies. Maybe one should be less critical and think of it as refreshing. Regarding the price of the dress....remember she made a good salary as an actress & quite possibly the dress was on loan to her?

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    1. Hollywood glam is hardly refreshing if you are from the US. Just pick up any magazine and this is what you will see. Looks like an engagement interview featured in VF; an actress and her fiance, not a royal and his fiancee.

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    2. I agree with you - I think Meghan will definitely inject some glamour into the Royal family, but while I'm sue her stylist got this gown on loan, and it's gorgeous, I might have chosen something a little less expensive as I know people will complain about the price of this gown. I also think these pictures are gorgeous, and they both look ver happy.

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    3. Yes, completely agree! I am so excited about them! It's about time someone brings Hollywood glamor to the table! 🙌🏼

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    4. That's precisely the problem, anon. She is marrying into an esteemed institution. It's not and should not be Hollywood anymore. The royals are not celebrities. The royals often pay for the price of their wardrobes in full so as not to appear bias and not to carry any debt of gratitude. Whether it was a loaner or paid in full, it still does not send out the right message in this time of austerity. Sorry to dampen the mood, but it's a huge PR fail for me.

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    5. KP just confirmed that the dress was privately purchased. If it actually cost $75k, I think it was a huge mistake to wear it.

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    6. I agree Rita - a huge PR fail.

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    7. Being an actress and in the spotlight and on display was a part of her identity for many years. She may gradually tone it down but I almost hope she doesn't. Some of Princess Michael's earlier outfits were somewhat trendy, I believe.
      Some of the gowns HM wore in her twenties and thirties would have looked at home on a red carpet. Actually, the royals have and still do walk the Red Carpet. It isn't exactly walking the plank. A little glam never hurt a monarchy. anon1

      PS maybe the media should stop publishing the cost of people's gowns.

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    8. Meghan's profession is no longer actress, she is now a working member of the Royal Firm. When you join a company you join that culture and learn to live within rules appropriate to it.

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    9. I understand your point anon 4:23 but in my view MM is hardly a "working member of the Royal Firm" at this point. I have no doubt she will be, but I really don't think an engagement that's a few weeks old automatically conveys membership in the club nor does it convey the expectation that she currently "works for" that group.

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    10. I think what some of us are saying is the rules are obviously changing, and none too soon. Many a company has failed because it did not keep up with changing needs and culture. The very fact that Harry and Meghan are not only being married but in a church ceremony as well illustrates the changing face of the BRF.. anon1

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    11. Lizzie - In this case, I think it does. There has been an official announcement from the palace, a public engagement interview, one public engagement already, updates on wedding plans released, and engagement photos released to the public....she works for the Firm. It's similar to when a company hires a high profile executive and makes an announcement s/he will be joining the organization on a certain date. Even if it's before your start date, you've agreed to sign-on and are now known to the public so you do have an obligation to that organization to represent them.

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  15. Beautiful photos of a beautiful couple. It is wonderful to see Harry happy and in love. Wishing them continued joy and peace. May their love last forever.

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  16. Jane I hope your semester ended well and I am still eagerly awaiting your thoughts on the engagement interview.

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  17. They look fabulous, and so much in love. I love it! As for sugar, can't have enough in this world, as far as I'm concerned.

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  18. Beautiful photographs but agree that the dress and Harry's suit do not work and I find the dress distracting from the purpose of the photographs. The shots of her and Harry while she is wearing the gown look like a shoot for the dress and not really an engagement photo. Gorgeous yes but does not quite work. The sheerness did not bother me as it looks either lined or the way it is photographed I can not see anything at all but I find the dress takes center stage and not Meghan and most importantly not the two of them as a couple.

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  19. Completely blown away by their obvious genuine love, and so happy for them! Also very happy for the royal family, Meghan is a breath of fresh air, intelligence and grace. Harry could not have picked a better wife, I am thrilled for him! Will and Kate are in for more fun too, as Harry and Meghan join them in the married club, and eventually the married with children club! A truly wonderful future ahead for all.

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  20. I really love the dress and the pictures. In my opinion these two are very deep in love.

    But I have to agree with some other users: the dress is far to expensive for a princess/duchess in making. I think Meghan is not aware yet under what public scrutiny she is and will be. She should get some princess-training and take a page of Kates (and Dianas) book. I wonder why nobody (Harry, assistants, PR-people, or maybe Kate) told her to rethink her choice of dress. Even if they paid it on their own as KP said it implies some negative vibes.

    However, I think these two are in love and the pictures are fantastic. Mistakes happen and Meghan will learn from it. M&H will bring a breath of fresh air to the RF :)

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    1. Um are you aware of how expensiveness Diana's wardrobr was anon 11:48? Bespoke designer ensembles are not cheap.

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    2. Anon 11:48 - Completely agree on the need for some guidance and training. But it's really Sophie Wessex whom she should emulate. Kate will always be in a different position; there are some benefits she'll gain from that elevated position, but also more restraints. Meghan will have more freedom and privacy overtime. I don't think I'd consider Princess Diana a great role model either. Sophie Wessex would be ideal. And where to look for "don'ts"? Sarah Ferguson.

      Sadly, I've noticed hints of the Sarah Ferguson experience in this story already. I am old enough to remember when Sarah joined the royal family. So many in the press and among the public where saying "Breath of fresh air!" at the time. But it quickly turned. There is relatively small margin for mistakes and errors. I really do hope they are getting some good advice and that Meghan is ready to let go of many things so she can settle in and embrace the best of what this new life and role can offer. If she does that, she can be a wonderful asset to the Royal Family. If not, it will be a rocky road.

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  21. I have been a bit negative on the dress for these photos but the more I look at the photos the less distracted I am by the dress. So maybe with a few more viewings it is not as distracting. The photos do show a very much in love couple and they are excellent of Harry which is really nice. She is so gorgeous that taking a photo that highlights him as well as the two as a couple is wonderful.

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  22. They look lovely and happy in these photos and I'm so happy for Harry. I think Meghan's dress is too much red carpet and not very royal engagement while bordering on inappropriate. I also found the "show the ring in every setting" hand placement really awkward looking. I know I'll take flack for this but either the photographer or the clothing, maybe both, gave the impression of trying too hard. I know much is being made about Meghan being a Hollywood actress but, in all honesty, she's not A-list. Most people had never heard of her before she started dating Harry. I wish she would have worn something more in keeping with how Harry was dressed and more relatable to those she will serve as a member of the BRF.

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    1. Sorry, did you find it inappropriate when Kate showed the ring in every setting? That's what an engagement photo is, the ring is the 3rd person! I did same and I'm a complete nobody.

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    2. Kate's ring was prominently displayed in each of their engagement photos too

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    3. I'm just saying the way the hand was placed looked awkward. That's the photographers fault for not finding a more natural way to pose them. Especially the one where they are sitting on the steps. It just looks odd to me. In the close up I would rather see her hand resting on Harry's shoulder than grabbing his face. I know I'm in the minority but it's just an opinion. Kate's ring was a third and fourth person in each picture. I love that she wears Diana's ring but, let's face it, we all still call it "Diana's ring" first and foremost. It's wonderful that Kate has put an eternity ring along with her wedding band to make it unique to her.

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    4. I'm with Robin. In fact I almost always find pics of the hand placement just so conveniently showing off the ring in ever. single. shot. to be contrived looking. Yes, even Kate's photos, just because she did it does not absolve it for me.

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    5. I think most newly engaged women become suddenly left-handed. It IS a beautiful ring. anon1

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    6. Robin - I find the second photo odd, the black-and-white close up shot. It's actually a really lovely picture and looks very editorial. I think that's why I don't love it as a real-life engagement photo. It's a little too "perfect" and feels like a magazine advertisement for a jewelry company rather than feeling real. I don't mind the one on the steps. It looks posed, but more like a normal couple than an advertisement. The third one they released of them walking is also a really beautiful shot and if I were them I'd definitely frame that one and place it in my home. The only reason that one bugs me is because (at least for me) I found Meghan to be too over-the-top, touchy-feely during their engagement interview and this shot reminds me of it.

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    7. I went and had a look at those W&K engagement photos. The ring is also on display. But I was astonished at how young and fresh they were! In comparison H&M are gorgeous but middle aged.

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    8. Heaven help us all if 33 is considered middle age! Yikes!

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  23. I saw a post that KP confirmed the dress was privately purchased. Does anyone know if this is accurate? They are a gorgeous couple; a very editorial and intimate shoot.

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    1. The fact that KP had to release an official confirmation about this shows how bad of a mis-step this choice was....unfortunate and totally avoidable. Harry is not young and has been at this game for his lifetime. He sould have known better.

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  24. I read that Kensington Palace confirmed that the dress was privately purchased. Whether or not it was for the speculated $75,000, or purchased by Meghan herself or by Prince Harry or Prince Charles I'm sure we'll never know but hopefully we'll see it again in the future at some fantastic event. I may be wrong but in the photo I saw in Daily Mail of them in the sitting photo I thought I saw a sheer panel of sorts at the bust line. I wonder if added (because it's not there on the model that wore it on the catwalk) so that Meghan could wear it without it being too revealing. I love the pics, though in the beginning I did question the formalness of the dress with his "daytime" suit but I got past it. I wonder if she slipped the white sweater on over the dress and they have some black and white pics with the white sweater and that lovely full bottom of the dress and him in the Burberry coat.....I could see that be a stunning photo!! Looks like Harry has finally gone to a more tailored fit of trouser.....which I love.......for far too long he wore a longer and loser fit. Merry Christmas all......can hardly wait for viewing the Christmas walk at Sandringham!

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    1. SLH-I had a random thought. Since Christmas is on a Monday and Christmas Eve on Sunday, I wonder if they will do the church walk both days? Or even just Sunday? I guess there would have been prior notice if the tradition of the Christmas Day walk were to be changed, even for just one year. anon1

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    2. The Queen and probably Prince Philip I'm sure will attend Sunday morning services as she rarely misses.......and they will be driven. The family will not arrive to Sandringham until Christmas eve (at various times with the most senior royals arriving last) and then the family walk will happen on Christmas morning.

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    3. I've thought about this some more and some family may have chosen to arrive on Saturday and therefore might attend Sunday services. For instance, I could see Anne The Princess Royal and her husband Timothy Laurence, Prince Edward and his family, maybe even Prince Andrew possibly there early and if they attended St. Mary's on Sunday I think they would walk. I just don't see the Cambridges, PH and MM, Charles and Camilla making a public appearance until Monday. Maybe we'll be surprised!

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  25. I find the photos stunning and exciting. I love that Harry and Meghan are not trying to duplicate William and Kate. They are enough removed from the throne now that they can get away with being a bit more adventurous. In my opinion, the Royal Family needs them - they are often so staid and removed. These two display a warmth and genuineness that is very refreshing. Kate is doing a fantastic job in her role, but her quiet demeanor and reticence at times is a bit boring. I do not mean to be critical, I am trying to be descriptive - I understand that that is who she is. That is perfectly fine and appropriate - but for Royal Watchers, this is like a breath of fresh air. I say "carry on, Harry and Meghan" - start as you mean to go. Diana would have loved this!! If this is the engagement dress, ladies - what will the wedding dress look like???

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    1. What will the wedding dress look like? All of a sudden I'm afraid to ask. This dress may have been approved by Harry but it is not the way to bring the monarchy forward. If you want your work to stand out and make yourself relevant as royalty in today's world you shouldn't a) wear a dress that cost three times the median income of a British citizen, and b) you shouldn't fly in the face of all that is traditional because there are older people who still love and appreciate the decorum of HM's generation. These engagement photos are a big faux pas.

      I'm afraid that this couple's glamorous appeal may be short lived if they don't stop saying one thing and doing another. You can't advocate for the underprivileged while flaunting your wealth and privilege. There are already some in the Hollywood community who have known her in the past starting to reveal that she has always been an opportunist. This "breath of fresh air" could backfire if she wants to be royal and Hollywood at the same time and, while Harry has a big smile on his face right now, is this the type of relationship that will endure past this romanticism stage? Political correctness aside, because there are those who will cry hate or racism or any other number of names on this instead of an objective look, I don't see this as the be all and end all everyone hopes it will be.

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    2. "Saying one thing and doing another"? I suppose that does sound like many in Hollywood. Yet we are supposed to take the word of "some in the Hollywood community" as being accurate (& not self-serving) when speaking about Meghan's character? And so far as "flaunting privilege"...surely MM can't be held accountable for the actions of the BRF, a family that doesn't exactly hide its considerable privilege.

      I have to say I'm surprised how short the "honeymoon" has been for M&H. At least Andrew & Sarah got past the altar before the *more major* attacks began. W&K did attract some neģative press pre-marriage given their prolonged on-off courtship but once they were married, they did have a fairly long period of goodwill. I have no idea if this marriage will succeed. Nor does anyone else here. But maybe let them get married first?

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    3. Anon 7.22, I'm in total agreement with you! I was all for this union until these engagement photos were released & details emerged of the price of this dress. What was she thinking?! I know it's couture & she looks stunning, but I think it's totally inappropriate to wear this kind of outfit for official royal engagement photos. She hasn't even married the man yet & has already put a foot wrong! This is not a good representation of the British people she is about to serve. She seems rather spend thrift & extravagant...Kate is in that position now, but she gradually got to the point where she could spend thousands on an outfit. Meghan isn't even an official royal yet! She needs to toe the line...or I'm afraid, she may go the way of Fergie & become an outcast.

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    4. I do agree a little with 7:22 about the image projected by this dress. Diana wore off the peg for her engagement photos (it was not attractive); Kate's Reiss was probably around $300 and in her casual photo she wore an off the peg blouse from Whistles. One of the biggest complaints republicans in Britain have about the royal family is that they're an extravagance and cost the taxpayers too much money. Whether everyone agrees with that or not (I don't) it just doesn't seem very smart if you're trying to create good will.

      As for the "Hollywood rumors", I did hear a talk show host actually say the word "opportunist" the day after the engagement was announced. I can't remember her name because I don't usually watch daytime tv - maybe someone else knows. She's a black woman and the only other thing I know about her is that she's not Oprah. It only caught my ear because they were talking about the engagement. She was pretty harsh though.

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    5. I agree the pictures were a faux pas. That dress in that context is bordering on ridiculous. She is overdressed, or he is underdressed but those are engagement photographs not the ball of the debutantes in Paris. I remember heated discussions on the appropriateness of Kate's attire, for instance the pink coat in NY. At the time, the mere fact there were people shocked by her choice and a polemic about it was used as an argument for saying it was inappropriate. Here, many people are shocked by the choice of dress, its Hollywoodness and its price. If it starts such a polemic, it is a faux pas.
      I will add being "one's own women" can be admirable but can easily lead to " no consideration for others "

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    6. Anon 7:22 you absolutely can advocate for the underprivileged while flaunting your own wealth and privilege. People do it all the time include the entire rest of the BRF. Kate "flaunts" her wealth regularlary when she wears eye-watering gems and TIARAS paired with bespoke couture gowns to official royal events. it is unrealistic to expect the monarchy to suddenly stop exuding wealth and privilege because the BRF is *not* like everyone else even if they are at times or seek to be relatable. (I am not comparing the women - just pointing out that some commenters seem to have selective memory when criticizing Meghan - or Kate - for doing things "nobody" in the BRF does).

      When Meghan wore jeans people complained she was not respecting the BRF because she was too casual. But apparently she is also not supposed to "dress the part" because then she is not respecting the BRF by exposing their wealth and formality. There is no way for her to win.

      Finally - who flew in the face of all that was traditional and was beloved for it? Diana. Harry's mother whom he loves and misses. So if there is something about Meghan that makes Harry happy because it brings something back into his life that he missed and needs then maybe just maybe that's more important than him choosing a wife that meets the fickle and impossible creiteria of "fans" who seem to have unrealistic memories and expectations of the BRF.

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    7. I am stunned as well Lizzie but would say the honeymoon never even happened. But I'm more disappointed that people who will (rightly) flinch and object to nasty attacks on one side, seem more than happy to engage it in themselves now, before Harry and Meghan are even man and wife.

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    8. Anon 7:48, Kate did not personally buy the royal jewels and tiaras she wears. They belong to the Queen. There is a difference.

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    9. 7:48 that's just it, she is not dressing the part. Her dress is as incongruous as wearing a tiara with jeans. And the RF nay exude wealth, they do not flaunt it.

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    10. Claiming the BRF does not flaunt its wealth is simply not true. Numerous castles, fleets of customized luxury vehicles, bespoke couture gowns and eye-watering jewels exude wealth.

      And Anon 12:02 Kate (or someone else) has purchased very expensive jewels for Kate's private collection. The Cartier trinity necklace comes to mind, as well as the earrings she wore to the gala in NYC.

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    11. I'm not quite sure where the line is drawn between exuding wealth and flaunting it.

      The BRF have elaborate coronations and openings of Parliament where the Queen, until this year, is considerably blinged out. The whole point is to impress. Demonstrations of wealth equate to power and power demands respect and obedience. This of course was more obvious 100+ years ago. The Scandinavian countries have down-played overt shows of extreme wealth in royal ceremonies but they still live in palaces, wear gorgeous clothes, and take costly vacations.
      The Queen may take a train at times instead of using the family helicopter, but One can hardly downplay palaces-the biggest display of opulence and wealth there is. Or household staff numbering in the hundreds. Thoroughbred horses and high end vehicles.
      Meghan fits right in, if she has expensive tastes.

      However--I had a random thought. What if Meghan did not know the cost of the gown when she selected it? I am sure she would have realized R&R wasn't going to come cheap; but I was surprised at the amount and she may have been, too. I can easily imagine Harry taking her to a salon and saying," Choose what ever suits your fancy, sweetheart."
      Then who's being inappropriate or creating a bad image? Of course, we don't know how it all came about and that's the point.
      By printing the supposed retail cost of the gown, the tabloids have provided ammunition for several camps.
      I'd say the only objective way to publish costs of royal items is to print all the costs of all the royals or none; to selectively publish costs of items admits bias and an agenda. Use the same format in which Meghan's dress was presented-in a forum the internet commenters read. The annual listing of royal expenses does not itemise and who reads it, anyway.
      The fact that readers of those forums don't realise their buttons are being pushed amazes me. anon1

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    12. Yes, 1:05, very important distinction there.

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    13. Excellent point anon1. We don’t actually know what Meghan paid for the gown & tabloids who,printed the $75,000 tag will sell more papers if Meghan is a scandalous villain/rebel they can compare to Kate. Don’t fall for the bait!

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    14. Anon 5:02, people who are “supposed” to be wealthy “exude” their wealth but people who are not “supposed” to be wealthy “flaunt” it.

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    15. The queen may live in a palace, have a vault full of jewels to choose from, and be driven around in a Rolls Royce. However, in private time she is far more likely to wear a raincoat, practical boots and a headscarf. On her "day off", we do not see her wearing a mink coat to watch a horse race. That is the distinction between having wealth and flaunting it Imo.

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    16. That may be true these days royalfan but there was plenty of mink in HMQs younger days. And some might consider going to a horse race to bet on the numerous thoroughbreds you own to be flaunting ones wealth.

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    17. I agree with that assessment, royalfan. The queen may wear a beautiful brooch when on official duties but she doesn't wear her tiaras and drip in all of the jewels at her disposal every time she steps out of the door. And, yes, in her private time she has her headscarf on and drives her Range Rover herself. She is actually said to be quite frugal (bordering on cheap). They do not buy extravagant gifts either. Didn't Kate say she gave the Queen homemade jam for Christmas one year?

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    18. Was that the year the Queen gifted W&K a country estate Robin? The BRF might exchange inexpensive Christmas presents but it’s not true that they don’t give each other very expensive and luxurious presents at other times. I have no problem acknowledging the immense wealth of the monarchy and see no reason why they should pretend they don’t have it. What I don’t get is people who seem to want to pretend the BRF is living on a budget.

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  26. Well finally we get some real stuff. Real feelings, real emotions, real life, real LOVE. Thank you Harry and Meghan for sharing and for beeing yourselves. Just keep it coming. Absolutely fantastic couple.

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    1. Are you saying you don't think William and Kate really love each other? What an odd statement.

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    2. You do not have to display emotion in order for your love or your life to be real. If Harry and Meghan wish to share it, that is wonderful, but their business entirely. For those royals who wish to keep their lives and emotions more discreet, that is also wonderful, and their business. Tomato tomato, I say. I for one am a friendly and cheerful person at work, but I keep my private life private. Does that make my life less real? I think not.

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    3. Robin, where did I mention William and Kate?

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    4. Thanks, Robin, for asking for clarification. I am getting weary of "breath of fresh air" remarks that obviously hold an underlying comparison of the two couples.
      I think many here agreed that comparisons between Harry and Meghan and William and Catherine (which often are veiled criticisms of W&/or C ) do not promote a reasonable discussion and spark the need to defend one's favorite; yet they continue in poorly-disguised form, where-by innuendoes are made but enough vagueness is left to allow deniability.

      If the older, established members of the BRF are the point of comparison it should be stated. Otherwise, the remarks about perceived improvements will be read as comparisons to William and Catherine, as most of the "improved," "fresh" areas involve popular criticisms of W&C--PDA, Kate's attire, Kate's public speaking, repetitive analysis of Kate's demeanor ( nervous vs relaxed, etc.)...anon1

      I think the consensus here also was that each women and each couple brings a unique set of values and talents to the BRF. Their roles and future position as well as their abilities and selected interests are varied and don't really intersect except in their Foundation work-where their uniqueness will also enhance their work.

      I know it is easy to say something that is misunderstood-I know it doesn't feel good when that happens. Some may have made those implied comparisons with kindly intent and others may be repeating something read elsewhere, without considering the implications.

      There are others, though, who have an agenda and will promote it and defend it whenever and wherever they get an opening. That's who I am talking to. And you know who you are.

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    5. Anonymous, 2:19 - your lengthy response is very well written and thoughtful - and I agree with much of what you say. Please remember though, we are all entitled to our opinions and allowed to phrase our thoughts however we wish, as long as they follow the guidelines stated for this blog.

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  27. Ladies, I present the possibility that Meghan's attire, the beautiful glamorous dress for the engagement photo, and the lovely Self Portrait dress for the luncheon are clothes that have very much been approved by Prince Harry. He is obviously smitten with her, as a fiancé should be, and he wants her to sparkle - hence the statement outfits. She is not quiet and reticent, she is confident and feminine, and her choices in outfits reflect that. Perfectly appropriate, as are Kate's quieter choices appropriate to her. Enjoy both, Royal Watching is supposed to be fun!!! Can't wait for the wedding dress....

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    1. I'm sure Harry does approve and it's lovely if she wants to dress up for her future husband in their private time. This was an official engagement photo for relatively senior members of the royal family. Making the best decision that will land most positively with the public is a priority.

      Harry (and now Meghan) are just not private people anymore. They work for the Firm. The job has lots of perks and lots of restrictions/requirements. If you want the perks (or even if you honestly don't care about the perks but you just happened to fall in love with someone already in the Firm and you you love him enough to join), you have to understand and consider how the Firm will benefit from or be hurt by your choices and actions.

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    2. Anonymous 8:45 pm - the public is fical and generally quite capable of putting the Royals regularly in a "no win " situation... Meghan's choice of attire pleased herself and her husband - are appropriate for posterity, and thrilled many people. She is not "working" for the Firm when she poses for her engagement photos, nor will she be when she marries. Those are her special moments. They are quite different from her Royal work tasks. To put it simply, she can wear whatever she and Harry like at these times. It is not our place to mix the two.

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    3. Which public are you referring to 8:45? Citizens of the uk? The commonwealth? Fans of the BRF generally?

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  28. Absolutely stunning photos! It’s apparent that Harry and Meghan plan to blaze their own trail. I’m old enough to recall the contrasts between between Diana’s engagement to Prince Charles to that of Sarah Ferguson to Prince Andrew. At the time, Sarah was greeted by the public as a breath of fresh air. Of course, the press later soured on her and she did make major missteps (to put it mildly). However, the circumstances of the heir to the thrown and his younger brother is both cases is so similar as is the choice of partners and the expectations for each to their role. Diana and Sarah became good friends. Sadly when Diana loosened up a bit, her behavior in public (with Sarah) was criticized ... but later Sarah was criticized for being less dignified than Diana. The comparisons were unfair and it seemed neither could win. I hope Kate and Meghan will not be compared in a manner that casts criticism on the other. See old People covers ‘The Merry Wives of Windsor’ showing Diane and Sarah arriving at an event together and polling their brollies into the bottom of a friend. And, their antics on the ski slopes that let Charles to rebuke Diana publicly. They were a fun duo for a short time, before it turned competitive between them and they each struggled with unhappiness in their marriages. Not sure why I’ve got off on this tangent. Kate and Meghan are quite different - and considerably older and more mature, than Diana and Sarah, however, the similarities in circumstances really strike me. I look forward to many years of pleasure following these two beautiful woman as they move the monarchy forward.

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    1. All of the people close to Diana who have written books (Dickie Arbiter, Patrick Jephson, Paul Burrell, Ken Wharfe) say that she backed away from Sarah after it became apparent that her behavior was not in keeping with the dignity of her position as Princess of Wales and the mother of a future king. I think only the press claimed it had something to do with a competition between the two.

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  29. Alexandra from CanadaDecember 21, 2017 at 7:13 PM

    It's a beautiful dress. For God sakes it's couture and she pulls it off splendidly. Would I love to see Kate in Ralph and Russo? HECK YES! But for the very first photo you are going to publicly release, no. Just no.
    That said maybe this is trying to send us a message that Meghan will be her own person with her views and fashion. It would not be unusual for celebrity to wear a dress like this. Angelina Jolie wore R&R to meet the Queen! So as much as disagree with price point, this is obviously telling us that she is going to be an altogether different kind of Duchess.

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    1. Well said , Alexandra from Canada. Meghan is not going to be Kate 2. She is going to forge her own path, and is going to do it boldly. We can all enjoy watching two very different women...

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    2. I hate the overuse and mis use of the word "stunning," but Angelina's stylish yet dignified suit she wore on that occasion was all that. Truly memorable. Talk about a woman who purposefully and successfully changed the entire direction of her life..anon1

      PS I honestly can't see the problem with the style of Meghan's dress. I don't know what to think about the price. I think we might consider why that dress cost so much to begin with. And why its price was included when the cost of Camilla's and the Queen's aren't. And when did she have time for all those fittings for recent and up-coming events? The woman is truly a multi-tasker!

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  30. I see comments about the price of the dress. 1st, we don't what the dress actually cost. 2nd, she selected this dress for pictures that are being seen over the entire world, and will be part of history as we've seen all the previous royal engagement photos being shown again today. In that sense ut was an investment and I thought it did a good job of communicating to the world who Meghan is. Meghan's relatability comes not from the price of her dress, but from her emotional availability. How she dresses and carries her self may be more aspirational than relatable.

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  31. Love, love, love these photos. Finally a bit of fun and true glamour to follow. Hollywood? No, no this is some Royal Glamour... Rather than fuss over the price of the dress, ( hello, everyone, it may be severely discounted ), snipe about Harry's more casual suit ..., let's just enjoy the stunning photos of a couple clearly in love. Royal Watching is supposed to be fun and it's been a tad boring for a bit now. Excited for the next months of Harry and Meghan...


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  32. Count me in as someone not thrilled with the choice of dress. As someone from the Commonwealth, we look to them as representatives of the current climate. They are beautiful photos, but just a PR fail. A different and less expensive dress would have been perfect!

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  33. My thoughts on the photos ... I LOVE the first one. The second is more private. And the third has a high-end, glamour magazine advertisement vibe to it.

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  34. Peter and Autumn's wedding reception was at Frogmore.

    https://us.hellomagazine.com/celebrities/gallery/2017111644067/peter-phillips-autumn-kelly-wedding-photos/13/

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  35. I want to say first that I wish them every happiness . This said....The list price for the dress is a mortgage for people who live in smaller non south England small towns. A mortgage. Or an expensive luxury car. And the list price is all that matters. An investment in a dress that costs more than a car is just silly.. The cost of her wedding dress should be much more wisely thought out. This cost the typical price for a whole tour of clothing at least. One might manage money a whole lot better so that the nest egg of both good feeling and funds the Princess of Wales left is not spent in haste.

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  36. Celebrity is the word that worries me and I think this will end badly. I hope I am wrong, I love Harry but she is all wrong for the job. Time will tell

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    1. Sadly, I feel the same way.

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  37. I would like to see the engagement photographs from her previous wedding.

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    1. To compare and contrast.
      Her former BFF noted how absolutely besotted Meghan and her then producer husband seemed at the time; that marriage lasted 2 years.
      Everyone should be realistic about this one.

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    2. Ditto, Anon 3:52.

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    3. Ugh. I can’t even muster an eye roll:

      A - people generally do look happy at their weddings. (Yes, even the ones who get divorced two years later.)

      B - do you wonder this every time a divorcee gets remarried? Seems petty and spiteful to me.

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  38. What beautiful photos. They both look great. Wonderful photographer. However, I too have issues with a dress costing this amount. No matter how private they were meant to be, it was issued publicly. Some people will be struggling to put food on the table for Christmas and this just looks out of touch with reality. Yes, she is marring into the royal family but I do think that these dresses are best kept to those events behind closed doors or it can backfire. I also wish M would stop holding onto H's arm like she thinks he is going to run away. Just does not seem a natural pose for an engagement photo.

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    1. I'm glad you said that, KiwiNic, about her holding onto Harry's arm. It's constant and so possessive and insecure looking.

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    2. I agree RobinfromCA

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    3. Me three. And I agree with Robin's interpretation.

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    4. Really, Robin?!?

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    5. Robin she is holding onto Harry’s arm in only one of the three photos. In #1 she had her hand on his hand & in the 2nd she is touching his face. How 1/3 “constant”?!

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    6. Me four. Very distracting and annoying.

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    7. The photograph where she is holding onto his arm was not actually one of the released official pics people - it was intended to be personal.

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    8. Yep, really. Look at the photos and video from the engagement announcement day and when they got out of the car in Nottingham. Same thing both times.

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    9. You had no problem with the reserved Cambridges but you do have a problem with M&H's PDA. Well done! Anyway if it is too much for you, why taking the time to write down the same things so many times? I am baffled.

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    10. Whoa let’s please remember that everyone is entitled to their opinions. That Robin should be given the same respect as the commenters you do agree with. Discussion is fun!

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  39. Maybe they plan to offer the dress later on at a charity auction. Also the price of the dress may be 75k but that's not necessarily what she paid for it

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  40. There are truly no words to describe how GLOWING and HAPPY Harry looks. I'm so happy for them.

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  41. Megan Markle is NOT Sarah Ferguson, thankfully! She has character and integrity, which Ferguson never had.

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    1. I think it's far too early to say confidently that Meghan has the type of character and integrity that make for a successful representative of the British Royal Family. I've read both glowing and troubling comments from those who know her. Time will tell. I'm not confident, but I really do hope you're right.

      The royal family is nearing some fragile transition times with a very elderly sitting monarch and her also elderly son as the next in line. QE has provided much stability in her long reign and protected the institution during decades when most monarchies fell away or were diminished to a far greater extent. She provided this stability through the unsuccessful marriages and poor life choices of several of her children and their spouses. Reckless, self-centered choices from any royal, even those more junior and not really in line for the throne, will create PR issues for the institution and will not be helpful to ensuring stable transitions to Charles, William and ultimately sweet little George.

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  42. To everyone complaining about the cost of this dress: 1) It was probably a loaner, and 2) are you all forgetting that Kate's wedding dress cost $434,000?? And that was most definitely not a loaner. Not to mention the cost of all of Kate's bespoke McQueen and Packham gowns worn over the years. Beautiful, well-made fashion costs money. Just because some of us can't afford to wear it doesn't mean those who can shouldn't. Saying Meghan isn't relatable because she's wearing an expensive dress is like saying the Queen isn't relatable because she wears the crown jewels. They're ROYALTY! There isn't a lot they do that's going to be relatable to anyone. I for one think the photos are gorgeous, and most importantly showcase the couple's love for each other in their happy expressions.

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    1. 1/It wasn't a loaner, KP confirmed it had been purchased privately. The RF is not allowed to accept gifts.2/Kate dress was paid for by her parents. They also contributed to the reception costs. The exact amount was never known.
      3/ I agree beautiful clothing has a price. I just do not think engagement photos warranted it. A wedding dress is different and is usually the priciest dress a woman will ever buy.

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    2. 1/It wasn't a loaner, KP confirmed it had beRen purchased privately. The RF is not allowed to accept gifts.2/Kate dress was paid for by her parents. They also contributed to the reception costs. The exact amount was never known.
      3/ I agree beautiful clothing has a price. I just do not think engagement photos warranted it. A wedding dress is different and is usually the priciest dress a woman will ever buy.

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    3. Not a loaner. That's a no-no for royals. They have made it clear that they do not accept loans or freebies from anyone as they do not wish to be seen as being paid to sponsor any products or design.

      I don't believe the cost of Kate's wedding gown was ever given. There was speculation that it would cost between $350,000 and $450,000 but I don't think the actual price was ever revealed. I have no problem if Meghan wants to spend that much on a wedding gown (although her wedding will not be declared a holiday and be seen as a state event because she will not eventually be the queen consort) but this engagement photo dress is just too over the top expensive for someone who is trying to fit into the BRF, the British citizens, and do it all as an American. Our American attitude of "I can do whatever I want and too bad if you don't like it" isn't going to wash well over there. It's not even going well over here for Melania Trump who is very wealthy in her own right, her husband is extremely wealthy and not taking a salary for being president, and people are all over her all the time for the amount of money she spends on her clothing. Quite frankly, her husbands big mouth aside, I wish Kate would take some style tips from Melania because she always looks gorgeous. Her style reminds me of Princess Charlene of Monaco who is another impeccable dresser.

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    4. Browse through any wedding blog and you will see engagement photos featuring fancy, expensive dresses. Most shoots include a dressy look, as well as a casual look. This woman wore Dior for her engagement shoot! http://www.stylemepretty.com/2017/02/22/dior-couture-dress-paris-engagement/

      Here's another fancy-dress shoot: http://www.stylemepretty.com/2017/12/07/sweet-french-chateau-engagement-shoot/

      Arguments aside, my bottom line is: I'm not offended in the least. The dress is beautiful, Meghan is beautiful, and the couple look happy.

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    5. Royals get stuff all the time for free, all the time.🙄

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    6. Heather, the blog photos are beautiful, no argument, but it does come across as unnecessarily extravagant and self-indulgent. In the case of a private couple, it is no one's business. Not so with a member of the Royal Family and his future wife.

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    7. Sorry 6:26, but unless you can site specific items, who gave them, and proof the item was free your statement doesn't hold water. They get wedding gifts and sometimes they get a gift from another country when they visit but even that can be tricky if it's an extravagant gift. Sophie and Edward found that out when they accepted some expensive gifts when they visited Bahrain several years ago. Huge controversy.

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    8. Not quite Anon 6:26. The Palace has rules that say "members of the royal family should not accept gifts which would, or might appear to, place them under any obligation to the donor." I think that is pretty clear.

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    9. RF,

      You are constantly saying that what W & K due on many occasions should be "no one's business" but the same rules don't apply to M & H? Your bias is showing. 😒




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    10. If W&K presented the world with these engagement photos I would have the same opinion of all three.

      On the other hand if Harry goes hunting and Meghan has a weekend to herself after they're married, I won't be among those who think the sky is falling.

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    11. I’m really struggling to understand the point of view who think the British monarchy is expected to be subtle about its wealth and power or somehow “not extravagant.’ Can someone please explain?

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    12. So am I, anon 10:09. So am I. It is the old "Do as I say, not as I do" rationale and involves, I think, a dollop of hypocrisy. It is a little like the CEO of British Petroleum being the spokesperson for the Sierra Club. Somehow "subtle wealth" fits in there somewhere.
      I have seen wealth down-played and it doesn't look like the Royal Family. It is the cattle baron driving into town in an old Ford pick-up, dressed in boots and battered Stetson. The wives don't show up in designer originals for church Sunday morning. This isn't just something I have seen in the movies. An attitude of humility is not behind the lack of pretension, for the most part. It is a matter of survival. A conspicuous display of wealth will get a person ostracised in some circles. If you have a fancy education, you keep that to yourself, too. It isn't shabby chic-it is a way of life and an attitude. The difference is-some dress and live humbly because they have no choice. When royals do it, it just seems a little contrived to me. Plus, it is a lot easier if one has a choice.

      The Queen has reportedly said she would have been happy living in the country with her dogs and horses. Actually, at Windsor she is basically doing just that, if you overlook the castle and thoroughbreds. I think it possible the headscarf (in lieu of hair styling) and country togs are a welcomed respite from the formal, corseted attire she wears for her Queen duties. Sort of her version of yoga pants. I really don't see how that can possibly be seen as her idea of economising or lack of pretension
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      I think those of us who enjoy the sparkle and shine of the royal scene (I'm one) yet raise an outcry when a newbie royal emulates it-might consider what is really taking place . Besides, I'd rather see Meghan dress a little Hollywoodish than see a former underwear model turned princess show up in a midi dress with hair in a bun. It doesn't seem honest somehow and messes with perception. anon1

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  43. People need to calm down. Most couture pieces aren't actually sold for their retail value, except to the Middle East, where the majority of couture is shipped.

    Just remember W & K each have a cashmere $8,000 bathrobe with their initials sewn into the lining. Remember those? And, yes, we have seen the pictures.

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    1. I honestly don't see the connection between receiving expense bathrobes as a wedding present and *choosing* to wear a $75,000 gown for royal engagement photos which serve to introduce a bride-to-be to the world as a future royal partner.

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    2. An $8,000 bathrobe is much more of an extravagance than wearing a couture gown. The bathrobe is silly.

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    3. Again, gift vs. personal choice. Apples and oranges.

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    4. The bathrobe was not a gift.

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    5. 1:08 - Do not state something emphatically when you don't know what you're talking about. The robes were wedding gifts.

      https://parade.com/460902/roisinkelly/whats-embroidered-on-kate-middleton-and-prince-williams-11000-bathrobes/

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    6. Another report came out saying it was not a gift, it's actually a tradition for royal couples. I'll post the link.

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  44. The dress is great, but I think she could've worn something less expensive.. I don't care for the black and white, unless they did that intentionally? We can't see the 2nd outfit at all.. Yes, we get it that they are in love and can't keep their hands off each other!! Yay!!! Now please show the 2nd outfit?! PLEASE.

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  45. I don't care about the price of the dress.

    That is one sexy couple that looks so happy. One paper said that Harry looks like Christmas came 100 x to him this year. For sure.❤️❤️

    All the naysayers sound like wet blankets looking to complain about something. Hush.

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