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Kate Catch-Up: The Duchess's Past Three Engagements

Monday, March 5, 2018

Happy Monday All! I am so sorry that I dropped off the radar last week. I was sick and Kate's day in Sunderland was the last communique I could eek out before I crashed. Happily, everything is looking brighter on this end and Kate has two engagements this week, so I am jumping on here to update you all briefly on last week's fun things so we are caught up for tomorrow.

New Patronages! 


On Tuesday, the 27th of February, Kate was out and about on two related engagements. Her first stop was at the Royal College of Obstetricians and Gynecologists ("RCOG"), and the second was at the St. Thomas Hospital where she launched the Nursing Now campaign, an initiative to support and raise the profile of nurses worldwide. Earlier that morning it was announced that Kate was the new royal patron of RCOG as well as the Nursing Now campaign, so it was a big day! 


At the RCOG Kate learned about the health efforts that are ongoing and was formally and warmly welcomed by her new patronage:

She also received a certificate, according to Kensington Palace's Twitter feed. I am not sure what the certificate certificates:

At the Nursing Now campaign launch, Kate gave a short speech in which she mentioned her great-grandmother and grandmother who were both volunteer nurses.  I love that the Duchess is pursuing projects in which she obviously has an interest as well as these sorts of emotional connections! 
Let's talk fashion really quickly. The first picture I saw on Tuesday morning was a cropped photo and I won't deny I was horrified by the boxy shoulders and white piping. When I saw the next picture, a full length from the side (see above) I did a quick u-turn and thought it lovely. But, whiplash was the name of the day, and after reviewing more photos and video, I am decidedly not a fan.

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This is a bespoke Jenny Packham, which makes this miss even more disappointing. Generally when Kate has a bespoke piece commissioned it is a real hit, especially when it is from JP. But, from almost every angle this ensemble is too boxy, features odd tailoring, and that white piping...that white piping is so perplexing. Why? Plus, the fabric looked cheap and pulled in odd places.

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I love that Kate is continuing to wear her tanzanite jewelry suite more with her various blue ensembles, and its always fun to see the Muse clutch and her Georgia Jimmy Choos, but overall, this ensemble was a miss.

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Royal Foundation Forum 


On Wednesday, the 28th of February, Kate joined William, Harry, and Meghan Markle at the first ever Royal Foundation Forum. It was also Meghan Markle's first official engagement with William and Kate, so it was a hotly anticipated day!

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All the royals, and the royal-to-be, got a chance to share their thoughts on the work the Royal Foundation does, and they had an opportunity to express particular areas of interest. On at least three occasions it was highlighted that Heads Together was Kate's brainchild. It was clearly a concerted effort to make this point very clear and give her credit for a campaign that has been globally hailed as a massive success.

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You can watch the entire event here:



As usual William and Harry provided headline worthy banter by discussing some of the family tensions that crop up when determining how the four will focus their energies.



Kate chose to wear the SĂ©raphine maternity dress she wore in January for Heads Together. Below is a shot of her in January, and as you can see the fit is already on the snug side a month or say later. Baby Cambridge 3 is coming soon! :)

Heads Together
The princess was back in her Georgia Jimmy Choos, but wearing new earrings. The collective wisdom of the Kate community is that these earrings are likely vintage pieces that were gifted to then Princess Elizabeth by her parents.


For those wondering, Meghan wore a dress by American designer Jason Wu, but I don't have IDs on the rest of her ensemble. She looked professional and glowing. I am sure this is such an exciting time for her!

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Orla Kiely for a Snowy Visit to the NPG

On the evening of the 28th, Kate braved the thickly falling snow in London, to attend "Victorian Giants: The Birth of Art Photography" at the National Portrait Gallery.  

The National Portrait Gallery 
As the gallery's patron, Kate chose a number of the photos on display, in addition to writing the descriptions that accompany the pieces and a forward for the exhibit catalogue.  

Kate chose a dress by Orla Kiely, and just writing that gets me a little giddy with excitement. Maybe because Orla K is one of the early designers Kate debuted, back when she was a fresh new royal and we were high on life (I say that quasi-facetiously ;)), but it just delights me when she wears this Irish designer. How appropriate for March? ;) 

The National Portrait Gallery 
After a relatively long period of time passing with no Orla K, the is the second dress Kate has worn from the label this pregnancy. [The first was the pink dress when she danced with Paddington.]  This is the Margaret dress from an Orla Kiely capsule collection. 

The National Portrait Gallery 
This dress is definitely in the Erdem profile, though, right? Dark all around, rusty florals, a ruffle!! But, it's also super Orla Kiely, too, with the whimsical bodice and cute cuffs. I think Kate definitely chose it for its Victorian vibe, especially the high color and the velvet V of the bodice. Is it weird? Yeah, it's totally a weird dress, but I still love it anyway.



I love it because it's Orla K. I love it because it flatters Kate beautifully (talk about night and day from the custom JP!). I love it because she looks great. It's an unexpected win. I would never buy this if I saw it on the rack, but Kate just makes it go.


I know there is a growing ennui for her nude accessories, but I thought this dress was perfect paired with her Gianvito Rossi Praline pumps and Jimmy Choo Celeste clutch. It was a win!


Ok kids, that's the quick overview. Thank you for all the emails and messages of concern. I am so sorry I just dropped off the radar, but I just was on empty. I didn't mean to spark a panic, and I wouldn't quit the blog without a proper farewell. :) In any case, I am feeling much, much better. We are back to regular programming tomorrow!  

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  1. If you look at the details of Kate’s outfit at RCOG, you’ll see that it mimics the nurses’ uniforms.

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    1. Came down here to say this! I still think I agree with Jane about not being a fan, but I appreciate what KM was trying to do!

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    2. I love the white outfit on the woman accompanying Kate at the RCOG and would like it for myself! Kate looks very good but has got to be a bit worn out at 8 months with 2 little ones and walking about with those heels.

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    3. Yes anon 5:32, her quilted red heels? So beautiful and fun!!

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  2. Welcome back Jane. I do hope that you are feeling much better. I'm so excited that you loved Kate's OK as much as I did. It was so fun and whimsical - as well as being quite magical with the snowflakes falling all around. I would love this dress in my winter wardrobe. The accessories lifted the mood; but, I could just as easily see it teamed with some black boots. A win for me too!!

    P.S. I would love a closer look at the vintage earrings that Kate wore to the forum?

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    1. Seconded on the earrings! And/or a link to somewhere IDing them (I haven't had a chance to look myself).

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    2. Hi NatB I'm so pleased that you have commented again :) And so pleased that you are well Jane:) In my opinion the blue JP is a sartorial choice one step too far in dressing to suit the engagement. This looks like a nurse's maternity issue IMHO. But Catherine does look like a beautifully pregnant nurse! I'm so pleased to see the blue Seraphine dress, it's one of my favourite maternity dresses of Catherine's. I cannot make up my mind about the O K.I like it and then I don't. I think it's the ruffle that puts me off. Not a fan of a ruffle on most any dress. Keep strong Jane. You are missed when you are away.
      ~Mo

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    3. I looked on the website that has all of QEII's jewelry and the closest I could find that *might* be the same earrings is only a grainy black and white photo. Mystery indeed!

      Glad you're back NatB!

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  3. So glad you're feeling better! You have a lot on your plate, so good for you for knowing your limits and dropping the blogging while you prioritize your health.

    I could not agree with more with your take on the blue JP nursing outfit. It was such a miss that it went clear through 'Miss' territory and looped all the way back around to 'so bad it's good.' I prefer these strong misses to the in-between mumsy looks where I can't even work up an opinion!

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  4. Yay! Glad you are back....and glad we are in agreement about the blue Jenny Packham. Too “costumy”. But can we talk about the lovely outfit worn by the professor accompanying Kate!

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  5. So pleased that you are back on track Jane... I was getting twitchy waiting for your wonderful insightful posts. Who was the dude holding the umbrella in the snow photo? Very 'Hipster" looking!

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  6. I have also been laid low by the most brutal cold. Not the 'flu but most as bad. Glad you are feeling better.

    I agree that the JP dress is an interesting reflection of many UK nurse's uniforms. Where that is intentional or not I have no idea.

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  7. The Certificate certifies her as a patron according to other sources.

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  8. Personally I love the Jenny Peckham (would wear it myself), but each to their own. I did see someone say that it looks to be a nod towards the nurses' outfit. And when you see a photo of Kate's coat and a photo of nurses (English nurses) together, they are very similar.

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  9. Hi Jane - sorry to hear you were sick - hope you are on the mend now and thanks for the recap -
    so to the outfits - I actually quite liked the nursing inspired JP for her first engagement - the only thing that struck me as off was that the elasticated empire line significantly cheapened the look of the material which for a JP was a major no no - but overall, I thought it was a fresh, bright, (albeit slightly chilly given the temperatures in London last week) look. Love the idea of this patronage and Kate is so right to patronise organisations that clearly interest her and that she knows a thing or two about.

    Onto the Seraphine - it's a bit blah to be honest - I would have preferred her to recycle the Seraphine from the Norway tour, if she was on the recycle road but that's horses for courses. Thought Meghan looked absolutely stunning - adore the Jason Wu dress. Can't wait to see more of the dynamic between the foursome as the months go on. She will be a major asset to them (Meghan).

    The Orla Kiely - oh dear Kate - Look I am Irish too and by rights I should be leaping with excitement to see her dressed in one of our own, but it's just so ageing and dowdy a fire cry from the swing skirted fresh and young Orla Kielys of 2011 and 2012. It's all too venturing into Erdem territory for my liking with the heavy florals, the hint of a dust ruffle, the conservative high collar... I get the theme of the dress, matching the exhibit (which sounds absolutely fascinating by the way), but I cannot get behind this outfit - a clear miss!

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    1. I agree on the empire elastic on the JP dress! Looked very cheap and unfinished. I too loved the coat.

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  10. With the OK I do not like that K's shows half cut trhrough right under the bust. The model's is better cut concering the pattern.

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  11. I completely agree about the blue bespoke coat with white piping, not a fan. I think that any print is hard to wear successfully, especially when being photographed and critiqued, but with a changing figure, the challenge becomes daunting. I have not been fond of any of the print ensembles, just too distracting and not flattering.
    However, Kate is glowing and her beauty outshines everything.

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  12. I agree with Jane about the bespoke JP. Its design isn't very flattering and I usually like the cut of JP designs on Kate. I see it may be a "nod" to nurses' uniforms but other than the strong blue color I don't care for it. I also think it carries symbolic dressing a bit too far. And if I were a nurse (or another kind of professional identified by a particular uniform), I'm not sure I'd find that kind of imitation dressing by the patron flattering. It's sort of like playing "nurse for a day."
    Still, a good event for Kate to do.

    The Orla is too busy for my taste...could have been Erdem-- not my favorite either. I'd like it better I think either 1. without the hemline dust ruffle or 2. with a lower neckline although I realize it was likely supposed to be a "nod" to Victorian styles shown in the exhibit. I'm on the fence about the nude accessories. The color goes nicely with the dress pattern but to me the pinkish shoes look out of place on a snowy winter evening.

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  13. First off, so glad you are feeling better! Your posts were definitely missed, and I am sorry that you were ill. Now to the fashion... I am with you, Jane, on your assessments. Personally, except for the JP when she arrived in Canada, I have never much cared for JP for her daytime wear. The color is lovely (I am going to call it Kate Middie Blue as she wears it so often), but the piping is odd. It just looks like it accentuates her shape in all the wrong places. Hmm. Let's put pocket detailing right underneath your boobs. The Seraphine dress- appropriate and fits well- same Kate Middie Blue- yawn. But I do love the Orla Kiely. It looked stunning in the pictures. Next to the blues, she was a standout in this piece and I do love the accessories too- it kept it from being boring. Blue and Lace, and Floral prints seem to be a Kate signature style. Here's hoping she ends her pregnancy on a fashion high. I do hope we see her on St Patrick's Day ( if we do, she'll probably repeat the brown Catherine Walker she wore while pregnant with Charlotte). The Scandinavian tour brought out some needed newness, but I don't mind her repeating her previous pregnancy wardrobe. She looks great, and I can't wait until Baby Cambridge comes!

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  14. Meghan Markle specifically mentioned the Time's Up and Me Too movements in her remarks. I don't believe that she would be allowed to specifically mention the movements, yet Kate wouldn't be allowed to wear a black dress, something she has done many times in the past (or even, as she did at a past Baftas, wear a black floral dress). I don't think proximity to the crown played a part, either, given Meghan's explicit mention and support of the movements and Camilla's support of other causes that are inextricably linked to the oppression of women, such as human trafficking. It's clear to me that Kate chose not to wear black to the Baftas, whatever the reason. It could be because she couldn't find a dress she liked in black on such short notice. Or maybe she didn't want to become a headline. If that was the case, it spectacularly backfired.

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    1. Meghan's mention of Me too and Time's up was very unfortunate. The other 3 were very careful and did not mention any organisation or charity by name except those of the royal foundation. Meghan definitely put her foot wrong there. And what was the point? She could have simply expressed her concern for women. No need to suggest she only thinks about women in Hollywood. When she spoke, it seems to me there was a tension, IMO, the other 3 didn't except her to say that. IMO she has a lot to learn. And her I know everything attitude is not going to help.

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    2. I agree with this assessment.

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    3. Whether or not you think Meghan made a mistake, the fact remains that she still was allowed to bring it up. Based on what I've seen and read about the Royal Family, there are very strict protocols in place and lots of training and preparation for those new to the family. If Meghan was not supposed to mention Times Up or Me Too, especially considering the headlines after the Baftas, I think the Royal Family would make that very clear to her. Meghan's connection to Hollywood would be an even bigger reason for her to be instructed not to bring it up. So the fact that she did bring it up leads me to believe that it was allowed.

      Finally, a point of clarification. Time Up doesn't only concern women in Hollywood. It's actually a legal fund set up to give victims of harassment and injustice in the workplace access to the legal system, among other goals. Rather than rely on media reports about the organization, take a look at the organization's own words. https://www.timesupnow.com/#ourmission-anchor

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    4. As an American, the prohibition against political speech for the British royals confuses me. First, I thought the prohibition technically applied only to the ruling monarch, not to everyone in the family (although I can see family members would want to avoid putting the Queen in an awkward position.) Second, even if political speech is banned for all, why would MeToo and Time's Up be considered political?

      I looked up the definition of "political" & in addition to mentions of activities related to an identified political party I found things like relating to the running of a government or to relationships between governments of different countries. None of those definitions relates to those movements. So I don't see why MM's mention of them would be at all problematic. Will's speeches about conservation of exotic animals in African nations are apparently just fine so I guess that's considered "apolitical" speech? I support conservation and his efforts but clearly conservation can't happen without government action in those nations. The issue of trying to halt ivory trade also involved government actions and cooperation between governments. So it's OK to talk about treatment of animals and to overtly support particular  government interventions to benefit them but not OK to talk about treatment of women in the workplace?

      Even if workplace abuse occurred only in Hollywood or only in the movie industry (clearly not the case nor does Time's Up restrict itself to Hollywood) movies are produced and seen outside of LA. So it's hardly a "local" issue nor is it a matter of speaking out against human rights abuses by a particular repressive government.



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    5. Lizzie, I had no idea that the prohibition against political speech only applied to the RULING monarch. Explains so much.

      MM is very outspoken so these issues will continue to be represented. I guess Kate is using her platform for children and mental health.

      Everyone is different.

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    6. SO, she said it, therefore "she was allowed to bring it up"--if a royal does/says something, then that indicates the RF/HM approve? This will be welcome news to, say, those royals who wear swastikas to parties or Blackamoor brooches to royal luncheons
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      It is quite possible that she ad-libbed--that it was not scripted. At any rate, she absolutely did not support the movements individually, but mentioned them briefly only as an example of the current climate concerning women's causes. anon1

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    7. As another American I find the BRF not speaking about politics really refreshing. I am so sick of hearing about politics in every. single. thing. I'm thinking a good share of American's feel the same way with the Oscars losing 16% viewership over last year. Me Too and Times Up have become political because Hollywood and the politicians have made it so. It is a huge disservice to those who have actually been abused. It's also insulting that the entertainment industry thinks we can't decide for ourselves that abuse is wrong unless they tell us to. If MM brings too much Hollywood into the BRF my interest will wain quickly. I completely support Kate's decision to not play the politically correct card at the BAFTAs. Wearing a certain color doesn't put your money where your mouth is. It's just self-serving publicity.

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    8. lizzie-I don't think the problem is the stated goals so much as the fact that it is a new off-shoot of the women's lib movement and no one really knows where it is going at this point. BRF members have found ways to support a number of worthy issues whose purposes are known from observation over time or in which the royal has been involved from the start. William has been closely working with various employers to improve mental health in the workplace, for example. To combat bullying---and if sexual harassment isn't bullying, I don't know what is.Since he has been involved in the formation of these efforts he is privy to their methods and goals.

      I understand TimesUp movement intends to bring about a shift in the power structure, primarily in Hollywood. If this is true, I think that leans a little in the political direction, whether the sentiments are worthy or not. One political party wishes to provide universal healthcare and allow children of immigrants to remain in the US. Worthy goals that have been corrupted into political issues.
      And as I am fond of saying, "Time will tell.".. where TimesUp is headed.anon1

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    9. Do you really think Kate was not permitted to wear a black dress? I imagine that would be her choice, but maybe not.

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    10. For sure Kate received advice on what would be appropriate to wear to that event. Given the tempest in a teapot about her dress I find it peculiar that Meghan would make a point of specifically referencing that movement. Was she trying to be supportive .. or something else?

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    11. I agree that to a great extent the MeToo and Time's Up movements have their origins in Hollywood (obviously because of Weinstein) But in the American South, the Civil Rights movement to a great extent had its origins in churches. That didn't make the latter a religion-only movement any more than the origins of the former make them Hollywood-only movements. I see Anon 1's point about not knowing where the future may lie for those initiatives. But I really don't see mentioning them in passing as a big deal at all especially in view of mental health issues. (I really do see your point Anon 1 but your phrase "off shoot of the women's lib movement" made me laugh. As someone old enough to remember bra-burning I didn't know there was still such a thing as "women's lib".... isn't the idea of M/F equality settled in most western cultures? Including in the UK?) And I'm still confused about what is considered political for the royals *by the public.*

      I think whatever Kate wanted to wear to the BAFTAs was fine. I doubt it would have been such a big deal either way if Kate wasn't known for her symbolic dressing. Hence the discussion of the supposedly symbolic emeralds and black ribbon along with mentions of "protocol" against black non-mourning clothing suddenly constraining her clothing options.

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    12. Is it possible that a conservative Kate who likely supports/prefers a patriarch society is simply not comfortable supporting a movement that seeks to undermine the patriarch system she values? That doesn't mean she supports abuse of patriarch power, but she simply cannot support a movement that opposes her values?

      I realize that this is difficult for many to accept, but Kate has never given anyone any reason to believe that she is a feminist. I think it's safe to say that she's never pretended to be anything she's not. But, unlike Meghan, she prefers to keep her thoughts private, and this allows us to project our views onto her.

      Over the year's Kate has proven herself to be a very strong women who seek to remain true to herself even in the face of great criticism. Theses actions, unfortunately, may make her look arrogant to some and her actions may appear to be done for the sake of being defiant. IMHO, Kate chose to show support for the abuse victims by wearing the emeralds, but she's not on board with the movement itself so she chose to not wear black.

      If the above assumptions are correct, then I agree with those who say that she should've chosen to stay home. Her showing up to the event and through her sartorial choices appear to "advertise" her non-support of the movement, had a very demoralizing effect on those who have found strength in the support of the brave women who decided to put their careers on the line to put their powers behind this movement.

      Kate is aware that she is a public figure, no longer a private person. Her position comes with great power and influence. And as the cliche goes, great power comes with great responsibility. If she chooses to not put her power behind the movement, she should do the responsible thing to not use her power to undermine it by showing up advertising her lack of support.

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    13. I rather liked Meghan's comments. I admire her self confidence & articulate poise.

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    14. fabulous, I don't think the fact that she didn't wear black undermined the movement. It simply put her above the fray. It was a short lived movement anyway, it didn't last a few weeks and reach the Oscars, did it? Perhaps because wearing a color or not doesn't really help a cause.

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    15. Your making lots of assumptions. When has Kate ever done anything to give the impression she supports a patriarch society?

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    16. Fabulous, I think it's more about not dragging the RF into "bandwagon headlines" and has nothing to do with her not supporting the core issue.

      Regarding Meghan's comments, well, I too go along with them being unfortunate. I believe she was briefed on what to expect and then adlibbed. And I'm not in the camp of royal followers who believe this reflects her confidence as a woman. The Forum had to do with the efforts of her husband to be and his brother and sister-in-law. This would have been an ideal time to express her pride in Harry's work and finish up by saying she is anxious to get involved and represent the BRF to the best of her ability. Instead, she turned it into a me moment and it appeared to make the other three uncomfortable. And forgive me for being blunt here, but I believe Harry is in over his head.

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    17. I agree RF. I got the same impression of the forum. There were a lot of pats on the back, but Meghan went further and took her praise in her own hands...not that she needed to.

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    18. I agree RF. I had the same impression of the forum. There were a lot of pats in the back,but Meghan went further and took her praise in her own hands. Not that she needed to.

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    19. Royalfan..quite possibly an ad-lib.

      One quality I have always admired about Kate is her basic humility and reluctance to shine the light on herself. Some read that behavior as shyness, in-eptness, or unwillingness. I think her demeanor represents basic humility. I think her use of symbolic attire is also an effort to highlight the organisation or country she is visiting, rather than herself. I think that, generally, one need not call attention to one's own virtues and good deeds; rather, in time, they will shine for themselves and be recognised. Sometimes the wait is long and for some historical figures it happens only after death, when trivial concerns seem to fade away in retrospect.
      I feel Catherine is finally coming into her own and becoming recognised for the asset she is. As I mentioned above, she has blossomed in some ways; however, I feel that she is also finally being credited with what she has been doing all along.
      I'll also add that the sometimes fervid elevation of Meghan by some media figures and fans is in part a way for some (who have been rather unkind to Kate) to cloud Kate's emergence and in some way prove that---"Kate isn't really that great after all...here's someone better." Well, really--just new and different and a star in her own right.

      I also truly feel that the habit of self-promotion Meghan has practiced for years, trying to make her way in her field as a biracial woman, is a difficult habit to overcome. I think there is a certain defensiveness in her self-promotion. Understandably.
      I agree, in part, and Harry saw from his first meeting, reportedly, that she would give him a run for his money. ( Metaphorically speaking ;+) ). He had to get his game on. Sometimes Harry comes across as the rebel younger brother but I think he has greatly matured the past few years. I think the preparation and planning for Diana's anniversary became a watershed time for him. I believe he has expressed this. He has been all over the place--literally-organizing, promoting, and attending to various causes. Ultimately, HM is also Harry's granny and mentor and Harry is nobody's fool. I hope and believe he will emerge from his romantic haze and be able to evaluate how best to work and grow with Meghan--hopefully, before the wedding. ;+) Actually, I get hints that this process has already begun. No more clingy hand-holding. I don't think there will be anymore ad-libs, either. (if that is what that remark was-I can't imagine that it was scripted. Was her speech distributed beforehand? That would answer that question.) anon1

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    20. First, I'm glad I'm not alone here. I realize my opinions can be blunt lol. So thank you ladies.

      Anon1, I completely agree with your assessment of Kate. What some people see as her weaknesses, I actually see as long-term strengths. Slow and steady does win the race and I think this has become clear within the last year or so.

      Regarding no more ad-libbing, well, I do wonder. I'm not sure if Meghan is fully aware of what she is signing on to. Equally, I wonder how blunt Harry has been on this subject. Let's face reality here, he cannot spend the rest of his life making it all better; this is a two-way street and both of them will be required to accommodate the other in the years ahead. Although, in a Royal marriage it may not always be completely equal. Interesting Royal watching ahead Imo.

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    21. Lizzie@ 06:34: re Women's Lib being in the past-
      Paraphrase: Without Women the World could Not Exist-the current slogan.
      Well....I have been watching coverage on BBC of the current Spanish Women's strike (and thinking of my dear friend in Spain, who is likely marching, at least in spirit)

      It all looks as if the spirit of Women's movements past has come back to haunt us into action. (What ever happened to the ERA?). In Spain! First the loosening of the Arab restrictions on attire and then "allowing" women to drive. What's Next?
      Women's Lib never died in the hearts of many. The embers were smoldering, waiting to be fanned into flame. I don't think this current US/Hollywood- directed iteration was the beginning of the current blaze, however. I think it began as part of a political issue in 2016--which threatens to re-ignite. (ok, lizzie. my favorite fire analogy is running a bit thin) .
      The BRF needs to stay clear of blatant support of this particular politically-charged off-shoot of the Women's movement and confine itself to continuing its quiet but steady support of women's concerns and needs--some of which are basically issues common to all humans deprived of power and dignity in some way. anon1

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    22. Meghan turned it into a "Me me" moment.

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    23. I agree Anon 1 there is more to do re: women's rights. But I haven't heard the term "women's lib" to describe the work for decades! And the term does remind me of bra-burning, consciousness-raising, and the 1970s TV show "Maude." :)

      I just don't find MM's mention of the movements odd especially given she has worked in Hollywood and/or film for years (not that Time's Up is concerned only with that industry.) If she continues to bring it up I might feel differently. It does seem to me though the tendency of the younger royals to do "interviews" may lead to problems. My belief has nothing to do with MM. (And to expect her to wipe away her past life and experiences simply because she's marrying Harry seems the height of "polite society" female oppression in 2018.) I think both Will & Harry have said pretty unfortunate things in interview settings in the past. And many of those things concerned the monarchy directly. (Part-time King? Spreading magic?) Laying off the interviews might be a good idea for all of them!

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    24. I have read comments calling her MeAgain. She should be careful (and Harry should advise her), because that kind of first impression is difficult to rub of.

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    25. lizzie--enjoyed your comments.
      I don't think it is reasonable to expect BRF spouses to give up their past completely-only those aspects in direct conflict with the current customary ways of doing things. There are reasons for them, some rational and some probably of the "it's always been done that way" variety. The latter types could stand a second look. The apolitical stance is of the former variety and is constitutional for the monarch. You are correct that the popular definition of "political" as it pertains to the British monarchy can be as fuzzy as, say, the meaning of "full-time royal." However, critics of Charles's involvement seem to understand the meaning of political in the monarchy context--apparently direct attempts to influence decisions concerning governmental policy or any appearance of doing so. A movement or topic can be politically motivated but not necessarily of the monarch-proscribed type. I think it is a mistake to consider those two movements as coming under the constitutional meaning of political; but they still have the taint of hopping on the "bandstand ," as royalfan says, that makes it probably an unwise association for a BRF member. Those sorts of grassroots movements in the age of instant rumor via the internet have a tendency to dissolve into contention and in-fighting--which seems to already be happening with TimesUp.

      I expressed the opinion that self-promotion can become a necessary habit-that can be hard to break, especially in highly competitive fields. I really don't think she is self-centered, judging by reports of some family and acquaintances. I'm still not clear on the details of exactly when and under what circumstances Harry and Meghan first got together-(Meghan's Vogue--Vanity Fair?- interview and the engagement interview further blew smoke on that question) There is some evidence that it could have been in 2015-(stories he was dating look-alike Pippa, which he vigorously denied to the point of a lawsuit against a news outlet in Nov.Dec 2015, for example)--which would mean that their relationship was not as precipitous as thought. I mention this because it seems her outreach/influential friends and charity work seemed to take an uptick in 2015. So I understand some of the niggling feeling that all is not as it seems.

      I have digressed. Ha! In summary: I give Meghan the benefit of the doubt-she has bitten off a huge chunk -we must give her time to chew, lest she choke on it. :+) and I agree with royalfan-she may not have understood the reality of her choice, but then who really has, when marrying into the Windsors? The lucky spouses stay well apart from the spot-light.

      I agree with lizzie-the younger set need to watch what they say and reach a compromise between the NO (unscripted) personal interviews with the press that is HM custom and the DOE and Charles's sometimes inappropriate remarks. I think William and Harry are well-aware of the dis-connect between the monarch and the rest of us and some of their questionable remarks reflect this. I think they are trying as hard to relate to us as they are wanting us to relate to them. William tries to be somewhat folksie and humorous at times and Harry sometimes borders on TMI.
      If preventing these comments means muzzling them, I think I'd prefer a few bloopers here and there. They certainly are made well-aware of their mistakes by media, internet commenters, and likely HM and a few other Senior Royals. anon1

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  15. So happy to know you're feeling better and that you're back again, Jane! Onward and upward as Kate keeps up the pace she's set for appearances this year!

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  16. *sigh* I love the JP ensemble especially cause i know it's an homage to nurses (my sister is a nurse). The white with the blue is so cute. I love it. She really knocked it out the park last week. I always hate the nude pumps but she kilt it with the Orla Kiely (Which i love too) i love those ruffles. For the Forum, I feel like she threw this Seraphine dress on. I hate it honestly. Maybe she didn't want to outshine Meghan, who unfortunately is a grown woman and Harry is making sure they do their own thing.

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    1. The JP is also similar to the doctoral hoods the RCOG were wearing on the stage. There are those who like to stand apart and lecture and others, like Kate, who prefer to become one with the group, at least for the moment. I've had teachers and professors of each type and I found I listened more closely the more the speaker tried to relate to the students.

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  17. SierrafromMontanaMarch 6, 2018 at 3:42 PM

    Welcome back Jane! I fully enjoyed the panel - how often do you get to hear the royals and in a somewhat informal conversation. No scripts! I enjoyed all of Kate's outfits, 3rd time around and she seems much more comfortable with her baby bump. Jane - do you have any ideas for posts while we have the Great Kate Wait?

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  18. Have decided to bypass my opinion re what Kate wore on these three engagements; she is, after all, quite well along in her third pregnancy...it seems civilized to go gently.

    Re the two newest patronages Kate has picked up, well and good. Either one, RCOG or Nursing Now, could, one day, when she's ready, lead to sponsoring a charity or movement having to do with hyperemesis gravidarum, a condition which routinely killed expectant mothers and their unborn babies, worldwide, until WW1--possibly WW2--and the advent of intravenous delivery of fluids/nutrients/medication. But I wonder if it's reached Third World countries or if the mortality rate is still in effect there. (And while she's at it, she might want to champion better delivery of treatmenti in the UK as well.)

    Looking forward to Kate's engagement today and tomorrow.

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  19. Glad you're feeling better Jane! Thanks for this lovely post!
    I didn't really jive with any of the ensembles (though I did warm to the Kelley because I love that print). Kate looks glowing... and tired. I hope they stop conceiving after baby #3, if only because maternity wear bores me so;)

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  20. Adrienne FriederichMarch 7, 2018 at 10:14 PM

    Jane, so good to have you back and feeling better. I agree with your opinions, nice job!

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